This board told me my very prominent cheekbones were a strictly masculine feature and made me a hon, and that I would need a Zygoma Reduction or else I wouldn't ever make it.But then I met with FFS plastic surgery medical expert people and they all told me to never change my cheekbones. They said they were already a feminine feature, and that they wish they could give other women cheekbones like minewho do I believe? how do I reconcile this? The people of this board and /passgen/ wouldn't lie to me. But I'm literally willing to give the surgeons extra money to get rid of my cheekbones and they're telling me they won't do it. How does that make any sense?pic semirel, she's some rando from internet who popped up when i searched "big cheekbones"
>>43482529My surgeon said that my jaw was feminine but I told him to fuck himself he better shave it into a nice V shape (facialteam btw)So it's your choice, fuck the surgeons
>>43482529Passgen is only good at gauging white trans women passing
>>43482543the recent one i talked to does really good work and i want him to do my foreheadbut he was adamant about not touching my cheekbones, he said i would be stupid to do soi feel like if i make him do something he doesn't think is necessary he'll just dismiss me as a patient>>43482547i am a white trans woman though
>>43482554Well, what do your cheekbones look like?
>>43482554I think listen to your surgeon
>>43482566thats a difficult question to answer in textbut i can tryi guess if you measure corner of the bottom jaw to the other corner as 100%, the cheekbone to cheekbone horizontal measurement is like 140%?40% wider at the cheekbones than the corners of the jaw?
>>43482543too much of a V shape is clocky
>>43482912yeah but clocky in a hot way tho
>>43482912Really? Just seems Korean
>>43483110That is not a V jawShe didn't pass like at all
>>43482554Listen to your surgeon, many surgeons are based chaserchads at some level and know what they like/dislike about a face
never touch cheekbones
>>43485590Zygoma reduction helped sebbie a lot tho
>>43485642 no it did not omg
>>43485666I feel like everyone considered her face masculine in the before because of her cheekbones thoughAnd now her face is rounder and feminineWhy didn't work about it?Also trips seen and checked
>>43485642Woman to pooner transformation
>>43485675i can't answer without being mean to someone who got botched. just never touch your cheekbones
>>43485707I think you're just jealousPost your face
>>43485707>PoonerIsn't looking AFAB a good goal for surgeries?
>>43482529If your surgeon isn’t going to do what you want then get another one. It’s YOUR face, you and everyone else are going to be seeing it every day.The job of the surgeon is literally to perform the patient’s wishes. That’s why you so many people that look like the pic you posted, because that’s what they wanted and asked for in spite of all good judgment.And they’re happy. You deserve that too.
>>43489552im getting mixed signalsit seems like you're telling me it's a genuinely good idea to push for what I think I want and ignore the surgeon's adviceBut then it appears you're telling me I'll get bogged by doing that, and should get boggedIs one portion of your post sarcastic? I'm having difficulty telling
>>43482547Lol no its not, passgen should just be renamed to chudgen honestly, its where bitter hons go to try and spread bitterness
>>43489601I’m trying to tell you to push for what you want but I can’t make a point for shit. No sarcasm was intended.
>>43485642unfortunately narrowing zygos will make her age really badly even though it looks more fem now
>>43487638The goal for ffs should be to look as beautiful as possible imo. If you dont pass before ffs you wont pass after but pretty privilege is enough to make up for it in many ways.
fuck me, why can't ffs surgeons just shatter the face and rebuild it from scratchlike fuck does he mean when he says my face already passes and 2/3 of it doesn't need changesi see a man in the mirror and i just get pity passing from everyone out in public. im so tired of it>>43489631i wish i could afford the big names like mardi or db or keo who would totally demolish and reassemble my face and do whatever i ask them to do
>>43489699you're annoyingly wrong. im in my 30s and asexual, i don't give a shit about being beautiful. attractiveness doesn't matter to me. i don't want to be attractive, i don't want preferential treatment from freaks who want to fuck mei literally only want to pass as a woman. passing as an ugly woman would be a 100% successful outcome for me. any type of woman is good enough for me
>>43489734Its not about being sexually attractive its about being associated with positive things vs negative things and being pretty enough to override transphobia to get the same opportunities as any mediocre cis person. If you're just doing it for yourself and your aesexual and never leave the house then yes you unironically would be better off just getting therapy and 'accepting yourself'.
>>43489827i leave the house but likeDont you understand there's a middle ground between "get plastic surgery and aim for a model face to look pretty enough to be 'positive'" (I still don't really know what that means) and "get surgery to make your browbone fit within standard female parameters?" there is a lot of space between those two already
>>43489827trvke
>>43489841Yes you're right but the priority of plastic surgery should always be making someone more attractive and appealing to look at. ffs and other surgeries are too limited to actually make someone unclockable, it is what it is.
>>43490082This feels like lookism or looksmaxxing or whatever
how over is 5.75 bizygomatic should i kms
>>434910625.75 what unit