Current medical consensus claims transition is the only treatment for dysphoria, and that leaves me with a single question. What for?>Take hrtWhat for?>Voice train?What for?>Change your name and pronounsWhat for?>Get FFS and SRSWhat for?Even if I did everything I've listed, I will still be the same person. I will still never be a woman. I will always know of what lies underneath. I will always bear guilt for doing any of this. If I'm unable to appreciate what I have now, how will I suddenly be able to appreciate the opposite?
because their goal is to castrate you, not to heal you or cure youthey see you as a threat, castration neutralizes the threateverything else is lies being fed to the gullible
The idea is that living as a hormone-man or a transwoman is still better than doing nothing.Being a transwoman isn't the same but has helped many males become estrogen males and with more cues so people use "she" and "her" on them, creating a more enjoyable life.
>how will I suddenly be able to appreciate the oppositei wouldnt imagine that all of these steps happen instantaneously. your concept of self would likely develop in turn.
>>43483305being on hrt just feels a bit better idkThe other stuff sounds like a humiliation ritual to me tho
>>43483323Even if my concept of self will grow and change, it will never be a self which would belong to a womanI feel like every step I take will only ever make me more painfully aware of the aforementioned fact
>>43483342>being on hrt just feels a bit better idk I agree, but still. What for? Why does it feeling "better" matter?
>>43483305you answered your own question. you transition to reduce and relieve dysphoria. i did all of those things (with the exception of srs, but someday), and i am in less pain now, than i was before. my dysphoria, and the symptoms of it, are diminished. not gone completely, of course, but i am now able to life my live, in a way i couldn't before. dysphoria is debilitating, and without it's weight crushing me every single day, i can do more than just endure and survive it, i can live a life, the same life that cis people have. it's okay <3
>>43483305Maybe you’ll still feel that way but at least I’ll treat you like a woman.
skill issue smdh tbqh fampai
speak for yourself i got my body tea and my face pretty and my voice fixed and now im just a woman. i am the same person but a version of me that is much better in every respect. what lies beneath is just me lol i just am a woman idk what to tell you
>>43483986you also type like a dumb bitch copying a faggot copying a nigger so gz on soulpassing
>>43484012i think you spend too much time being upset online
>>43483986OP (and maybe most of the world) doesn’t realize that being a woman is a gender ROLE, not a biological definition. If you wear a dress, cook & clean- you’re my fucking woman. Give a fuck what the hardware downstairs is.Another example: female soldiers are pretty much men because they fill a historically male role. Yes we respect them as “women” but we don’t TREAT them as women. In the military you never refer to a female officer as “ma’am”. You say “sir” because that’s what’s equalizing in THAT context.
>>43484012Wow the angst is real
>>43484032i agree but also kind of get what OP is eluding to in that i think living that role also then does reflect back on something internal. at least it did for me. i can imagine if you rly leaned into repping and the mindset that this board promotes it is genuinely difficult to imagine yourself as a woman, because instead of that internal self reflecting your experiences as a woman its reflecting the experiences of a self loathing repper. it is sad how many people like OP hold themselves back and how many of their anxieties would be fixed if she just got over herself and started showing herself kindness instead
>>43484032also ngl i glossed over some of your post and didn't recognise that you said >If you wear a dress, cook & clean- you’re my fucking woman.which is a somewhat cavemanish way to end up trans accepting lol so gg ig
>>43483504as u get older the “body dysphoria” aspect gets harder and harder to cope with
>>43483986Congrats, and I'm happy you're doing better. Still, my question remains. What for? As in, to what end? You're a woman now, both internally and externally, and what for?
>>43483305>what for?the alleviation of dysphoria that i might live an approximately normal life
>>43484086what do you mean what for? i was not a man before, i was a repper. i didn't go 'to the opposite' i just chose to stop making myself smaller and more miserable. i could not fathom living any other way than as a womanif i had to give other more practical reasons i have tits that bounce when i walk and i get to enjoy things i like without being judged for it and i'm pretty af now. so those are all good things too
>>43484086it made her happy it makes people happy and not wanna kill themselves whats so complicated or philosophical here LOL. if you think it wouldn't make you happy that's you
>>43484123I guess my issue is not really understanding what the point of this happiness is, and also why something so arbitrary is actually capable of making us happy. I kinda hate that I like what hrt is doing to me
>>43483305>Current medical consensusNo such thing.
>>43483314yup exactly, everything going according t9 the plan. autists now have been castrated, so the number of nooticers have been halved.>>43483986hahaha, yeah we definitely believe you. right
>>43484148why did you not respond to me after asking me a question? see >>43484112> what the point of this happinessto be happy?? lmao what do you mean?i was dysphoric and miserable and now i am not. being a woman passively improves my mental health. >why something so arbitrary is actually capable of making us happy.it is not arbitrary to me at all>I kinda hate that I like what hrt is doing to mei have always loved how hrt effects me, the idea of not taking hrt feels like something unfathomably awful to imagine
>>43484168.hahaha, yeah we definitely believe you. righti don't need you to believe me and in fact the more people who believe that trans women are weird ugly freaks the better as it makes it easier to blend in if you're bad af
>>43484179i just know by the way you talk that you are the biggest clocky mid tranny everyou probably had chasers hit on you, so now your ego is out of the place + it didn't help that you are an autistic male with agp
>>43484148ok if happiness and comfort and safer living is arbitrary go be homeless
>>43484200im kidding obviously but just let yourself be happy about it if you are it's not that deep the meaning doesn't have to hit you today or tomorrow if there is one at all
>>43484112>i could not fathom living any other way than as a woman How are you able to fathom living in any way?
>>43484171>to be happy?? lmao what do you mean? Doesn't happiness feel like a shackle? Doesn't the fact that we can't choose what makes us happy feel claustrophobic to you?>it is not arbitrary to me at all Why wouldn't it be. There's no reason why you're a woman outside of being one, so it can't be anything but arbitrary, can it?
>>43484198you're right my ego is crazy but its hard to be humble when you're that girl>>43484220i think you've lost me diva, you are clearly just depressed or something>>43484261>Doesn't the fact that we can't choose what makes us happy feel claustrophobic to you?i didn't choose though, if i had a choice i'd have chose to just be happy as a man and saved a lot of money and time and anguish>so it can't be anything but arbitrary, can it?i am a woman because i am a woman i agree, it is just who i am ig. but to me transition was a profound process of self acceptance and growth. i am happy because i choose not to be stagnant and repressed. the same reason anyone is happy - i worked towards a life that was built on happiness. it was hard work rather than some random choice or something that just 'is'
>>43484294>i am a womanliterally no one believes that lmao i guess it's fine if you live in your delusional world, but most people want to live in real life. you are a sexist xy biological male
>>43484353whatever you say diva
>>43483305There is only a forced consensus of perverted chaser doctors and woketards. Everyone else realizes gender affirming care is new age pseudomedicine.
>>43483305Why can't you appreciate what you have now? Why do you have to be a woman?
>it measurably improved your life? but what for??? >listen up pal: NOTHING hecking matters in this worthless lofe>we are all just... le dust!
>>43484503uhm genuine question but where does your philosophy come from? like uhm I understand not wanting to be nihilist, but how do you define good actions without falling into selfishness?>measurably improved your lifelike I feel that with all the industry and labor that goes into hormone production just to be something that improves the life of certain types of people... it seems odd? like snapping a rat in a trap then lifting the lever and being like, "well now his dead carcass's fur won't be smushed :)"
>>43484294>just depressed or something It's not really about that. I just find the mere fact that we exist and live as what we are incomprehensible. It's even weird to me that I'm apparently both conscious and at the mercy of my own existence>i didn't choose thoughThat's exactly what I'm talking about. You didn't choose this. Can you, with certainty, say that there is anything you are able to willfully choose?
>>43483305The current medical consensus is laughing all the way to the bank, they figured out how to turn faggots into cash cows. A brand new billion dollar industry to turn the mentally disturbed into a simulacrum of the opposite sex. What for indeed.
>>43484503>mfw I'm a dusthon for living a meaningful life
>>43483305What is underneath? Like there is no underneath. You just are. Take your pills, Alice!
>>43485466There's only a man underneath it all. No matter what, I will always only ever be a man
>>43484483That's exactly what I'm wondering too
