Its probably not super normal to be a guy and wish I was someone's girlfriend huh?
AGP
>>43489312it’s actually incredibly normal in 2026
>>43489359Well here is the thing right im an average man so it is not normal!
it's ok for men to date other men as men
Sure I always wanted to be a girl for as long as I could remember but it is just delusional how do I get over it
>>43489392But the problem is I dont want to be a man though...
>>43489426what is different about not wanting to be gay and wanting to be with men as a woman?it's the same sentiment presented with different wordinggay people are men who date men AS MENwanting to be a woman is not wanting to be gay
>>43489312Nah, it’s pretty normal for straight men to wish they were some nice guy’s wife and to eventually become pregnant with his child.
>>43489471Tbf I didnt say it needs to be men exclusively but im just messed up I want to feel normal and the dynamic of being a woman is what I wish my normal was if it makes sense?
>>43489479I mean thats great to hear because that is exactly what I want!
>>43489506yeah you are attracted to men but fear being judged if you date men as a man, it's called internalized homophobia
>>43489534Its moreso about wanting to be a woman to be real with you but I never will be so why even care
>>43489556Stop responding to gincel, he is just mad that he cant groom as many 18 year old bottoms anymore
>>43489556because as a woman you get to express yourself romantically and otherwise in ways forbidden to gay men all the things you want do "as a woman" are things you can do as a man but you fear being judged for doing them as a man, and people are far less sympathetic towards repressed homosexual urges than "gender dysphoria"
>>43489571I mean its ok I just need someone to tell me how to stop the feeling of wanting to be a woman
>>43489580I can assure you I dont want to be in a relationship with a guy as a man the root of all this is that I wanted to be a girl ever since I was like 4 and I havent shaked it since
>>43489312i just wanna be held bros...
>>43489688Im sure you will get someone at some point!
It's not normal in the sense that it's not part of the norm. But then again, anything except feet fetish is a minority position and thus by definition abnormal.It's irrelevant whether it's normal or not. You feel that way and that's it.HOW to cope with this is a choice though.
I have a super nice personality (too nice) and im a huge pushover tho so it prob wont happen for me
>>43489749I will cope by ignoring it and maybe it will go away lol
>>43489785>maybe it will go awayit won't. But it's worth a shot.
>>43489785Well, it never did for the rest of us, if someone figured it out they're not here to tell us about it
>>43489857Im sure it has to if I get married to a woman right
>>43490606What about marrying a man, but not taking hrt or becoming a woman?
>>43490606nta but I was about to marry a woman (been together for 3 years, were living together). Still ended up being a guy's wife eventually.>What about marrying a man, but not taking hrtDoesn't work over the long run, no matter how much so many insist.>or becoming a woman?This does work. MEF doesn't necessarily means one has to become a woman. But sooner or later one does end up taking a bit of estrogen to at least manage things.
>>43490944>Doesn't work over the long runyou never tried
>>43490968lots of others did, why would they crack at 40 or 50 or somethingrepressing is unfortunately a lot harder with how much trannies are around in media and all, like everybody knows the option to do something about it exists
>>43490968>you never triedmeh, w/e. I still married a man and ended up happier.
>>43490944Sounds like you are living my dream what is it like? And well I just wont be a girl so why even entertain all this right?
>>43489506just be an obnoxious gay boi bottomthat's like being a woman but hooked on drugs and amab socialized
>>43491419That sounds super unappealing...
>>43489312Probably not too normal no lol
>>43491640from the perspective of a womantrans is when you internalize the homophobia a real woman has, and take it out on yourself ans assign negative attributes to any sort of male-originated femininity, and positive attributes to female-originated femininity things like "obnoxious gay", it's a way of making sure you never associate male homosexuality positively, women don't want that, then men wouldn't have to serve them, they could be on their own
>>43492540Well am I even trans though im just a guy with fucked up delusions I cant be a real woman if I tried
>>43492540Also I didnt even think I had a "female" approach to it I just really want to be a girl and ig I want everything that comes with it too
>>43492559trans isn't a meaningful category, ego dystonic homosexuals isyou can outgrow your limiting beliefs if you want, but yes, you will be confronting a society that hates what you are as a non-"trans"' person>>43492587just feels like you are an npc programmed to go "women are wonderful"you cannot introspect about the male condition, or male social rules>i just really want to be a girlyou think you didn't say that before and we would think something else if you didn't state it outright?that's why this feels so psyoppyits just sort of endless love bombing about womanhoodand holding firmly negative restrictive beliefs about males and how they behave but not expressing those as openly you talk casually as if males can choose to be females, and you simply haven't taken the steps to do so yet, it's very odd to a person not part of the homophobia cult
>>43492637Well to be real with you ,and I stated this in this thread before, I have been dreaming about being female since I was prob 6 or something and it has always been present in my life in some form and I feel very drawn to it, I dont worship womanhood either I wish this aspect of myself could disappear and I dont even like women if im honest so I dont even know what to do or even say what is happening
>>43492664So here was my thought on that, people act like 4-6 year olds are blank slates, but I, when I was that age, had figued out that all the people with status in the world were coupled off male-female so if I liked boys, which I was vaguely aware of from seeing them pee and change and some naked play, that I wasn't interested in doing with girls, I was going to be treated worse because I wasn't doing the male-female coupling bit expected of me. I think kids are just much more observant than you realize, and kids are made to stuff down a lot of their feelings and observations.
>>43492685I can genuinely say I dont find men physically attractive and I never have fwiw
>>43492691would you be upset if you did?
>>43492696Honestly not really at all which might sound weird but im more attracted to a dynamic and half the time its not even sexual
>>43492709maybe you've just repressed your sexuality entirelywould your family be supportive if you were flamboyantly gay and dated effeminate men?
>>43492716They are pretty tolerant yeah so idk really what is going on to be honest with you, in fact I feel genuinely attracted to women physically more often than not but there are certain things that comes with that which I dont really want
>>43492740so let's say you magically became a woman, you wouldn't then be open to having a husband at all?
>>43492747I probably would be open to it yeah in that scenario
>>43492762sigh
>>43492768Like I said I want that dynamic in a way where it enhances being a woman idk, but this is all just delusion im not one and I need to accept it. I just feel self destructive
