The Supreme Court legalizing gay marriage in the United States did not entirely end the social mistreatment of gays, by itself.
>>43493010duh
>>43493053but people say stuff like "gays got all their rights" as if that means nobody treats gays like shit anymore or oppresses them
>>43493062yeah and they're retarded. but i think most people know that legal and social treatment aren't the same thing. and it's not like gays are legally 100% treated the same as straights either
>>43493064>but i think most people know that legal and social treatment aren't the same thingI think they KNOW that, but that's not what they SAY, and most people ACT like they are the same thing as a way to try to dismiss people's lived experiences of subtle homophobia as irrelevantit's like a game
>>43493010everyone is mistreated socially have you ever seen society
>>43493062getting people to start saying that was the entire point of gay marriage being pushed to the forefront of activism. it was a way of neutering the movement. there are (albeit a little sketchy) links to cointelpro. compare: "women's liberation" with a very specific list of demands becoming "feminism" with a nebulous idea of equality
>>43493010No, Macklemore and Ryan Lewis did
>>43493735mm as I recall it was more about rich older gays being able to finance legal challenges (and actually caring about inheritances)maybe on some level it was proxy warfare, but to me it felt like a special interests thing, most gays don't really get affected much by gay marriage, except symbolically, and even then, it doesn't do as much as laws stating, say, that people can't use religion to be homophobic and enforcing those laws.
>>43493073> lived experienceOpinion discarded
>>43493864Do you think everyone loves gays now?
>>43493789there were definitely a lot of natural forces moving things in that direction too yeah. now you can buy a tshirt with a keith haring print on every street corner. genitals removed of course
>>43493879No, i just despise tautologies like "lived experience" and think people who use them have limited critical thinking
>>43493903you seem prickly and averse to rhetorical flourish
>>43493919Pricky yes, but theres nothing rhetorically elegant about "lived experience", its just clumsy repetition that smacks of standpointism
>>43493949If you give a straight person 3 examples they will think there are only 3 examples.You have to be capable of empathy or sympathy to be able to understand what other people go through.So words like "lived experience" filter people like you who aren't interested in understanding.
