>>43495947
Im not sure i follow

>>43495957
There are too many menu who pretend to be trans to transition and we should weed them out better
See the mef agps and other parasites on this very board

>>43495980
I see so you want hsts only

>>43495991
I want real women to transition yes
I dk t think Blanchards dichotomy was correct though.

>>43495947
>>43495980
>>43496008
people who want to take medication should be able to if they are informed of the consequences. the issue is the forced social role of trans woman onto a mef man

>>43496008
Should’ve just said hsts are trutrans and should be allowed to transition and everybody else is faketrans

>>43496044
are hsts even real anon

>>43496026
Mef men should be treated the same as rapists
>>43496044
I don’t agree with hsts as a thing thst exists

>>43496106
why. rape is about raping somebody. this isnt about raping somebody. depending on how its done it can be socially taboo and deeply u comfortable but unless you are literally sexually harassing people why would this even approach rape. thats just watering down the definition of rape anon

>>43496142
They are creepy and disgusting and break social norms by literally pretending to be something they themselves know they aren’t.
They shouldn’t be allowed in trans spaces shouldnt be encouraged or helped to transition shouldnt be even close to lgbt places
In general they should be given the boot

>>43496187
i agree that they shouldnt be allowed in trans spaces but also trans spaces shouldnt push hrt on these people in a misguided attempt to make them think they can fix their life with medication. truthfully the worst kind of person is the progressive transgender that will take every accusation of MEF and turn it around on its head. the metaironic version of this trope is dylan mulvaney whos baiting people to have that reaction

>>43496206
I don’t care who that is but yes. Unfortunately it’s too late and fake mef and fake trans “women” are already among us (sus) and pretend they are nothing more than try hard trans women down on their luck but they deserve no such pity.

>>43496322
hopefully they die out. cant tell you how many "transgender" people exist that are actively working to reinforce patriarchal values and make life harder for people with gd, trans or not, who genuinely want to live and be happy

>>43495947
>Trans male to female men
wtf is this? A detranny?

>>43496400
Unfortunately they won’t
Becayse like parasites they coddle up to trans people and leech credibility for their sick lives.
We need to gatekeeper harder and make sure to detect the parasites who are men from actual real trans people.

>>43496481
the death of femboys as a cultural norm is relieving but also scary. i really dont like how much it feeds into groomer culture

>>43496055
Maybe they’re just gayboys who transitioned for straight men sounds like mef lowkey

>>43496621
basically everything is MEF besides not liking the standards of manhood or having a genuine discomfort with your body. i fall into that category but im fetishy anyways? its unfortunate but i still need to use aap or agamp fetishism to be comfortable with my own body to some degree

(cont.) thats just how things end up when you are religiously pressured into not being gay but really want to date a guy still :(

from what i see MEFs like to feel below masculinity and below cis women. they see femininity as a weakness. i see femininity as empowering because it takes strength and courage to be fem as an amab. i see being feminine as as a higher form for me personally while acknowledging everyone is different. this is why i don't like the labels AGP and MEF.

>>43495947
you'll never be one of the good ones, hon

>>43496481
Are you just talking about fetishists, like people who jerk off to their transition? I don’t do that but I’m probably faketrans and would like to be gatekept pls, but I’m not sure how you would identify me as someone who needs to be gatekept

>>43496830
what are you supposed to do when you are a gatekept faketrans?

>>43496770
I’m Not trans lol
>>43496830
If you are a woman and have dysphoria and Dont jerk off due to tgat dysphoria and Dont think you can live as a man you can troon
Dumbing it down ofc

>>43496880
Live as a moid and die eventually I guess

>>43496700
>>43496711
I kinda get you my upbringing was very bad desu and i just never felt right in my body ever because of it so i felt like attraction was wrong for me to have or feel so i operated like drone for my whole teenage years

>>43496880
>>43496994
im a pretty twink i cant see myself moid

>>43497224
same. hugs nona

>>43495947
I'm a fetishist. I'm on E. I will never socially transition. It was a measure of, what felt like, last resort.

I've never had normal sexual attraction towards anyone, never wanted intimacy. I only ever pleasured myself to fantasies of forced transition and BDSM.
I always envied women dressing feminine, and sexually fantasized about being able to do so, being desired for it, being humiliated by it. Because it's so contrary to my respected, assertive, male public persona.

I hated nearly all changes that puberty brought. I hate my libido, body and facial hair, early stage hair loss, facial changes, brow bone. It got worse year by year, even though I tried to ignore it.

I was immensely insecure throughout my teens, coped with arrogance, narcissism, focus on academic achivement. Always felt worthless. When my grades dropped in uni, I completely self isolated for ~2.5 years, and felt that I deserved how much that hurt.

At some point, I started to notice parallels between how now transitioned AGP fetishists described their experiences, and my own. Subsequently noticed how disgusted I had become in my body over the years.
Came out to my family as "questioning". Got a GID diagnosis from a therapist (not worth much, I know).

Now, 6 months on E, my life has markably improved. My libido is way lower, which is great. Body and facial hair grows slower and thinner, temples start to fill back in, face looks younger.
But most importantly, I'm way more emotionally regulated / calmer, have better sleep, am happier, have broken out of my social isolation, academics are easier to handle. Way less self worth issues, don't hate myself anymore.
Family says I seem happier and more outgoing.

(1/2)

>>43498816 (cont.)

Only my mother and 2 friends know that I'm taking E. I have no plans of social transition, because I know it would be a ridicule of real trans ppl. to do so.
But for the first time in years, my life has changed for the better, and seems to have regained structure, purpose, and light.

I've tried to quit E twice, and after a few days, my emotional state, sense of self, daily structure started falling apart again, and only healed after restarting E.
I will try to quit again in the future, maybe it will work then. For now, I cannot afford to lose all my progress.

So yeah, maybe it's escapism. Maybe it's placebo. Maybe I'm beyond salvation. But I need to live. I want to make something of my life, not just watch myself rot in a body I hate.
And if E helps me live a better life as a man, so it shall be.

(2/2)

>>43498826
>>43498816
I hate you and all you represent
i wish you nothing btu the best
Cya in hell

>>43498884
Thanks, I wish you nothing but the best as well :)