you delusional ass nonas put the fear of god in me when it comes to dating cis women as a tranny, i was told death was preferable to dating a cis woman, because she would be super weird and transphobic and not treat me like a woman at all.been going out with this cis girl for like a year by now and it couldn't be going better, i feel like this is the best relationship i've ever been in, she's super nice and understanding, she never said or did anything that would cause dysphoria or that would indicate that she sees me as anything other than a woman, and she's super trans positive too so she really helps me a lot with that inherent tranny inferiority complex. literally nothing that i was told would happen, happened, lmfao. never got forced to top, never got forced to do something i didnt want to do, never got outed by her, never got pressured into detransitioning, she was always super enthusiastic to talk about me to other people so she's not ashamed of having a trans gf.man fuck i don't know what i was so scared ofpic unrelated
>>43496942it's just misogynistic basement dwellers.women are great, wish i could be attracted to them
>>43496952Women are generally afraid of trannies and their behavior reflects the fear they have of men.
>>43496942if you can live w/ a woman standing next to you and everyone seeing your large male body in comparison, that works out for you ig
>>43496942lying or delusional call it
>>43496942I'm happy for you! Cisfs are way better than any amab
>>43496942c4t lesbo kino
>straight man is happy he has a gfCongrats?
>>43497259i'm not really in love with people for the meta appearance boost they give to me personally
>>43497853didn't know liking women was something exclusively straight men did, no one ever likes women otherwise
>>43496942you got lucky. it may not be the rule, but it does happen a lot,so try your best to keep your gf together
>>43497853you are amab trans and you are being transphobic but it's the cisfs that I should be afraid of???
>>43496942most cis women who would be willing to date a trans woman are decent people. better than typical.the issue is that the minority who aren't can hurt you very badly while facing no consequences, because of the way society treats trans women.
>>43497907Nah but you can clearly tell OP is a moid who doesn't see women as ppl and as able to do harm too. He's just happy he has his trophy chaser. Like bruh>>43498027Like he literally couldn't stop himself from showing he doesn't see "amab trans" (kek) as women. Vile moid.Real lesbians don't say >omg I have a REAL WOMAN which is so much better than an AMAB TRANSLike be fr lmaooo
>>43496942c4t can be fine...if youre basically stealth, so youre on even footing with her. it sounds like you are so congrats. i wouldnt even think about it otherwise, not passing tends to be what opens you to abuse from cisf chasers
My dude I had the *exact* same thought as you but realized the cis woman was my abuser much later Survivor bias is immensely illogical and stupid, you’re literally just humble bragging and a good relationship can detonate quicklyThe vast majority of trans women are victims of abuse. How can you be so dense? >I made a personal choice and got a YMMV resultSo how is it our fault lmao tf is your problem
>>43498143seething incel jealousy. dont be such a loser bigot if you want to talk shit. quit masking because you clearly see being trans as a way skinwalk the women who rejected you in highschool. also people must think youre genuinely creepy if youre doing the "lesbians like trans lesbians too!!" bit
>>43498204I like dickNo clue what ur yapping about thoughevet
>>43496942OP im so sorry about the little geniuses shitting up your post. congrats>>43498227yeah, duh anon. your homosexuality doesnt make you any less freakish. we both know you dont internally see yourself as female. you think cis women are the devil, and trans women are little puppygirl angels who AHKSHUALLY care about your vidya unlike those stupid sociopathic foids
>>43496942she’s lying to you to gain your trust and will soon start to humiliate you for her own sadistic pleasure
>>43498258What the fuck are you yapping about how is what ur saying in any way related to what I said lmao You sound deranged and very mad, stop moiding hun, i can see your Adam's apple and your hand veins enlarging from here
>>43498274why are you describing yourself anon?
>>43498143thats not op
>>43498258thank you trickstermoder!
>>43498259i'd think anyone wouldn't wait over a year to do that but i guess people can change in a second
>>43498302all in a days work
>>43498282Ugh you have no repartee I'm bored af>>43498288Looked like it, doesn't matter anyway, this type of "i only date cissoids" """trannies""" are a big reason I left tranny spaces like shit 8y ago or sth lmao
>>43498258>>43498204>>43498302I’m sorry but trick is immensely wrong here. The other anon is correct, there is fetishization going on. If they’re both just women, this thread isn’t needed. She is just humble bragging lol. The survivor bias is insane.
>>43498350anon genuine question but wouldnt this thread be made because OP was initially worried about stories fed to them from this board? OP feels like "things are different" and is "posting about it" because its a commonly held sentiment that these sorts of things dont work according to /tttt/ and cisiety as a whole. saying that theres an imbalance because OP is posting just means you genuinely cant think of a world where a woman respects you as a woman, which is just weird and sad. have some confidence and find the right people.
>>43498330yeah thats true it is super gross i agree with you, but op isnt even saying that she only dates cissoids though, she just said that she is currently dating a cissoid and its been a great experience so far
>>43498406>>43498330personally i dont find an issue with wanting to only date cis women. i really dont get why thats so problematic when cis people can date whoever they want with whatever genital preference and not get shit on for it. this isnt 2016 anymore. besides, a majority of trans women that present as lesbians arent worth dating anyways
>>43498143You very obviously don't see me as a woman yourself???
>>43498406But why lmao imagine going >yeah I'm dating a black guy he isn't a violent ape into drugs and he never beats me! He even has a biological father and hates watermelonsLike shit can be racist even when you're """positive""" about it, maybe it's an autistic thing where ppl can't read subtextLike this stuff creates an "other" (the cis woman) that OP doesn't see themselves part ofIt's like trannies calling out cis moid chaser but then fawning for cis women chasers and it's so male socialised behaviour ugh
>>43498464>personally i dont find an issue with wanting to only date cis women>there are real women and trannies>I'm a tranny>you should see me as a real wombyn Ugh>>43498481No I don't.
>>43498519>No I don't.My point exactly.
>>43498403The people are correct because the statistics prove trans women are disproportionately victims of abuse…………. OP is not being helpful or constructive just seething at us supposedly convincing her (ok you have free will) Based on probability, someone taking OP’s advice has a very decent chance of being harmedThat is why this thread is pretty stupid and indefensible. Your retort? I think I’m being fair lmao
>>43498464> a majority of trans women that present as lesbians arent worth dating anywaysOh dam you’re a hypocrite when it comes to logic. You have no intellectual honesty I’m sorry to say
>>43498519im nonbinary see me as whatever you want to see me as. i wont get pissy about it. now can you quit projecting your rampant insecurity onto me? please?
>>43498578male chasers arent any better and being forced to date within an arbitrarily "safe" dating bracket thats less than 1% of the population sounds sad and soulless.>>43498592ive been consistent that i dont mind people having genital preferences, whats intellectually dishonest about that? if a guy doesnt want to date me for having a dick the most ill do is mess with him. ce la vie.
I'm so happy for you nona! people definitely exaggerate the risks of dating the ooo so scary cis women, but there definitely are heightened risks! I've personally met other lesbians who were kinda weird to me after knowing I like trans women to begin with, let alone as much as cis women
>>43500379lol thats kinda backwards why would they care if YOU liked them (????)
>>43496942Happy for you nona
>>43498673gonna be honest male chasers are much more emotionally stable and better people than female chasers. gay women have the highest divorce rate by far. the gap is also huge. sometimes I wonder if cis women see these posts and get sad. I'd imagine no, but I'm curious.
>>43496942femrepper
>>43497259Why do assume OP is large tho? I'm a tranny I've never towered over my partners even when I was pretending to be a moid
>>43498194>realized the cis woman was my abuser much laterWould you mind sharing how you realized?
>>43500974Something along the lines of not really being a lesbian if you like trans women. Of course they would never say that outright, I don't even think most of them even realize their prejudice, it's just terf rhetoric has been so normalized nowadays that a lot of lesbians don't even stop to question it, they just take it at face value and have a lot of times very contradicting beliefs about trans people. I know because i was there at some point! for a while a few years back I used to believe that trans women are always women but if they are not on hrt then they are men and if they don't want to have srs then they are men too, and that even though they are women they will never truly understand the women experience and that's why I would never date one unless she's been on hrt for at least 2 years and plans on having srs. It's terrible I feel disgusting remembering I used to feel this way, and it never occurred to me that this was hateful or exclusive rhetoric, I always just thought that was the agreed-on consensus. It wasn't until I started interacting with trans women (and developing feelings for them but that's kinda irrelevant) that it occurred to me that all that stuff was extremely transphobic, I had to do unlearn all of that stuff and I'm so happy I did, to think that I went from having such hateful beliefs to dating exclusively trans women for years now and having a beautiful amazing trans gf I love and cherish with all my heart, it's crazy.Got a bit carried away haha
>>43501773happy to hear. is it cruel as someone whose nb "detrans" that some trans girls i just cant trust to be women in good faith?>>43501327but theyre literally either reppers, abusers, etc. if you want a guy youll want someone who doesnt see you as a fetish or a replacement for an actual woman. also theyre all fucking racist for some reason
>>43496942If we put the larping aside women are probably better to date in you're bisexual, idk.
>>43497318idk my transgender wife is the most beautiful person i have ever known inside and out...i think it is just women who are better than men desu..
>>43500379>>43501773You know most men think a man is gay for liking trans women yet nobody expects cis men to show this level of accountability. So are cisfs really more transphobic or do people just have a higher standard for women? I'm leaning towards the later lately even though I've been more scared of cis women in the past that was all more because of my own insecurity about not fitting in with them
>>43496942>>43496952Reminder, to find out how to vote in the US elections to stop persecution of LGBTQ people by Republicans, it's no less simple than this.These days you can just ask an advanced AI how to vote in your state/county, it will provide a good outline.
>>43504247>ask an advanced ailol, lmao even>>43504014yes also they give men freebies because of sexism :(
>>43504247Voting isn’t real or works, if it mattered they wouldn’t let us do it to begin with it’s all a part of the corporate banksters raping us coming and going we’re slaves to their ai death rape machines that penetrate me all hours of the day and night they steal my sleep they put distortions in mirrors don’t believe the lies they want YOU to believe
>>43504014I think it's because people (including other women) hold women accountable more, like it's true that the average guy is way more prejudiced than the average gal (probably) but who is really there to hold them accountable? they congregate in more insulated spaces with no one to hold them accountable, even a lot of progressive people just handwave and go "Boys will be boys!" whenever men are prejudiced
>>43502135I would say that's pretty cruel but what does "trust to be women in good faith" even mean
>>43504831Women hold women accountable more because we all know men are soulless apes that need culledMen being bigoted at least act in their own interests, women are bigoted because they'd rather their husband beat and rape them than have to see black ppl
>>43504844incel transitioners and like people who hold onto incredibly mysognisitic beliefs while calling people who are female "foids". if you cant internally see yourself as a woman in any capacity, trans, and are 27 you probably shouldnt be here. the one other time ive felt this way is when this repper came out but also held the beliefs that women had it easier than men and the barbie movie is feminist propaganda... AND THEN started hitting on me. it was kind of disgusting. im not going to be your little fucking pickme MEF indulger
>>43504976It's funny to see a detrans moid try to be an authority about trannies like who tf are you lmao fkn mansplaining trannydom
i have a lot more sympathy for younger people. but these were both people in their late twenties who were clearly hateful pig men BRIMMING with insecurity, enough that they couldnt help but see women as a target. which i cant emphasize enough: if you hate women in this sense you probably dont internally align with womanhood.
>>43504999fuck you too buddy i say what i want cuz its right
(cont.) at any point i could have just been a normal woman but i chose not to because im just such a HoNkIn HaRlEQuIn who JuGgLeS jEnDeR jOyOuSlY
>>43505059>transphobic moid moidingAlso yes women can be sexist wild that moids such as you truly think of us as perfect human beings lmao most sexism I've gotten is from my mum
>>43505112IF YOU ARE A KHHV INCEL SEXIST THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM SBURBAN MOM SEXIST. QUIT PLAYING GAMES WITH ME YOU LITTLE ROACH
>>43505143And what do you call it when most cis women will back rapists esp. if the rapist is family? Is it really worse than brainwormed bs? That said it is my duty to call out moid behaviour like OP. Male socialised troons are disgusting and need to fix it or detrans (which good job lmao)But that doesn't mean cis women are le hecking perfect angels and only "suburbian mums sexist" nah they can be more vile than the worst incel you know dw
>>43505178im not even going to try to unpack how retarded what you said just is. yeah i agree that mom sexism can be developmentally damaging and evil, im speaking from experience HOWEVER yeah that is coming from a place of internally percieving yourself as female which is something they cant do. why are you running defense for these people? why do you humiliate yourself by making me say "yes of course both are bad" as if you were a preschooler? OP is more normal about this than youll ever be, than ILL ever be even.
>>43505228Well of course moids think moids are more normal about womanhood than women.Tbqh being normal about womanhood is definitely not possible if you're a womanBut I know my BPD ramblings as if I were Solanas reincarnated always pissed off autistic moids otb off y'all truly hate not seeing shit in camps and truly are 100% into the "women is wonderful" camp or the "foids are trash" camp but both are deeply moided thought patterns
>>43505297theyre just people anon. youre the one shooting down the idea of a relationship and reinforcing this idea that women are meant to be permanently divorced from other women because of what genitals they have. love is love. let OP try
>>43505332You truly don't understand what I said lol never said trannies can't be with cissoidsBut "trannies" who boast about dating cissoids because they're le real women are, by their own logic, not womenNo woman wants to be some estrogenised incel's bragging rights
>>43505357OP literally just has anxieties about what a relationship like this might be like. if you see this as a humblebrag maybe... just maybe... you might be a jealous loser? it shows how much you put it on a pedestal.
>>43505381I should stop trying to reason with autistic soulless moidsYou have no lights in your eyes you are an automaton you wish you were a golem but you're a literaly LLM except the large here means your moid gut
>>43505297>BPDThat explains it. You are not capable of understanding how human relationships work. All you can do is seethe at those who have found happiness. I feel pity for you
>>43505399stop shaming people for being fat and autistic youll end up giving someone a boner
>>43505431Lel I planted that there just to make sure I'd weed out the moids like yes I am actually diagnosed BPD but BPD is a thing only women are diagnosed with (it's the new hysteria) and the mere mention of it makes sexist incels so mad just bringing it up is a litmus test for male socialisationBut I'm sure moidmodertheymabhon will still argue you're a trve wombyn despite your confession. You've lost, John.>>43505434Fat people are otonlogically evilMale autists too
>>43505479it seems I have fallen for the ruse of a master baiter, how embarrassing for me
>>43505479i do think the bpdshaming sucks. i got disgnosed with it as well, but i think youre kind of unwell and have begun hating autists and fat people. as someone who likes being bigger and thinks its cute its just kind of outrageously funny. like i have to actively put effort into eating and gaining weight but you feel like you need to come in here and shame me for it? thats kind of sad anon. it might work on someone who fetishizes bdd and eds tho
>>43505525Nah I'm just having fun I mean i do mean what i say but I'm not le triggeredIt is my right to be angry and not be the people-pleasing carpet ppl want me to be Also depends how big if you go into full on obesity it's disgusting and unhealthy slight overweight is ok igDidn't know you were actually fat lel
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>>43505671if i do get over like 200 lbs i definitely want to make sure a lot of that is muscle and subcutaneous fat. theres never a good reason to hinder your mobility but i digress. personally i dont think finding random groups to hate on is fun anymore. its just kind of laborious and can clearly attract the wrong crowd. but yknow, thats 4chan
>>43505748I feel like hating groups of ppl when ppl choose to be parts of that group is very much okFats and nazis it's the same bad choices bad ppl
>>43505773>choose to be fatif someone cant put down the fork thats an addiction issue. theyre sad but i dont think its harmful to other people unless its putting medical strain on family members. fat ≠ bad. being a nazi though is a direct endorsement of violence, discrimination, imperialism, and mass genocide. these are completely different things. im not keen on judging people on correlative things but if its a direct belief they have im all for it i guess
>>43505861>fat ≠ badCorrect. But it does mean being unhealthy, which is a bad thing.
>>43505861Addicts are losers thoughever. I mean i know, I'm a former weed addict. Was a huge loser. Sure I used it telling myself I was coping with trauma/chronic pain but it made me lose years of my life and shouldn't be normalised/accepted.
>>43505887yeah but thats like making fun of a guy that shot his arm off its a bit malevolent isnt it.
>>43505902i agree :/ i just dont think bullying fat people is helpful or good for your soul
>>43505907No? Being fat is preventable.
>>43496942i could never befriend let alone date a woman like i couldnt deal with all the psych damage that comes from being reminded physically of what ill never be
>>43505929shooting off your own arm is also preventable anon. you do have arms right anon?
>>43505971So you think being fat is as terrible as losing a limb in an accident?You're a moron dude.
>>43505984i dont think that anon. the fractured thoughts in the back of your head filling your mind with delusion might have led you to believe that though.
>>43506027So what do you think? Be specific please.
>>43496942>never got forced to top,Never got "forced to" huh
>>43506051i was attempting to get across the idea that self harm, or the inability to be healthy isnt bury nice to make fun of anon. i like fat people a lot. maybe even too much. theyre really fun to draw. i am the one anon who you cannot accuse of hating fat people lmfao.
>>43505918I think bullying can help actually like not yknow bullying irl but some online bullying that isn't targeted at someone? Sure like make you motivated to change to know that ppl find you disgusting because you're 400kgs yknow
>>43505971I'd bully a moron who handicapped himself because he's a yank with a phallic gun obsession so much frfr
>>43506083i think doing the right thing for the wrong reasons can also suck in a completely different way. i mean transition was right for me but also i was motivated by religious paranoia. people should be motivated to change for themselves and if they cant it shouldnt be your problem imo. feel free to live knowing you dont need to give them your mental energy>>43506093:< youre just kind of an asshole anon, and not the fun kind
>>43506116I am an asshole but I don't see why being mean to men who dream of having a black kid knock at their house to kill is a bad thingAll ppl who own guns should put it between their teeth and pull the trigger
>>43506130thats a lot of assumptions being made but ok. im just going to continue my gradual metamorphosis into guillotina so i can eat all teh bebes
>>43506080>inability to be healthyEveryone can eat less and do more tho. So that's a moot point.Not everyone can re-grow a limb
>>43506155Omg don't tell me you own a gun lmaoooo>>43506161I could if I truly wanted
>>43506169Cool. That doesnt mean my statment is incorrect
>>43506182True trueAnyway the real reason you should hate fat ppl is because as a vegan fatties kill the most animals and you basically cannot be fat and vegan so fatties are like the antivegan
>>43506161shrug if youre 600 pounds and bedridden youre gonna be scarred for the rest of your life physically. regardless of some things being fixable or not you should just treat people with respect and human decency unless they reveal themselves to not be that sort of person. want something to make fun of me for? make fun of me for being a shotacon>>43506169no. but i dont really see the issue with owning one given the current political state of burgerland and the excess of weaponry that fall out of the sky and clog pipes etc.
>>43506222Nice racist pic anon really shows how nice you are
>>43506222So why can't a 600 pound person eat slightly less every day? Be specifc.
>>43506237im bored of you.>>43506229i dont really know what the pants mean its just some image i found on google because nb flag + oversharing. youre free to act catty and cry about it though.
>>43506269I accept your concession.Thanks for confirming you couldn't answer my extremely simple question.
i think the plot got lost here
>>43506285ur a very good boy anon!! gold star!! fat people are evil and bad because they have no self control!!
>>43506321>fat people are evil and bad because they have no self control!!I never said or implied this.I said being unhealthy is worse than being healthy, because it's a fact.
>>43506345then we agree? ok. glad we do. bye
>>43506368>then we agree?Nah, you seem to think fat people can never lose weight.I think it's good for them to try and be healthier in anyway they can, even if they are 600 pounds.
>>43506345so how was your day. was work stressful?
>>43506269>I posted a racist caricature but I don't know what it means teehee + I'm a pedoKys
>>43506432god loves you ali. he loves you very much. and wants you to stop talking to dirty moid pedophile racists. stop talking to dirty moid pedophile racists ali. do what god would want
>>43496964You used the term 'trannies'. I've heard different opinions on it. Is that the word most trans people prefer for themselves in this context? I want to make sure I use the right language.