Like I would like to have a female body, but outside of that I have little to no interest in anything feminine
>>43499424were calling ur kind hrt cis males now
i'm a woman so all my interests are by definition feminine
>>43499424Im fine with moding im fine with being a hon just dont be dramatic and its fine
>>43499621Sooooo.... I'm guessing you're not a hrt cis male like me?
manmoders legit consider themselves women and would like at least in theory to live full time as women at some point.you and me are just dudes who do body modification for the aesthetics. heck, i'm not even into men. i showed up on the board for /hrtgen/.
>>43499805i'm a very misfortunate woman that has to pretend like i'm a man in public for safety
>>43499875I have physical dysphoria, which I wouldn't want to downplay, but yeahI wonder if society will ever get to a point of total acceptance where it's normal for men to take estrogen without having a female identity
>>43499424i just kinda accepted it at this point like everyone sees me as a guy and nothing will make me truly androgynous. so whatever
>>43499926It will. DiY made it impossible to know who is taking it, why, how much and for how long. There are a lot more of us than we dare knowing.I live in the chuddy part of Europe in a city of 300k. When I started in 2017 it was unheard of. Now I personally know 8 guys and the gymrats have started selling estrogen too and they say they have dozens of customers (none of them that I know).I went with my gf to SEA on vacation. Left my shots at home to avoid airport shenanigans. Took under one hour to find the exact type of estrogen I needed in Phnohm Penh. The pharmacist who sold it to me said it used to be 1-2 non-tranny customers a month. Now it's 1-2 per day. And that was in 2023.Women who take T for non-tranny reasons already get praised in normalfag media. idk about "total" acceptance but acceptance of men taking estrogen for looks/aesthetics will grow due to sheer logistics. Unironically I find the "lgbt community" more hostile than chuds.The chuds make a fag joke and then they apologize when they meet my (de facto) wife. The queers tell me to kms and insist I am a woman. And then they hate me more when I "crossdress" and end up mogging a few of the local trannies heh.
>>43500037What I find interesting is that we can only really have this identity out of circumstanceIf estrogen made us pass we would just be women or trans women
>>43500253>If estrogen made us pass we would just be women or trans womenIdk. If there were a social category as third gender, I'd adopt that. Otherwise, no, I'd still go with "feminine man". I really don't want to be a woman. I just want my body to be a lot less masculine to match with my personality and concept of self. But sure, I wouldn't necessarily mind if I were to be seen as female, other than the logistics nightmare of changing my paperwork lol.
>>43500554I'm not sure what I would do if I wasn't perceived as a normal manI just want to be lazy and fit in, so I think if I was seen as a woman I would grow my hair, voice train, but still dress in men's clothing. It would give me freedom to stop suppressing feminine mannerisms, yet I would then have to suppress masculine ones.It's hard to completely guess how I'd need to adapt and how I'd feel
>>43500774I already have long hair and sometimes wear skirts (think kilts and things that look good on a male body).I'm not suppressing anything. That's why a third gender category would fit me a lot better. I'm fembrained on some things but heavily masc on most. And i don't want to change the latter part at all because it has served me well. But I also like my fembrained aspects and my wife finds them hot too.
