A trans friend of mine made a comment the other day about how she's glad she passes really well, even if she isnt conventionally attractive, then alluded that I was probably not going to pass, but that I was somewhat attractive. I think I can live with that, honestly - I get plenty of attention from other trans women when I go out, but little to non from cis men (Im bisexual, I go about 50/50). Has anyone else had to wrestle with this? Am I not receiving attention from men because they are generally worse at approaching women, or are they not interested? This photo is a little old, and i dont usually wear sundresses - i typically dress a bit more stereotypical (combat pants, boots, tank tops/band tees). Ive also put on a about 20 pounds since then :p
>>43502371i think you pass and you're good looking. in terms of attention, i just don't bother people in public. only place i'd approach women is in clubs/bars. even in something like combat boots and a tank top i don't think that would prevent you from being an attractive woman.t. cis bi m
passing is a myth
>>43502371this makes me wanna cry i can never go out because im a totally unpassable freak
>>43502396Well, thank you. I think my voice gives it away, I still have a bit of a fagcent and im also 5'11, so I guess I can work on my voice a bit more. If I go to a non-trans bar, no one really wants to approach, but im realizing in saying this that perhaps I have to be the one to approach. I just fear that my voice is gonna make someone freak out, yknow? A more normal day for reference
>>43502371you pass in a way i can only describe as "1950s housewife physiognomy"i intend this as a compliment :)
I started too late...
>>43502516Lol, ive heard this, thank you very much. I've tried to lean into old movie star a bit more.
>>43502522I mean, I started at 26, this is one and a half years. A lot of it is makeup, honestly. I had a friend teach me how to contour and it helped a good bit.
>>43502371don't let the hugboxers get to youno you are not somewhat attractiveso. fem presenting cannot be attractive w/o passingi don't mean to be mean, i just think ysk where you stand, please don't take it personally, but there are very few atttactive trannies and they wouldn't be if they didn't pass
>>43502540ahahah omg i started at 25 and im 29 and literally nothing changed ive never worn a dressomg i need to die
>>43502605People have to pass to be attractively fem?
>>43502470jaw dropped holy fuck you are gorgeos
>>43502402When you say ‘passing is a myth,’ do you mean no trans person has ever been consistently read as cis in their daily life, or just that you personally haven’t witnessed it?
>>43502371I think you look cute in the pics you posted itt. You have a nice smile. You’re kind of borderline on passing, I’d have to see you irl to judge. Cute either way thought. Bi dude
>>43502371they are not interested.you cannot exist as a cis woman under 25 and not be approached (unless you're obese or disfigured, if even)also one thing trannies will never tell you is what determines if you pass is really just your voice.6ft3 squared-jawed cis women still socially take the role of woman because they sound like women. You can be the most female looking trans woman on earth if your voice still sounds male you'll socially have the role of a manthat's one of the thing i've always found crazy about mtfs, they are often obsessed about how female they look and completely forget that people are social beings before physical/visual beings. Very male-brained in a way unfortunately
>>43506944TrvkeI set up an appointment with a therapist because she had some extremely clocky features and I was certain she was trans. Then we had an appointment and I heard her speak and I became certain she wasn’t. It’s kind of incredible what a voice can do
>>43507004it also sort of go both way tooI knew a femboy-adjacent nb tranny with a perfect female voice, I was never certain of his gender (figured out he was an amab fag)the pill is that voice is rule, and it's something that's largely genetics and difficult to change even with surgeries
>>43507042My cis boyfriend gets misgendered in every phone call and at every drive thru, even when people know his very male name, all because he’s a voice luckshit. It pains me to see that kind of talent wasted
>>43507042>>43506944Yeah that makes sense. Even have been so certain that someone was trans until they spoke, and it became a total coin flip. Its the deciding thing to go to if someone is on the border/questionable. It also seems that im like, kryptonite to a certain kind of person (like 1/10 or something), because sometimes I just bat wayyyyy outta my league for what seems like no reason. Usually people who like an assertive kindof vibe. Could be chasers sure, but it feels too frequent to be that; but what do I know?