Looks like I picked the wrong weak to quit playing fentanyl roulette!!
>>43502792>no one does anything about migrants except reform>people get surprised when reform gets votesby design, neoliberal incompetence feeds into right wing populism. this pattern keeps repeating itself all over the west and every time, without fail, people act surprised
They do well in local elections then proceed to fuck up in every local authority. If they get into government we are so fucked
>>43502792*week
>>43502792>country gets raped endlessly by brexit for years>votes for the party headed by the guy who fucked us with brexit in the first placecan we take away the voting rights of white people and menmaybe the irrational libshit manhating feminists had a point
>>43502842It's old people. Both cases.
>>43502842>accept becoming a hated minority in your country white Boi!!!
>>43502801I wouldn't worry too much, brits haven't learned their lesson with Brexit and are eager to let Farage rob them blind once again.
>>43502860after the vote maybe thats what you deserve
>>43502879Whites were at the wokest point ever until you pushed too hard in 2020 hon
>>43502792F
>>43502801>bro this new based right wing party, with a suspiciously large support from foreign billionaires and social media, while their leftist equivalent is lambasted daily as islamocommunists, is TOTALLY gonna do what they promised bro we're TOTALLY not falling for it again bro.
>>43503322never said that reform was good. right wing populism promises everything and delivers on nothing. i agree that they're puppets for the asset owning class and that makes it even more embarrassing that labour is getting its shit rocked. it's a larger indictment of people who are supposed to be the adults in the room than it is of the political grifters.
Where are these results from OP?
>>43502792Europe will need to build a wall to keep briish migrants from invading.
>>43502792who cares, Labour and Conservative hated trannies too, do you really think Reform is going to be that much worse than the admin that ruled we're not legally women?
>>43503627Yes.
>>43503627Yeah, they will be far worse
>>43503664>>43503633what has Reform said about trannies specificallydon't get me wrong, I think they'll be terrible for other reasons, but transphobia in the uk already a partisan issue amongst the major parties after Labour raced Conservative to the bottom over it. It's hardly ever in the news after the Cass review, gutting of NHS care, and equality act ruling
>>43502792It's over
>>43503685>why you worried about a far right party taking over when the groundwork for our elimination has been laid.Bro, you are not asking questions in good faith.
>>43503788I just think this board engages in hysterical groupthink at times, I understand why people are scared but the fact that you can't point to a single thing that reform said they'd do that labour/conservative hasn't already illustrates my point, but I'd like to be corrected if I'm wrong.and again, im not some kind of nazi femboy larper either, im actually an EU federalist, that's why I hate reform.
>>43503788It’s important to remember 99% of the British public are abject fucking retards. Most people don’t think reform is actually going to materially impact their lives in any way, including reform voters. It’s why Brexit passed, it’s why reform is winning now. The median British voter views politics as a button they press to change what they talk about on the news and freaks the fuck out when it creeps into their real lives. It’s why the economic death spiral this country’s been in since suiciding our trade relations with entire continent can’t be because we did that. It has to be migrants and the Chinese and young people not working hard enough because when I go and vote, it doesn’t do things in real life.
>>43503827I agree with the gist of your post, but can you answer my question then since you're so informed and literate >>43503685?
>>43503322just one more populist bro itll fix everything bro i promise bro just one more
>>43503860Me when I pretend not to understand why far right populism is scary to trannies in a country where 50% of populist rhetoric is calling trans women pedophiles.
>>43502860BLACK PEOPLE BAD!!1!1111 ECONOMIC RUIN GOOD1!11!!! >:O
>>43503948Its really ironic that you went on this massive tirade about how 99% of the people in this country are these stupid little cattle people who don't understand politics, and yet you can't answer a basic question about the party you're dehumanising people for voting for.Mast reform voters are retards, but that applies to equally to all parties at this point. Politics has become nothing more than another national sport where people more about banner waving than reading manifestos, really sad how badly America has raped European (and especially Anglophone) politics, you're part of the problem too (although I'm still open to being corrected if someone more informed and honest shows up)
>>43504013Why are you asking retarded questions about reform? They will accelerate our disenfranchisement. Saying that the previous parties have been anti trans isnt a gotcha. They follow Project 2025, which wants the criminalisation of trans people.You either accept a far right party in control of the government on Terf Island is bad for trans people, or you continue to bury your head in the sand
>>43504030>they follow project 2025do you have a single fact to back that up (or any piece of evidence that doesn't apply to the other major parties)>why are you asking questionsto prove a point about how awful labour has been for trans rightsalso because leftists have this really snide and arrogant attitude that I honestly feel is unwarranted as of late, I dislike lib dem the least, but as a tranny I often move in leftists spaces, the posts I've made here today reflect my frustration with leftist hysteria and circle jerking.
>>43504013American culture and politics are anglophone at their core. This is not something that’s been pushed on the UK by an outside force, that’s cope. We exported our culture to every corner of the planet, both directly and by proxy via the yanks, and the world we live in now is the result of that.You can keep pretending not to understand why trans women are afraid of far right populism, you can say all voters are equally retarded (they aren’t, if labour voters are autistic reform voters have fucking downs), you can pretend that the british public is only retarded now because America tricked them, and you can pretend not to understand what people mean when they answer your questions.Unfortunately, real life is going to happen either way and pretending not to know that you can’t afford food when the UK finally goes bankrupt isn’t going to exempt you from starving.
>>43504080I actually agree with you here tho, reform is not following project 2025 that’s literally an American political project lmao most of it wouldn’t even make sense if you tried to use it as a blueprint for the UK because it’s literally written for a specific country that is not here. And while I agree that liberal smugness is annoying an wholly unwarranted at this point given that they’ve very clearly shown that they don’t actually have any consistent beliefs or values on anything, it doesn’t change the fact that reform is still orders of magnitudes worse than any liberal or left wing party in the country
>>43504080Farage said he wants a doge for britian, and they'll scrap all dei
>>43504080>hysteriaA far right party are looking to get in.Can you describe political circumstances where it is warranted to be concerned?
>>43504183>reform is not following project 2025Farage is funded by the Heritage Foundation via Tufton Street, among others, the HF are the people behind Project 2025.The playbook is very similar.
Nigel Farage says "Trans Rights!"
>>43504861Based, he will respectfully exclude us
>>43504870He was quite inclusive when he got Nikki Sinclair elected for UKIP as the first trans MEP.
>>43502792I hate this country so fucking much, British people are the worst and I wish we’d just sink into the sea from climate change already
Kemi Badenoch calling out Farage for being a tranny sympathizer https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1952628898044285089
>>43502842i actually need to know how white westerners became this hilariously cucked LOL
>>43504945What we need is more trans politicians to paint a veener of respectability over the shit sandwich
>>43505047Brexit is the refusal to be cucked.
>>43505026In any other country, this type of rhetoric during multiple crisis's would be career ending. But in Britian, people clap and cheer as they die in hospital corridors, god bless that Badenboch for saying "trans bad", muh wimmen and childrun, gotta protect them by saying "trans bad"
>>43505081Buying expensive rotting food to own the libs
>>43505104Contrary to libtard hysteria, food price increases are not a British phenomenon and British food prices have in fact increases less than the EU average. But yes hypothetically even if there were economic costs to retaking sovereignty in the short run - which there hasn't been - it would be worth it.
>>43505177>my neighbour eats bowls of shit, so you'll eat a bowl of shit too Great logic. Cant wait for "but France are throwing innocent people in prison too, stop complaining"
This is happening because only 83% of the UK is white now. People wish it was more like Japan, where 97% of the population is Japanese.
>>43505251>Staying in EU would have made everything better even though they aren't doing better
>>43505291White British people are some of the most hateful cunts I've ever met
looks like there might be a first trans person elected to the scottish parliament which is cool
>>43505291Even Japan is getting replaced.
>>43505304Yeah fuck freedom of movement, make it so everyone's trapped in the UK unless you are wealthy.How exactly does severing trade links help the UK? It doesn't.
>>43505312Ah I'm sorry you've had bad experiences.
>>43505323>Yeah fuck freedom of movement,This but unironically. >make it so everyone's trapped in the UK unless you are wealthy.How about making UK not crap instead of fleeing. Also British people can easily get a visa everywhere. >How exactly does severing trade links help the UK?Freedom to exclude unwanted foreigners for example.
>>43505392Yeah im sure the super rich rulers of the UK will redistribute their own wealth and relinquish private ownership of utilities any day now.
>>43502792I'm an indian tranny and I voted reform.
>>43505392>Also British people can easily get a visa everywhere.Blatant lie
>>43505462Pay for your own plane ticket, lazy fucker
>>43505316Really?
>>43505477What do you mean?
>>43505492Yeah, there was a viral video a few months ago of that crossing in Japan.You don't notice it's japan at first, because it's so full of Indian people.
>>43503827To be fair, the migrants don’t help matters, they absolutely do increase job competition and damage societal/cultural cohesion.>>43505095Nearly nobody likes Badenoch retard, the number of people who psyop themselves into liking the scum who lead parties in this country is very low, with the exception of the occasional populist, who the media will inevitably try to character-assassinate as happened with both Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn despite being objectively the most broadly popular leaders of their parties for decades.>>43505177Retaking sovereignty is not the genuine interest of any significant party in this country, if it was then certain other groups of foreign influence would be under significantly more scrutiny. The “sovereignty” we are headed towards just looks like American (and therefore Israeli) domination and selling more of our land to arab and Chinese billionaires
>>43503860Nta but it's less what Reform have said and more what Reform supporters are saying. Reform have largely said 'keep this shit out of our schools, return to sanity' etc. but the reform supporters are the ones with the most MAGA-esque violent rhetoric saying they want to actively purge us from society, even if it's LARP they're more willing to say it than even Starmer voters. It means they're more confident in actively harassing us on the street etc.
>>43505663There are anti discrimination laws to protect you, so even if that does happen You'll just win a court case and be fine.
>>43505687The law doesn't matter in this country, idiot, it's whatever the people in power want. How do you think we ended up with the Forstater precedent which is now forcing venues and institutions to host/employ vocally transphobic people they don't want to?
>>43505742Doesn't that go the other way too?
>>43505742>The law doesn't matter in this countryThen why are you pretending like the votes matter?
>>43505771No. The law doesn't matter, power does. The Met Police commissioner broke purdah, nobody cares. The Filton24 get acquitted, people get arrested for telling the jury about jury nullification using the spurious anti-protest laws that have been brought in over the past few years & they run the same trial again til the government get the verdict they want (we don't have double jeopardy here).
>>43505913People SHOULD get arrested for telling juries about jury nullification it's incitement to miscarriage of justice.
>>43505687>You'll just win a court caseA barrister costs £1500 per day
>>43505986Isn't UK a "loser pays" legal system.
>>43505986>no win, no fee solicitorEZ PZ.
>>43505943>>43505986Also UK has several legal aid programs. >>43505998Well you have to find someone agreeing to that.
>>43505995It can be, but not always.
>>43505995No, you can win and be liable for court costs. It depends on the judge>>43505998Good luck finding a barrister thats any good who will take on trans court cases.t. was discriminated against my former employer
>>43506004And it's easy.>Someone discriminated against a minority and you can prove it.That's the easiest court case to win in the world.
>>43506004>Also UK has several legal aid programsLegal aid has been cut to the bone. Legal aid is a few emails detailing what your options are, they dont provide court representation, that comes out of your own personal pocket
I can tell this thread is full of glowies, they are inherently disingenuous
>>43506030>That's the easiest court case to win in the world.Like when Graham Lineham was filmed attacking a trans girl and smashing her phone, then a judge ruled that actually, maybe the phone was broken before Lienham threw it on the ground
>>43502792I love how "far-right" in modern, western sense just means you're opposed to mass immigration and don't want unregistered third world barbarians ruining your countryAnyways, every party in britain at this point hates trans people with a passionTrannies are literally treated worse than pedophiles over thereAt least reform will actually do something about the migrant crisis and try to prevent millions of unregistered Muhammads from commiting crime and forcing everyone to follow sharia law
>>43506055>Like when Graham Lineham was filmed attacking a trans girl and smashing her phonePost the video plz.
>>43506067You'll have to do some digging yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1t136f4/graham_linehans_conviction_for_damaging
>>43506066Disingenuous fuckerFar right also means a regressive economic system that impoverishes the masses, attacks the disabled, equates a hierarchy of human value and uses scapegoats to delfect from human rights breaches
>>43506067He smacked at it. But he wasn't acquitted because it wasn't proven he had damaged it. https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15782759/Father-Ted-Graham-Linehan-conviction-overturned-appeal.html
>>43506098No it just means not wanting infinite non-Whites freely allowed into one's country. That's what get's one labelled far right. The rest you mention merely get's one labeled centrist or center-left.
>>43506124Yeah there's literally zero proof he broke anything here.Oh well.
>>43506154>>43506124Actually he was found guilty, but one, 1, one judge overruled the overs and said well actually.I guess you lot like seeing your justice system whore itself out, remember that when its your turn
>>43506165>Actually he was found guiltyProof? thanks
>>43506146Funny how you vote for the same people who let them in, the definition of insanity
>>43506171https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1p697j6/graham_linehan_cleared_of_harassment_but_guilty
>>43506154>>43506165>The judge said Ms Brooks' initial report had also made no mention of any phone damage, and only referred to the harassment claim.https://news.sky.com/story/graham-linehans-conviction-for-damaging-transgender-activists-mobile-phone-overturned-13538863
>>43506171He was found guilty in trial court, overturned on appaeal see the link >>43506124
>>43506173I'm not voting for greens or labor or tory
>>43506213No one fucking cares bro, you're gonna suffer like the rest of usConservatives won, yet they are as miserable and as hateful as ever
>>43506232You seem to care a lot. I'm not sure what you mean by "conservatives won"? Tories have been decimated because they betrayed their promises on immigration.
>>43506173Does it concern you at all that all these uncountable migrants come from countries where it's considered moral to stone or kill anyone who would use this board?
>>43506254I dont care how you vote
>>43506274ok bro yet you made a statement about how I voted for some reason >>43506173
>>43506272The Home Office can restrict the number of Visa's it hands out. The Home Secretary has direct power over this.
>>43506291Yes we need a based Reform politician in that position to keep out all the transphobic moslems.
>>43506312Suella Braverman is the Home Secretary for Reform.She the HS for the Tories who spent £7 billlion bringing in Afghan asylum seekers and securing deals with Serco and G4S to house them in hotelsShe is also very transphobic and imprisoned an innocent trans person, and hounded another out of a job
>>43506331>imprisoned an innocent trans personProof?
>>43506331You're right, Reform is too foreigner friendly, vote Restore.
>>43506336Saraha Jane Baker, Suella Braverman, google those two names together>>43506341Just admit you love licking the boot
>>43506360Can't find any proof of anthing. Help me out?
>>43506360Who's boot? What is your point? Vote for da greens who wants infinity Afghans and other nons instead?
>>43506371Suella Braverman, who served as Home Secretary in 2023, personally intervened to reopen an investigation into Sarah Jane Baker after the Metropolitan Police initially decided there would be no further action regarding Baker’s speech at London Trans+ Pride. Baker had shouted, “If you see a Terf, punch them in the fucking face,” leading to a complaint that police initially deemed hypothetical. Braverman tweeted that she was “glad the police have decided to investigate” and stated, “I’m sure the police will consider the evidence carefully,” which critics argued was political pressure. This intervention led to Baker’s arrest and recall to prison, where she remained while charged with encouraging the commission of an offence. Baker was later found not guilty of encouraging violence, with the magistrate citing doubt about her intent, but she remained imprisoned pending a parole hearing.
>>43506397This is just a claim anon.I asked for proof, verifiable sources, please.Thanks for the help, i do appreciate it.
>>43506390>Who's boot?Doesnt matter whos, as long as its shiney befor>>43506402e it kicks you in the bum
>>43506360You still haven't answered my question: does it concern you at all that all these uncountable migrants come from countries where it's considered moral to stone or kill anyone who would use this board?
>>43506402I posted for the lurkers, not you.Time for you to fuck off
>>43506441I don't know why you're so upset, but claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.Everyone knows that.
>>43506419I dont care, you're far right, you're opinion is immaterial and can be dismissed
>>43506405Why are you mad though
>>43506470No one ever won a debate by refusing to answer any questions and running away.
>>43506066It's clear what your agenda is when you refuse to tackle the push factors for immigration and insist the only option is to create a police state and a pressure-cooker situation at the door
>>43506470Everyone should be far right.
>>43506470>I dont care, you're far right, you're opinion is immaterial and can be dismissedHonestly, is there anything in the world you care about besides simping for foreigners?
>>43506098>regressive economic system that impoverishes the massesThe conservatives do that>attacks the disabledConservatives do that too>equates a hierarchy of human valueConservatives do that as well>uses scapegoats to delfect from human rights breachesEvery British party does this>>43506495The.youkay is already a police state and has been for a long while now
>>43502842voting's going to suck no matter what you do
