I don't think I can be trans
>>43518614Oh dear.If you're feeling pressured to identify as trans, take a step back and assess your feelings. Consider exploring your identity by reflecting on your thoughts and emotions. You might ask yourself: What are my reasons for thinking I might be trans? Write down 8 reasons that resonate with you.Next, weigh the potential advantages and disadvantages of identifying as trans. What are 5 potential benefits and 5 potential challenges that this identity might bring for you? By carefully considering these points, you'll be better equipped to make an informed decision about your identity and what it means for you.May your reflection bring you clarity and peace, and may you walk in harmony with your true self.
Well I don't know if you can, but you may
>>43518702>What are my reasons for thinking I might be trans?-I can't stop obsessing over it-I really hate that I am a man -The effects of estrogen are much nicer overall imo>What are my reasons for thinking I can't be trans?-Not actually dysphoric-Estrogen makes me feel substantially worse-I am not a woman
>>43518705If I could've, I would've
>>43518614me neither
>>43518812how does estrogen make you feel worse?
>>43518614my body just looks like a male body with tits on, and they hurt all the time, and i have a mans face.im struggling to see why i shouldnt just detrans for my own mental health and disassociate the rest of my lifebeing a man with boobs is like the most repulsive gender combination you could be. i actively made my life worse by trying to help my "dysphoria"
>>43520273>man with boobsthat's basically what a woman is tho
>>43520253I feel much worse about my body, my identity, my behavior, and so on and so forth. And that's still nothing compared to how it messes with my mind
>>43520273it sucks to say this but if you are already tranning out odds are going off hrt is just gonna make you feel worse down the line. I don't know you of course but I know that I've felt something similar and at the end of the day continuing with hrt is a decision that has made me happier in the long run. regardless of your decisions things will be okay some day in the future. you won't feel this way forever.
>>43520357for some people, myself included, there is a dysphoria spike when starting hrt, because you suddenly become aware of how much in your life has to change in order for you to truly be yourself. if this is something you relate to, this spike has to be pushed through. but take some serious time to reflect. if you find yourself being really mentally torn up about this, it is okay to stop for a bit. contrary to what this board says a break for a few months from hrt is not the end of the world. If that time is what you need to reassess that's okay. just make sure you're taking care of yourself throughout. and be honest with yourself as much as possible.
>>43520405I don't know if I can tell whether it's a dysphoria spike as you describe, or not.This isn't the first time I'm on hrt either, and at this point I think I developed a stress response just from thinking about stopping for a second
>>43520405i never found that taking a break helped. it will always come back, you jsut kick the can down the road and have to face the same feelings again later.
>>43520466if its not the first time you probably will keep coming back to it >>43520466ive heard mixed things. from most I hear that stopping hrt makes it very clear that they ought to be on it. for others they continue to wrestle with feelings. and for some they detrans totally. i guess I just know a lot of people.
>>43520535>if its not the first time you probably will keep coming back to it 4th time already, and I still feel like it's not right for me
Nah, you can.
>>43518812>I can't stop obsessing over itCis people don't do this>I really hate that I am a man>Not actually dysphoric?>>43520357>it messes with my mindThat happens when you're not consistent with your intake or your levels are badI think your main issue is that you have a lot of internalized transphobia
>>43522753>?I do hate being a man, but I hate it in a way only a man could hate it. Merely hating it doesn't make me a woman unfortunately
>>43523426real, i hate being a man but theres really no other way out, its like hating the way i look or the way i talk. thats just who i am. trying to do much to change it beyond a point just leads to severe hurt and desperation
>>43523426What are these things that only a man could hate?>>43520357I don't think estrogen itself changes anything about your identity and behavior, what do you mean by it making you feel worse about your body though?
>>43518812>reasons for being transvalid>reasons for not being transcope
>>43524431>What are these things that only a man could hate? It's not that only men can hate these things, but rather that I hate them in a male way>what do you mean by it making you feel worse about your body though?It makes me feel much more trapped within my own body, to the point that it's claustrophobic and suffocating
>>43525457I don't understand how you can hate being a man in an only male way, can you give some specific examples?You said you liked the effects of estrogen, so why does it make you feel trapped? Is it the limitations of the changes or do you actually dislike that it makes you more feminine
>>43525668>how you can hate being a man in an only male way, can you give some specific examples? Instead of hating being a man because it makes me too masculine and such, I actually hate it because I'm vain and greedy. I'm literally just a manchild blaming all of his mistakes and personal shortcomings on something completely arbitrary, instead of a woman in anguish>You said you liked the effects of estrogen, so why does it make you feel trapped? I do like them, conceptually at least. I think softer skin, less body hair, less body odor, female fat distribution and even breasts are nice, but they feel completely wrong on my body. I'm basically freaking out each time I'm reminded that my body is feminizing because I know that's not supposed to be something my body should be doing
>>43525885How is being vain, greedy and supposedly immature a male only way of hating being a man? If you hate the role and expectations of being a man rather than the physical aspect of it and would prefer having the role and expectations of a woman then I think that's still validIt sounds like you get gender euphoria on the physical side of things rather than gender dysphoria. Modern estrogen is bio-identical to naturally produced estrogen, your body reacts exactly how it should to having it in your body. I don't see how this is any different to a diabetic injecting insulin into their body because they can't naturally produce it
>>43526043>would prefer having the role and expectations of a womanI definitely wouldn't prefer that, because I won't ever be able to fill the role of a woman, nor do I believe that I'll ever get used to the expectations that come with it. I like being a man, cause it allows me to be basically invisible, which allows me to have my solitude even when surrounded by people>It sounds like you get gender euphoria on the physical side of things rather than gender dysphoriaI've never said anything about gender euphoria because I've never felt it myself. After all, it's not really possible to be "euphoric" about something which feels so fundamentally wrong. To be honest, I still have no idea what gender euphoria and dysphoria is supposed to feel like
>>43526082Ok, your answer to why you hate being a man still seems vague to me, but now you say you like it because people ignore you. What's the reason you say you can't stop obsessing over being trans then?
>>43518614what should be done with autism creatures who cant make it as either a man or a woman
>>43526370I am vouching for lobotomies>autism creature who cant make it as either a man or a woman
>>43526349>why you hate being a man still seems vague to meIt's still very vague to me as well, I won't lie. I really can't properly define what specifically makes me hate being a man so much. I just seem to have the preconceived notion that it's a curse I must bear>What's the reason you say you can't stop obsessing over being trans then?I lost the plot long ago, and now it's just this constant nagging feeling
>>43527361neeed this so bad
