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>QotT
Fantasy or Sci-Fi? Would you rather be a bold bisexual space explorer, discovering new worlds and romancing the alien inhabitants? Or a beautiful peasant boy (or girl or enby, you get the point) swept off his/her/their feet by a heroic knight, and taken on adventures of derring-do??

FAQ:
>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?
>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?
>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?
Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.
>What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual?
Only difference is that our flag is prettier.
>Am I bi if i have periods where I feel only attracted to women and others where I feel only attracted to men?
This is known as the bi-cycle and many bisexuals experience it.
>Am I bi or am I 'prison gay' or porn addicted?
'Prison gay' is not a real thing and porn addiction does not alter your sexual orientation. You are bi.
>Am I bi or pan if I like trans people?
Both are able to be attracted to trans people.
>I think I might be bi but I can't tell. How can I be certain?
Just make a point to check out members of the sex you think you might be attracted to and see if anyone grabs your attention.
>Should I be harsh on myself?
You should be kind on yourself. Few people will do it for you

Resource for Bisexuals:
https://biresource.org/
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>>43438787
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Bump:

How bout it gang? Would you rather have a tussle in the hayloft with a rakish bard, or get railed on the holodeck by a virile klingon?
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>>43518908
Near-future Sci-Fi has always been the coolest setting IMO. When it's not so far removed from the present day that it may as well be fantastical (like spaceship battles and shit) you get the chance to bounce ideas around with how the world could be like in 20 or 30 years or whatever. With fantasy you're much more restricted to medieval stuff and what not so there simply aren't as many different directions you can go with it.
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>>43519851
Yeah I think that's probably my favorite genre of sci fi as well. I've read a lot more sci fi than fantasy in general though. Clarke, Lem, and the Strugatsky brothers are probably my favorites. I need to read more contemporary sci fi- I liked The Three Body Problem triology quite a bit.

As far as erotic/romantic daydreams go, I think I might prefer fantasy. Getting swept off my feet by a handsome knight sounds great.
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>>43518908
>QOTT
Honestly it depends. Both genres can be compelling and fulfilling but both can also be dumb as hell. And often science fiction just ends up actually being a fantasy set in space.
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>>43518908
Dating myself but the Terre d'Ange series by Jacqueline Carey is one of my favourite all time series and probably what woke me up to being both bisexual and kinky.
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>>43518908
Scifi, better hygiene
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>>43518908
>QOTT
a tough one between the worlds of cowboy bebop and space dandy, and the world of beserk, elden ring etc...

I'll probably have to go sci fi sadly

>>43517994
I'm glad to help!
and glad to hear the routine has been going well
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>>43518908
I feel like I'm more likely to run into pervert-enabling situations and technologies in the sci-fi world, unless the fantasy one is both HIGH fantasy and horny
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>>43520514
I haven’t heard of the terre d’Ange series. Can you make it pitch for it? What about it made you aware of your bisexuality? Is it… spicy? D:

>>43520799
That, my friend, is an excellent point.

>>43520465
Do you like Ursula K. Le Guin? I feel like a lot of her sci fi is kind of fantasy in space, but in a good way.

>>43520851
Cowboy Bebop is so good. Love the show, and it’s such a good setting. I feel like it would be a great basis for a sci fi d&d campaign
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>>43521150
Hmm… maybe, but you’ve also got things like “the stocks” and chastity belts in ye olde settings. Sure a lot of that stuff is later Victorian era fake history, but we’re talking fantasy not historically accurate medieval times or whatever.

Also magic seems like it could enable all sorts of horny shenanigans lol
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I wish we had mind control tech why isn't this a thing yet? imagine making anyone into ur lover
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>>43521239
Literal nightmare world where mind control exists
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>>43518908
It really doesn't matter I just want magic or technology that lets women be fat as fuck without medical consequences
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>>43518908
Sci-fi would be cool as long as it's not cucked like our real world. I can only dream of being able to explore or go on adventures with a bf. Really hard to do that these days there's not much to explore and everything's a tourist trap or private property.
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>>43518908
>QotT
Fantasy, always was more into it. Fem top knight to bang me up sounds great
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is it still hypothetically bisexual if i'm only attracted to enbies

i mean like ONLY enbies i cant really get going with anyone else
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>>43521660
Non-binary isn't real so you're just bi
Hope this helps
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>>43521760
if they arent real then how do i keep kissing them?

how abt that you buffoon? you slink?
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>>43521660
no, thats called enbian I think
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>>43521184
cbbb introduced me to jazz and philosophy and only one of them gives me panic attacks but i'll let you decide which because it's funny
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>>43521184
>Can you make it pitch for it?
Alternate-history medieval Europe where the state religion includes a cult to the god of BDSM, essentially. The society has permissive views on sexuality, and believe all people are some degree of bisexual and that love and sex are holy. Sort of Games of Thrones vibes with the medieval court political drama and dense fantasy world building.

Sorta flipped a lot of switches for me in high school.
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>>43521954
Op here; you’re welcome as far I’m concerned!
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>>43521660
>I'm only attracted to women with strange haircuts and piercings, does this make me bisexual???
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Where is my bf at?
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>>43521954
You're attracted to a specific look on both men and women. You're bisexual.
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>>43523523
Here
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>>43523523
Haven't you raped enough trannies from 4chan Jorge?
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>>43523220
*as far as I’m concerned- sorry I was out drinking with my partner earlier when I responded to your post.
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Went on a date with a dude. Slipped up and he asked me with I'm bi, I replied and all chemistry died.

Tbh chemistry wasn't amazing prior to that but it seemed to be going fine?

Is this a common experience?
Felt kinda bad desu
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>>43525509
Asked me if I'm bi*
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>>43525509
Are you male or female? Just wondering if this would have been a same sex or hetero date.

It hasn’t happened to me firsthand, but I’ve seen a bunch of people on bigen report similar experiences. Gay people assume bisexuals aren’t really gay enough; or that we can’t be relied on for an ltr because we’ll eventually freak out and dump them for a partner we can have kids with. I’ve seen a bunch of bi guys here say they’ve had straight women turned off by them being bi, I guess because they essentially just see us as gay. I’m guessing straight dudes generally don’t care if women are bi, but I think that’s more to do with them being porn brained meatheads than anything else lol.

These obviously aren’t universal rules, but anecdotally yes plenty of gay and straight people dislike bisexuals. I’ve been lucky and only ever dated other bi people, so it’s never been an issue for me.
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Most bi guys end up with women. This is 100% because obviously most of the people who'll date a man are women but it's still something that gay guys have in the back of their minds when dealing with us. It took quite a bit of effort to convince my gay boyfriend that I'm serious about him. Like he was shocked when he found out I'd told people I was seeing him
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>>43522947
Oh that’s interesting. Is the idea behind the BDSM cult like it’s the elements of self flagellation in Christianity dialed up to 11 and made sexy?

Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll keep it in mind next time I’m looking for a fantasy series.

>>43521986
Lol yeah that really could go either way. The opening theme is pretty frenzied

>>43521535
A person can dream!

>>43521602
Exploring strange new worlds with your cute boyfriend is a very appealing fantasy. Preferably on a heavily customized spaceship that acts as your home as well as your mode of transportation. A window over the bed so you can look up at the stars while you cuddle would be nice too.

>>43521657
Good choice. Sir Mommy expects her squire chaste and compliant lol.
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>>43526066
I'm male, so it was a male-male date.
I probably should have questioned if he's okay with my being bi after he asked but didn't think about it at the time.
He said he's "100% gay", sounded like he's proud of it, so perhaps there's something to it.

He was looking for ltr and so was I

Well, onto the next one I guess

>>43526080
Surprisingly the two bi guys I know irl said their gay dates never had an issue with it. Maybe they got lucky I guess

Perhaps I should just put bisexual in my dating app bio
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>>43526224
>I probably should have questioned if he's okay with my being bi after he asked but didn't think about it at the time.
He said he's "100% gay", sounded like he's proud of it,
Yeah that sounds like he’s not into bi guys. Oh well, at least you weren’t vibing with him to begin with.

>Perhaps I should just put bisexual in my dating app bio
That would certainly screen out anyone who’d have a problem dating a bisexual, but it might shrink your dating pool quite a bit. I honestly don’t know how pervasive the anti bi bias is, so I don’t know how much having it listed on profile might impact things. I feel like people tend to be more judgmental and likely to make snap decisions when flipping through profiles on a dating app versus when they’re talking to someone in person. My point being that some guys might skip past your profile if you’re listed as bi, but if they actually met you irl it wouldn’t be dealbreaker.

I would definitely tell anyone I wanted to date long term I was bi. It’s pretty important to how I see myself, and I don’t think I’d get along with anyone who had a problem with that.
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For men I mostly just like twinks. A little body hair or a little fat is fine, but still mostly twink adjacent. On rare occasions I find big boys attractive.

For women I LOVE fat ones or at least solidly chubby ones. Slim women just look like stock images to me.

I would like to have kids but I hate the idea of adopting in a gay relationship.

I may be a turbo virgin who hasn't been in a real relationship, but which side should I go for? Get shunned for being "gay" or get shunned for liking fat bitches?
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>>43526336
>Get shunned for being "gay" or get shunned for liking fat bitches?
You're too concerned with what uninvolved people think. Do what's right for you.
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>>43526389
You're right I just wish I had a more socially acceptable option
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>>43526432
You could also get fat and then date a fat woman. People would say "Oh OK that makes sense"
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>>43526304
>My point being that some guys might skip past your profile if you’re listed as bi, but if they actually met you irl it wouldn’t be dealbreaker.

I'm worried about that too, especially for women.
My assumption would've been that it would reduce the amount of men somewhat but basically zero out the women lol

I'm not planning to keep it secret for a serious ltr of course
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>>43526448
I don't wanna be fat... I already work out :(

I don't wanna be fat simply because it's unhealthy, which is another thing to consider when trying to date a fatty
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>>43526494
Hmm… maybe try leaving it off your profile for now, and just tell people you match with early on you’re bi. Then if you keep running into people who react badly you can add it to your profile to pre screen the haters.

I’ve been in a relationship for years now though, so I’m not really sure what the state of online dating is currently. I don’t even know what the major apps are at this point. So maybe take my advice with a grain of salt lol
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>>43526530
Well, depending on the type of fat women you like, maybe you as a fitness guy could match with a strongfat woman, and then things would still make sense.
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>>43526636
I actually wouldn't mind that but I'd probably have to get absolutely shredded. I'm just a 6'4 twink with a sleeper build

I also don't know how I'd even find a strongfat woman. Feels insanely rare even at my gym lol
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>>43526686
Careful, she might just see you as a source of lean protein in her quest for gains
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>>43526686
>I also don't know how I'd even find a strongfat woman

You'd probably have to join a serious powerlifting gym?
Very different vibe from a commercial or body building gym I guess.

I was fortunate enough to have been with a 160/70kg amateur power lifter, not quite the same scale you're talking but she was sooo hot.

I just met her on an app, but alas she moved away
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>>43518908
why is every article on the bi resource site framed from a female-only perspective? only pictures of femmes, only femme celebs listed, etc.
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>>43526898
Nobody thinks bi men really exist
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Is pic rleated true?

I have heard that cis bisexual women always end up with straight cis men. If they find out that their bf sucked dick, they will leave him. Even if they claim to be bi.
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>>43526944
IDK my gf is bisexual, I'm bisexual, we're both mutually turned on by it.
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>>43526970
Same situation for me and my bi gf. She’s a big time fujoshi and spends a lot of her downtime watching BL dramas with absurd plots and hot dudes kissing. I pretty regularly catch her staring at me hungrily like I’m one of the boys on her shows lol. We’ve never talked about it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she’d enjoy watching me with another guy.

<3 Bi4bi
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>>43518908
Sci-fi because I want to cross lightsabers with Queer-Dong Jizz and Dontcha-Wanna Blowme
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>>43527133
Nice. My gf has told me straight-up she wants to see me with another guy. I want it too, just need to pull the trigger at some point (this summer maybe?)
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My one bi girlfriend was bpd incarnate and I'm pretty sure was cheating on me so I decided to stick to men
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>>43527328
Hell yeah anon, let us know how it goes if you do!

>>43527351
An SO with untreated mental illness can be really exhausting. Hope you’ve had better luck since then
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>>43527387
>Hell yeah anon, let us know how it goes if you do!
I will!
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>>43526944
It's strange that this is mostly a women (straight or bi) disliking bi men thing, while men almost never see it as a problem if women are bi.
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>>43528934
I mean I think this is mainly straight dudes excited about the idea of potentially getting to have mff three ways. I imagine a lot of straight men wouldn’t actually enjoy dating a lot of bi women though, because they’re less likely to conform to traditional gender roles.
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>>43526944
>I have heard that cis bisexual women always end up with straight cis men. If they find out that their bf sucked dick, they will leave him. Even if they claim to be bi.

I am a bisexual cis f and yes, this happens a lot. It's part of the reason only my closest friends know that I'm bisexual. To most people in my life I'm just "gay" or "queer". Some people probably assume I'm a theyfab, but I'm not.

I'm gonna guess around 80% (number pulled from my ass) of "bisexual" women are bisexual for male attention and to be "edgy" and "quirky" and are not actually attracted to women in any meaningful way and are often repulsed by male bisexuality. They're just bigtime hypocrites.
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Something about me just makes other people shun me. My whole life, school years up to adulthood. Something about me and the way I am gets me excluded from even the most low stakes social interaction. My vibes are bad. I don't know what it is about me or my personality. If I did I would change it.
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I met a girl recently at a sport I'm doing, but unfortunately we haven't been able to meet up much for it. At times she seems very interested and happy to text, while other times she doesn't reply for a few days.
At first I figured she just has an avoidant personality, but the more I think about it the more I'm starting to suspect that she is autistic, or at least has autistic traits - not just from her texts mind you, but her expressions, body language, our conversations etc.
I'm not really sure where to go from here though - on the one hand I had considered asking her out, but on the other hand I know that if she actually is autistic then dating her would probably be rough... I suppose I should just get to know her better first.
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Why am I bi but only attracted to queer people? This shit is basically forcing me to be gay.
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>>43531301
Same same. I'm cis f and date women way more often than men. Dating straight men is a pain in the ass, and very few bisexual men are out.
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I'm dating a gay man and I think I'm in love
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>>43532372
Congrats anon. First time?
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>>43532410
First man. I was married to a woman until a couple of years ago (I'm in my 30s)
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>>43532433
Congrats again. I hope he feels the same.
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did porn make me bi? i am confused.
>be me
>normal kid
>had my first crush on a female celebrity
>started having crushes on female celebrities around age 6
>started having crushes on female classmates as i got older
>hit puberty at age 13
>started having more crushes on female classmates and random women in my life.
>started having sexual fantasies about women.
>boobs and ass started activating my neurons.
>never had a single sexual fantasy about a guy in my entire life.
>never had a crush on a male celebrity or classmate in entire my life.
>started consuming porn around age 15
>started with images of naked women
>slowly switched to videos
>mostly watched vanilla porn but i preferred lesbian and solo female porn.
>never watched more porn than average. i would just watch maybe twice a week or so.
>be around 17-18
>discovered trans porn
>felt confuse at the beginning.
>started watching just because of curiosity, because LGBT stuff is taboo in my society.
>realize i liked it more than normal porn.
>chaser mode activated.
>started exclusively watching trans porn for a while. maybe 60% of the time and 40% of the time cis porn.
>slowly moved from trans women to androgynous guys and femboys.
>just happened naturally as i got femboy porn recommended to me as i watched trans porn.
>then at some point i was watching straight-out twinks. not even femboys.
>slowly moved away from mainstream porn sites as this shift was happening to different places (eg, discord, 4chan, different forums etc...)
>fast-forward a few years in my early 20s and nothing has changed.
>i am still attracted to women (both cis and trans) and very feminine and androgynous looking guys.
>it has been 6 years now.
>nothing changed.
>porn didn't sent me down any other rabbit hole.
>i never developed any extreme or unconventional kinks or fetishes from porn.
>initially i got bi-cycles, but overtime i found myself attracted to both men and women equally at the same time.
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>>43533310
>did porn make me bi? i am confused.
I didn't even read the rest of your post - porn can't change your sexuality, you were born that way bud
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>>43533404
well i know. but the issue is that i didn't like boys when i was younger. but i still had crushes on many girls. my attraction to boys is something that developed around age 17-19.
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>>43533774
That's probably not true, in all honesty. That's probably just the age your attraction became unavoidable.
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>>43533774
It was probably just dormant. I wasn't attracted to other dudes either until my early teens
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>>43533310
this is why you should NOT EVER look at porn. it will corrupt you, and cause mental illness </3
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>friend and I are both into somno but we're light sleepers and can't get anywhere before the other wakes up
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>>43533774
Yeah I didn’t really get that I was bi until college. I don’t think I’d been actively repressing it, I just hadn’t seriously considered it an option. It took meeting a guy and developing feelings for him to wake me up to the idea of being bi. There were a ton of earlier signs I recognized after the fact though.

>>43532372
That’s awesome anon- I hope it goes well! I am a little jelly if I’m being honest though xD

>>43530274
I’m sorry that’s been your experience, anon. Have you ever been able to sit down and talk about it with someone who knows you? Maybe you could try a therapist or possibly a lifecoach? Life coach’s seem pretty scam-y to me, but it might be possible to just get a vibe check about how you’re coming off to people, and some advice on how to improve that.

>>43531301
Most of the people I’m attracted to are queer. I can appreciate attractive hetero people, but there’s rarely much genuine feeling behind it for me.
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Goodnight bigen, sleep well <3
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>>43518908
Both fantasy and scifi are good enough I would just flip a coin.
>>43530274
Similar situation with vibes and lack of charisma killing me irl.
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>>43534519
Idk man I think the day I pay money to a life coach is the day I lay down on the railroad tracks.
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>>43534494
7.5mg zopiclone approx 1 hour before. You'll sleep.
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>>43518908
>Fantasy or Sci-Fi?
It's genuinely hard to pick. I feel like SF generally has more interesting concepts, cultural relevance, philosophical depth etc. But there is a lot of untapped potential in fantasy. It's sad that fantasy writers usually default to the same generic medieval setting and recycled LOTR tropes. If I had the attention span to write a genre fiction book, I'd write a fantasy novel influenced more by antiquity than by the medieval period. It would, of course, expound the virtues of brutal authoritarian rule and racial purity, and there would be a lot of gay stuff in there
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>>43533310
nigga do you really expect me to read all that shit (by you)
>>43533404
"born that way" is nonsense
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>>43533774
I am 28 and realised I was bi a year or two ago only
it was something I was repressing though since teenage years I think

>>43534519
>There were a ton of earlier signs I recognized after the fact though.
this is the funniest thing to me I think
looking back, it is so obvious that I was queer
from the things I liked, how I acted etc
I have a gay friend from school years (though at the time I didn't know), and he apparently always thought I was queer
so he knew before I did hahaha
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I've always known I was into guys, the question was always if I'm gay or not. Ultimately not a super important question to answer because I'm happy in my relationship
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>>43535295
>Coin flip
Good answer

>>43535610
Yeah I mean I’d probably never see a life coach, but it sounds like you could could use some advice about how you’re approaching people/the vibes you’re putting off. I’m not really sure who you go to for that.

>>43536786
Are you still in touch with your gay friend from school?
>there were signs
I remember there was this tall guy in highschool with pretty green eyes and an olive complexion. We didn’t really talk at all, but I remember always exchanging warm smiles with him and getting butterflies in my stomach whenever we passed each other in the hallway. You know, super straight guy stuff xD

>>43537549
Do you like women too? Yeah the label doesn’t really matter if you’re happy
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>>43536715
>"born that way" is nonsense
The alternative would be that it's a choice and/or decided by your environment. But who the fuck would choose to be gay in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran?
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>>43538154
My theory is that it works like this: everyone is bisexual -> people built more or less effective barriers around a part of their sexuality, thus becoming "gay" or "straight" -> for some people, those barriers erode or change over time -> most people literally cannot erode them in adulthood, thus giving the impression of immutable sexuality ("born that way")
my source for this is divine guidance, ancestral intuition, bibliomancy
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>>43538189
>My theory is that it works like this: everyone is bisexual
Complete nonsense; the world would look very different if everyone was actually bisexual deep down.
>my source for this is divine guidance, ancestral intuition, bibliomancy
Nevermind, you convinced me.
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>>43538250
>the world would look very different if everyone was actually bisexual deep down.
Uh, no. "Straight" people are not aware of their same-sex attraction. But they can be made aware of it, which is why there's so much social contagion going on right now. My theory explains this very neatly, much better than "born that way"
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>>43538273
In all seriousness, I think it's pretty much the same as with left-handedness. As being left-handed became more acceptable more people would report being left-handed, but with the curve representing left-handedness flattening out over time at 10-12%. I have no idea what the percentage of actual bisexuals are, but I doubt it's more than that.
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>>43538295
The world was actually better when we retrained left-handed people to be normal. They can't even use fountain pens properly, they need weird hand posture to cope, etc. I pity them



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