>>43520122
No you should drop this weirdo lol. You can certainly find better girlfriends than that whether they're trans or cis.
Actually, absolutely no offense intended here, but what this reminds me of is cis women online posting about some really obviously weird or shitty guy asking if it's okay or if it's their fault or something. Please for your own sake man up a bit.
As for whether someone is a genuine tranny or a basically just a creepy dude, I can't say for sure. Incidentally, this sort of thing is why even a lot of trans women attracted to women don't like going out with transbians: not because they have anything in principle against trans women but because of the incidence of weirdos and sex pests. No one wants to be inducted into someone's polycule unwittingly.
Idk, maybe ask some really basic questions about their dysphoria, about their opinions on transfeminism, that sort of thing because a non dysphoric political transitioner type will stick out then.

>>43520282
I mean she hasnt been that weird yet, the weirdo i talked about was the prev one.
This one kinda passes but has been acting a bit too dominant for my liking. There are dom cis woman too but ive never ever heard or seen one initiate dates. So its weird to me. She said she was very feminist, but the previous one i had claimed that too, and was 'misandrist' even while at the same time shitting on other trans woman for having 'cone tits' (she had them too but was unaware..).

But yeah havent spoken to her (new one) that much yet so i have no clue. Just dont wanna waste my time and money on another failure so im kinda doubting to break it off rn. But it might be a bit too hasty idk.

All trans woman ive met up until now either acted like total men and didnt even know the sifference between eyeshadow and mascara or acted like very effeminate gay men. Idk the way woman behave and gay men is both feminine but in a compketely different way. I like woman that behave like woman if you know what i mean. If i had other options i probably wouldnt even date trannys anymore. Idm if i even should still date them at all as i couldnt come with my previous one. Not even a aingle time. Even if we went for hours. Dick just does nothing for me and srsussy also doesnt. When i watch porn i always watch solo woman porn. I get turned off by anything else. So maybe i should just give up on dating alltogether idk

>>43520122
two transbian rapehons larping as straight in a row? you have terrible luck i'm so sorry

just go for cis women atp, st4t only works in extremely specific scenarios (two trutrans babytrans meeting online)

>>43520122
>Dating suggesting place and time is them treating me as a woman
Bahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahah

>>43520512
Wish i could, they dont want me. They want real dick. Trannys too, but theyre also optionless atleast. Until they cheat on you with a poly rapehon

>>43520527
it is? it's dating 101 for the guy to set up the first date

>>43520431
Yeah any trans woman who claims to be a misandrist or a strong GNC feminist or whatever is unironically just going to act like a weird guy. Misandrists in particular typically mainly hate trans men.
And yes I'm saying your current date is a weirdo as well.
And yeah it sounds like you should just date cis women if dick and srsussy both sound very unappealing to you.

>>43520527
Im also suspicious cause she called herself a tranny stereotype an because she called herself verse. Idk which one is verse and which one is switch but i dont want to be penetrated and i think its weird if shed want to. But yeah she was the only goodlooking option within 2 houra driving

>>43520582
Yeah but the weird ones usually dont pass and are ugly. She seemed to be quite the normie and most of the time normies arent pornaddict 4chan weirdos and so are normal people mostle. So im just being hopefull for this one

>>43520576
st4t is fucked because 90% of the time one of the people in it (usually the trans woman) isn't actually straight
if you cycle through options enough you can just cross your fingers you'll find a straight trans woman eventually

i say this as a straight trans woman in a st4t relationship, but it wasn't easy to get here

>>43520608
Verse means basically both top and bottom fyi. Don't trust any shemab who wants to go on dominating by penetrating anyone with "her" dick. As someone with bottom dysphoria I would not relate to or even trust non ops.
>>43520639
Passing is 90% genetics, and if you're genetically gifted, it only takes a modicum of effort being put into voice training and basic femininity. Passing itself is not necessarily enough.
Given the other indications you've listed I would not go on this date were I you. Not to mention that neither dick nor srsussy do it for you. Why even bother?

>>43520431
>one that doesnt look too bad and kinda passes
>cis man creep in disguise
>(she had them too but was unaware..)
>All trans woman ive met up until now either acted like total men...or acted like very effeminate gay men
>If i had other options i probably wouldnt even date trannys anymore.
>Dick just does nothing for me and srsussy also doesnt.
jesus christ, could you lay it on any thicker, chudster? you all have such an obvious cadence too, like
>There are dom cis woman too but ive never ever heard or seen one initiate dates. So its weird to me.
i mean i can practically see your grubby little chud fingers typing that out as i read it. i'm sure it's veeeery weird to you, though, you unsubtle insect!

>>43520661
How do yall do sex? Cause i cant imagine a good sexlife with a transwoman tbf. Strapping doesnt turn me on and makes me even more dysphoric bc of the realisation ill never have a real working dick that can ejaculate. When strapping i feel like a living dildo for her. I feel so dissonnected. Obv dont want a dick inside me either. I do plan to get bottom surgery but itll take years before its my turn. And even if thats complete i wont be able to use it like normal.

Frotting while touching her boob was aight for me but didnt really stimulate me that much. Same w dry humping.

Im thinking of trying bdsm atuff in the hope thatll make me horny. But i dont really like the idea of 'playing a role'. It feels so performative. But yeah im alightly sadistic so i thaught maybe whipping her a bit or something will turn me on. Idk. How do yall have a succesfull sexlife if i may ask?

>>43520748
Thx for explaining. Only reason im conaidering trans woman is bc theyre my only option. No cis woman have interest in me and even if they would id be scared of them leaving me for a cis man. All straight cis ftm relationships end that way.

So its either dating trannys or dating no one. My dream has always been having a simple life with a loving wife

>>43520758
my bf doesn't like strapping either because it makes him feel cucked, i honestly don't blame him, he's fine with just using toys on me otherwise though
when he gets bottom surgery we're gonna try out some sheaths, as of right now his dick is already big enough to fuck with but i don't get much out of it so it's mostly for him

honestly it's mostly just fingers and mouth stuff, we're both kinky so we just play into those a lot and things are generally fine. i don't know if this is worth noting? but i was a virgin before i met him so i don't know what cis dick feels like, but honestly i don't care because our sex life is fine as is

>>43520755
What? Idk what ur tryna get at. English is not my first language. Im just being real man its not like she can read this anyways.

>>43520821
>English is not my first language.
the glow is blinding

>>43520795
It's possible to get a wife who loves you back. Don't settle for less. It'll be harder though yeah.
>>43520821
Anon is implying that you're a right winger who's trolling with a fake story. Unfortunately this is all too realistic.

>>43520817
Damn he lucky with his length. I get what he means with feeling cucked yeah. It feels like ur being used and it makes you feel like a submissive basedboy. Just not enjoyable overall haha.

He must be very happy with u not knowing what ur missing about cis dick. What a lucky man.

I havent tried toys with a girl yet. Might try using that

>>43520854
??

>>43520904
Now the anon is pretending you're a CIA agent.

>>43520869
Ahh no my politics are so left they dont even exist in america lol

>>43520579
I wouldn't know, I only ever dated when I was still a gay dude

>>43520891
Oh huh this is me finding out you arent allowed to say sxoxxy b0xy on 4chan

>>43520904
you know playing dumb fails to be convincing when someone's already spelled out the meaning for your poor harmless esl soul, right? but spam some question marks on this one too if you need.

>>43520891
>He must be very happy with u not knowing what ur missing about cis dick. What a lucky man
i'm in the same boat, he had one gf in the past but never went past groping, honestly i fear him wanting cis pussy more. i haven't had bottom surgery yet either so we literally just ignore my natal parts and i hope my srs will end up being good enough
i honestly don't feel like i'm missing out on much, i've obviously thought about it before but he's really good at sex and i honestly don't think if he was cis he would've learnt to do so much

>I havent tried toys with a girl yet. Might try using that
i also like using toys on him sometimes, mostly just overstimulating him with a fleshlight, it's super hot

AFaBs are AFaBs
AMaBs are AMaBs

evidently... damn

>>43521006
Im a ftm fr ion know why u think im not lol. But i have more ion like about transwoman if ur wondering lmfao. Tehy never seem dysphoric about their voice which i find very weird as it used to be one of my most dysphoric points. One of my exes even seemd proud of her deep voice as she kept mentioning it herself and proudly send voice memos when she jusy woke up saying her voice sounded deeper than usual. Wtf. Apparently she noticed i disnt like itcas she randomly asked one day if i thaught her voice was too deep. I disnt want to hurt her so i said no but i shouldve just been honest desu. Maybe that wouldve made her finally voice train.

Idk if ur not used to ftms not treating rapehons like innocent angels but after having had to deal with my fair share of rapehons im gonna assume they are one unless theyve proven otherwise. Not gonna say thay to theyre face cause ion wanna hurt the good ones but ill be thinking it. My patience for yall is gone. Its 90% of the time either rapehon weirdos or annoying fem mean girl gays screaming about palestine as if its somw sort of quirky woke trend and the war hasnt been already going on for 100 years

>>43521104
bro are you making more typos on purpose hahahaha sure thing esl that's definitely how it works

>>43521007
If hes still with u hell prolly be fine with ur surgery. For me the hotness of a pussy is it getting wet and feeling soft and pink. So if itll look real and be soft and wet ull be good. Ive looked up a few srsussys and some look good and i could find hot if theyd get wet. But some just look really weird imo. Like theres no inner labia or clit and the hole looks like a gaping hole and isnt in quite the right place. Doesnt look tight.

I guess as long as ull pick a surgeon thatll make a realistic one that can get wet ur bf will probably love it and itd be about the same as cis pussy.

And if he doesnt want u anymore or something ud have plenty other transman options as all of us would be very happy with a gf that would be okay with us and not be dick obsessed lmfao.

Hope the best for yall! U seem nice

>>43521063
Unfortunately too many trans people these days are non dysphoric and also make little to no effort to transition. Of course they'll act like their birth gender. That doesn't make it impossible to transition. But it makes things dire in our community.

>>43521132
No i was just typing quickly as i wanted to reply to someone else. Speaking a dif language doesnt make ur spelling worse, it makes u have a less broad grammer. But u wouldnt know with ur american ant brain

>>43521160
yeah, i'm planning to go with Dr Bank, his results tend to actually look realistic
not self lubricating but PPT is soooo terrible with all its drawbacks

thanks you, i wish the best for you too!

>>43521191
we know bru, still chuddie

>>43521217
Ich bin das nicht fick deine mutter schwein

>>43521255
hehehe.... schwein

if i knew that a trans guy i was dating saw trannies as his "only option" and inferior to cis women id drop him, and i imagine most other trans women would as well. you should break it off for her sake you seem like an asshole.

>>43520122
Bro you obviously hate trannies so why should we respect you

>>43520122
Idk maybe you should man up and stop letting your dates bitch you so hard lil dood lol

>>43520122
show the texts dood, maybe you aren't properly asserting yourself

>>43520579
Depends on the century you live in

>>43523400
I mean dont transwoman dating transmen feel the same way? Lets be real we all prefer cis people

>>43523430
I dont hate trannies i hate rapehons actinng like men that treat me like a lesbian and make me dysphoric

>>43520122
as an ex incel cuck that went through the rocky relationship racket and currently drowns in 0 pussy, let me share my golden tips on how you can become just like me
>Ive already noticed the new tranny im going on a date with being kinda assertive/ dominant.
she can try to be all she wants, you've already been in a relationship so you're not in a rush to be in the next one. don't tolerate unreasonable shit and never tolerate disrespect, but don't react like a woman about it (I did, and I'm cism)
>Which i dont like.
good
>It feels like shes treating me like a woman.
or a pussy-whipped man, same difference
>She wont let me pick the location, and inaisted on picking it herself.
talk to her about why she offers her suggestion, if it makes sense or doesn't really matter, you can be ok with it. If it doesn't, you say that doesn't work for you, offer yours and that's that. Simple as. She can't force you to agree.
>She also asked me for my socials before i could even ask.
good, saves you effort and shows she's more interested, which is what you want in a foid-moid relationship since they're unloyal hoeflated retards otherwise
>I wanted to ask her that.
sure it gives you proactiveness points, but think of yourself as the high-status prize in this case
>but what if she the penised person just sees me as the vagina to be manhandled and conquered :(
you just act like a confident man that the woman is trying to win - don't tolerate disrespect from her, unless it's childish bratty stuff which you treat as adorable womanchild stuff
>She also decided the date time.
did she have a good reason? is her schedule a) packed with stuff that's higher prio than the date, or b) was it lower prio shit she could reschedule?
how's yours?
if hers is a and yours is flexible, sure. if b + it creates more hassle for her than a confident man would invest, you counteroffer and that's that, same as the location above

1/2

>>43520122
>>43525269
2/2

>I dont like her deciding and initiating everything, i want to do that part.
why aren't you?
I didn't mind mine doing some of that since at the time she had the more hectic schedule and bpdchild emotional reactions to everything and I was being the parentbf making a decent effort to make things less hectic on my daughtergf, but if there was higher prio stuff, she'd have to deal
>So im really scared the same thing will happen again and ill be seen and treated like a woman.
that's the cool part - you dgaf if things work out with this one, so you can just act like the 10x T (compared to her) man that you are (with strongly held boundaries that can be flexible when rational according to your rational brain, always in control of his emotions, and always confident in being able to handle himself and handle problems, knows how to not give her ammo), and if she's too uppity she'll crash herself out and disqualify herself in due time. Simple compatibility check, which is half of what dating is.
>Shall i just give up already and ghost or give it a try?
in your place I'd go, with this attitude adjustment (while ofc feeling positive and gregarious toward women, incelraging at them is woman behavior), and see if her juice is worth the squeeze. Remember, this is her opportunity to not disqualify herself.
>Any of yall have an easy way to clock if shes a genuine tranny or yet another creep in disguise?
For me it wouldn't matter - if she's compatible with me and can actually sustain behaving the way I want from my woman (complementing my personality, not taking advantage of me being civilized, the usuals), I'll give it a go. Currently not in a rush to settle down, so I can afford the weeks to a few months that usually has them show their horns.

>>43520608
Verse can be alright if she was only floating it to try to be more compatible with you, if she didn't know what your preferences are and is ok long term with doing only what both of you are ok with. If on the other hand she feels unsatisfied enough without doing something you're not into, it's simply an incompatibility, and if it's something that'll make her respect you less or treat you as less of a man (even if she says otherwise - watch actions more than words), that's a deal-breaker, simple as

>>43521255
Neat, you live close by if not larping. Yeah I can seem the germanoid tranners being more masc on account of the Deutsche Genetik and all. Get yourself a french or med one if available.

Same but I don’t like trans dudes because they’re creepy abusive pieces of shit who are never taught they aren’t allowed to pressure their girlfriends for sex and hit them. Trans guys can unironically get fucked so I don’t have that much sympathy for you at all, but my advice would honestly be to not go for explicitly t4t stuff because you’re more likely to get weirdos that way. Anyone seeking out trans people specifically is always sus imo, even if they’re trans themselves

>>43525269
>>43525277
im ngl as a tranny that does t4t ive been conditioned into having to take first moves a lot bc most trans men just dont for whatever reason even if theyre interested, so i usually suggest things more, but if a guy did this with me and took control i'd be very smitten. kind of hot to take control back away from me i hope someone does that w/ me someday.

>>43525876
>been conditioned into having to take first moves a lot bc most trans men just dont for whatever reason even if theyre interested
woman upbringing, nodick, manlet, trans so even less sure of self as man, it's an uphill battle unless they have a good enough supportive environment to become even more confident than your average cis man (to balance out all the debuffs)
that's really good that you're taking one for the team and helping the process. If you feel like it, you can try to help other trans bros (not your romantic interest most likely) cultivate the attitude I described, or any other that works
>if a guy did this with me and took control i'd be very smitten. kind of hot to take control back away from me i hope someone does that w/ me someday.
I'm sure you'll get that one day, nona. Plenty of guys out there that have gotten enough experiences under their belt to cultivate that attitude, both cis and trans. And for the borderline cases, on your end you can help by making it a bit more obvious when they do something you like, for the fellas that are still learning the ropes but aren't experts at reading the signs. No better feeling than your woman feeling better because of your masculinity.