>>43520857
Please don't phrase it like that if makes me feel like I'm a disgusting perv for liking to submit to my boyf

>>43520857
it's evolutionary
we have women's brains and all women want to be cherished and protected and cared for because we're naturally more vulnerable physically and emotionally

Why does prog make me feel this way so intensely?

i dont feel anything and my sex drive is nuked by hormones
i jusr want to cry in someones arms

>>43520857
It gets me so horny that it makes me hate my dick so much that I just want it to be smushed away and converted into the pussy I need to finally fucking feel whole. Fuck.

I don't want that, my body does
my body just gets the warm tingly feeling deep in my tummy when I think about it, it's so intense and sometimes it gets so strong that it travels all the way through my body and I feel all tingly and my face turns red and stuff
it's not my fault my body is like this

>>43520857
idk? my first sexual feelings were triggered by submissive thoughts, before any exposure to pornography or anything.

>>43520897
No, you have male gay bottom brains
kek

>>43520929
Same, this is going to sound autistic as fuck but my mom bought me a sticker book with all 150 pokemon in it, and one of the pages of the book had priginal artwork of a clefairy being engulfed by a grimer, and I just remember feeling arousal at the thought of being the clefairy

>>43520944
That is the same thing as a woman's brain lol

Lack of confidence in your ability to perform sexually causes you to fantasize about a scenario where you aren't expected to do anything other than not successfully resist. In fact, resisting and failing is part of the fantasy. It inverts the failure and turns it into a victory because you are so attractive that men overpower you and have sex with you against your will, in a way that satisfies them.

It's the same thing that made you trans, your discomfort with the male sex role.

>>43520857
I need an owner so badly, you know? Not even in like a sort of petplay thing, just someone to serve and love and be affectionate and give nice kisses and tell him he's the best and cook for him and make him feel alright ... and he reciprocates by pleasuring me, his cocksleeve, with a rewarding lay - as if is transactional, as if this is nature, as if I was born to be his and only his, as if it was wired in my brain for this to be my fate. Fuck, fuck, fuck I need a boyfriend eerrgggggghhhh.

>>43520966
I have had these same thoughts but about bondage. Like struggling and getting tied up and taken and failing, as you put it ... the struggle is a significant part in this ... a fantasy of mine since I was a kid even without pornography and didn't even conceptualize I felt incongruent with my body parts

I don't really intrinsically have a 'deep carnal need' for that, I can find that hot because it means I'm with someone I trust enough to give up control to, but I enjoy being a sadist who tops bigger men or taking initiative and 'topping from the bottom' as well.

>>43520857
yeah, degredation and submission are my fav thing. I think it's the contrast between the fact that there's a resistance there, but also the enjoyment. Being in that state of embarrassment and giving in is like undeniable evidence of how much i love it. Being made to give in is so good.

I think it stems out of my hypnosis fetish.

>>43520959
that's kinda cute actually. my weird thing was this ninja turtles toy my older sister had, it was a little glow in the dark turtle and 'slime' in a plastic barrel. my sister told me the slime made the ninja turtle small and that became a fixation. so autistic.

>>43520963
Then why don't homo bottoms transition?

kek

>>43520857
submission = being taken care of = passing on your genes and protecting your offspring

>>43520857
submission doesn't need to include degradation; I am not made lesser or corrupted by submission to a man, I am accepted as I accept him, cared for as I care for him
or maybe I'm a naive little slut, who knows?

>>43520978
waow...

>>43521271
This is cope. You are a little slut. Shut the fuck and bow to your man with his cock in your face as you round up the mental gymnastics of, "well ACTUALLY, we both see each other mutually." When he orders you to show him your ass, there you are doing as you're told. So yeah, naive slut who's a bit confused and larping as if she has any power in the bedroom. Should I call your man to remind you?

>>43520944
bottoms are famously female brained, anon

>>43521313
>not that nona but
i can never be equal to him, he's literally just better and superior to me in all ways that matter
i'm his stupid weakminded frail little slave girl and he is my owner and lord and master and my soul is fated to be always beneath him and in awe of him
i love how gentle and wise and strong he is that he can treat me as an equal in most matters but when it really comes down to it he reminds me of my place and i love him for it
being his property gives me such meaning and direction and purpose in my life i genuinely can't live without it

tl;dr i love being my husband's little slave girl

>>43520857
intense, all encompassing, never-ending self hatred

>>43520857
AGP unironically
this entire thread is AGPhons

>>43520857
my mom was beating me up as a kid. now I cannot talk to women and can only get aroused through submission. I cannot do penetrative sex, my only turn on are a woman humiliating me and feet. add to that I'm a 5'3 man, I'm completely denied any form of sex.

>>43521373
guess you gotta transition bro

>>43521371
is it bad to be an AGPhon? this sounds pretty fun ngl.

>>43521393
I know but I'm almost 30 with the most absurd build you can think of. and I don't want to end up a transbian hon.

>>43520857
>waaaaahhh im a dysphoric little shit
3 replies in 10 hours
>im horny and want to be fucked
20+ replies in 10 minutes

why is /TTTT/ like this?

>>43521371
>describe the most hsts thing imaginable
>"that's agp!!! you need to kill yourself because you have a typical female sexuality!!!"

>>43521333
Yet they don't transition
And women don't beg men for anal sex with gusto

They just wait for something to activate their autosexuality and extract resources

Homo bottoms want to be cared for like a woman is but they have waaay different propensities in terms of rampant buttsex and wanting sex for its own sake

>>43520857
could it be possible that I want to dominate a woman so badly that I become the woman? because as a repper, I would LOVE if a woman submitted to me and I pleasured and fucked her so hard and gave her everything she needed - but at the same time, I only enjoy doing so in so far as she is satisfied being my little cocksleeve and submissive?

>>43521371
>agp is when you want to have receptive sex with men

>>43521431
horny is a lot more fun than crying about dysphoria

>>43521471
NTA, but why 'yall getting triggered by the statement? this is AGP af not HSTS. OP didn't say it was about a woman domming them or not. there are submissive AGPs and submissive HSTS. clearly, y'all feel seen in this AGP fantasy and hate being called AGP. cope and seethe.

>>43521495
this is very obviously about men and has nothing to do with agp in any way

>>43521515
>Why do us trans women (yes, including YOU) have a deepset carnal need to be boyremoved, dominated, conquered and overall submitting to someone we have to believe is superior to us and deserves to claim us as their property?
>What is it about degradation and submission that gets us all (YES INCLUDING YOU) all riled up?

Where is there a he/him or a man in that post you inbred fucking moron! Women can be dominant too! Begone you AGP hussy!

>>43520857
I want to belong to a righteous White man as his property and third or seventh Plural Wife

>>43521527
why do agps hate us hsts so much?
just let us have our horny thread

>>43520857
Ever since I was a young kid like 3-4 not sure when it started but before school, I would always picture myself as the damsel in distress in media and such, not sure why but whatever, anyways the same way I think I got a bondage fetish. Don’t think it helped that school life I was bullied a lot for being a “poof” at some point I just kind of enjoyed the verbal bullying in a fucked way.

>>43521549
stop larping as an HSTS. You're clearly AGP. I am HSTS. this is not an HSTS horny thread because HSTS people don't identify with something so clearly AGP!

>>43521563
Girl same - but, like, I never saw me as a damsel in distress ... I just imagined them, usually my teachers, as being tied up and trussed. And yeah, like early childhood as well. I just liked seeing women tied up and I guess I liked tying them up ... but I felt way more pleasure being the woman ... idk ...

>>43520857
ur not wrong. fuck u.

>>43521595
I think that movie the mask is what started it lol. I kept picturing myself in that scene with the bomb where the love interest is tied up to a tree. Still haven’t found a bf who would tie me up though.

>>43520857
this is why trans women are just better. type this into 2 X chromosomes on leddit and they'll say, "nah, I don't need a man!" and all the cissoids go yuuuuuuppppp.

here, we are just such pure women that we will ingratiate ourselves with the most basic of female archetypes just to please, please, please be with a man. why - why can't cis men just appreciate trans women as the submissive beautiful loyal gems we are!

>>43521563
>Don’t think it helped that school life I was bullied a lot for being a “poof” at some point I just kind of enjoyed the verbal bullying in a fucked way.
lol in like my first week of highschool some big guy thought I was a fag and grabbed me by the neck of my shirt at lunch and shook me a bit to try to scare me. Except I kinda just giggled and it was awkward and he just let me go

>>43520857
It’s the feeling of giving up control for me. I’ve heard that people tend to be into stuff that’s inverse of how the are normally and in my case I’m usually having to be the responsible and reliable one in basically every situation in my day to day life. Be it with family or friends or whatnot. The idea of giving up control to a prospective partner and letting them do whatever they so desire while I’m barely able to put up a resistance is just so enticing. Either that or I’m just a weird faggot who wants to be tied up

>>43521651
OH MY GOD GIRL GTFO - yes same, Cameron Diaz! That got me. My scene was actually Batman Forever with Nicole Kidman. Except originally I was on the outside and observing and looking at her - specifically how her wrists were restrained, and her mouth was taped - as a kid, it just made me feel very aroused and bothered and hot, I also felt, like, in danger? I felt a palpable sense of danger as a kid when I saw that and it makes me think that when I was just a child I identified with the image of a woman so strongly that it just activated a sense of flight or fight that I've fetishized into bondage. But yeah, I was in danger whenever I saw scenes like that, yet I just took it as me being a perv

>>43521652
NO YOU CANT SUBMIT THATS PATRIARCHY YOU HAVING FUN IN THE BEDROOM MAKES ME ANGRY AND SAD - Freemind7654

because you have agp
normal women don't feel like this holy shit

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>>43521714
uh huh

>>43521714
this is an HSTS thread. cope and seethe.

>>43521654
Hot… I had bad gyno in the 7th grade despite being underweight, we had communal change rooms and my first PE day while getting dressed out of the schools sports uniform, one of my bullies groped me from behind and I’m not going to lie I did like it. Didn’t say stop or anything and he just called me a stupid poofta after.

I like the personal attention. Like, it feels really really good to be guided and given simple tasks and praised for completing them. It feels really relaxing to push against a boundary and for it to firmly push back. Secure. I know they're going to keep me safe. Not let me go too far. But what I love most of all is that someone cares enough to want to dominate me. Like, yes pleeeeease I'm yoooooooours. I want to be yours.

when I was like 4 I used to curl up inside an upside down laundry bin because it felt like being in a cage

>>43521733
>>43521734
i wish you fucking rapehons wouldn't larp as hsts it's disgusting

women don't fantasise about being forcefemmed, they like submission because of the dominance of the man, YOU like submission because it makes you feel like a sissy slut 'real' girl
boyremoval is just sissification bullshit in a new dress

>>43520857
It's a trend among the /tttt/ crowd but not literally every tranner is like this. I don't need to correlate being with my boyfriend with degradation or submission or any of that. Seeing him aroused is enough.

>>43521767
??? sissy? no ... slut??? WHAT. projecting?

we love to be dominated by men because MEN deserve to dominate us, you fucking moron. It is about the dominance of the man.

being dominated by men is a common carnal female desire.

>>43521767
t. bitter agp rapehon

get over it, hsts girls love our husbands

>>43521804
this is malebrained.

>being dominated by men is a common carnal female desire

didn't Ethan Klein say this with Joji in the background in that podcast with Post Malone back in 2017? douchebag men only believe this. you're a AGP male. sneedhon.

>>43521810
NTA, but real women don't overfetishize being dominated because its icky and because women who have actually dated men know how creepy men can be. submission is all cute till y'all deal with a chaser ...

>>43521804
my master owns everything in the world but i'm smart enough (not really due to my own doing, he just has brainwashed me) to know it and submit to his rule and my soul does it regardless of what the rational part of me thinks about it

>>43521804
>>43521810
now you're just projecting onto me

i love my bf because he's a hot, masculine guy, i don't need to be stripped of personhood or get humiliation from playing a female role to like him

if you like men only because they make you 'feel like a woman', or you derive humiliation from being forced to be a woman, or if you want to be reduced to nothing but a vessel of 'feminity', then you're meta attracted agp

>>43521673
I have a lot of shame about it still but I think it’s just religious cult upbringing coming into it.

>>43521841
idk about you but my master is a good man who deserves to own me
i'm sorry if you've had to deal with bad and unworthy men and it has distorted your view on regular female sexuality

>>43521860
you're coping and bitter about having a man that can't satisfy you and you decide to take it out on your sisters

>>43521852
>this thread isn't agp though!!!

>>43521874
the bible tells brides that her husband is her head
traditional female sexuality has nothing to do with some idiotic buzzword a canadian gay pedophile invented to pressure trans women into letting him rape them

>>43521874
blanchardism is such retarded brainrot

>>43521873
>you're coping and bitter about having a man that can't satisfy you and you decide to take it out on your sisters
lol my bad i can be satisfied with a normal fucking relationship dynamic without larping the most malebrained view of femininity

>>43521867
I had a lot of shame too. I though I was like a serial killer or something. But damn religious cult? You must be going through it girl.

>>43521898
>>43521900
>brainrot
this fucker is talking about how they submit to their 'master' and don't think for themself but you throw a sissy fit because i said the big bad agp word

>>43521901
this response is making me sad :( why can't us dolls just enjoy a little sadomasochism without mfers like you calling us the most clocky rapehon faggots ... I just want to be cuddled and touched and recognized as me ... :(

>>43521917
idc get a trip or something so I can filter you already

>>43521926
why are y'all trans bitches fighting ... don't fight girls ...

we all in this together ...

>>43520857
idk i only like a little bit of dom stuff from a guy. in the bedroom its not bad but irl it just gets weird. stuff like "make me a sandwich" is fine and ill listen to that but if he starts telling me what to wear then idk im out.

It's bcs ur male, and men have an innate need to be part of a hierarchy. It's long understood that men want to be at the top of the social hierarchy, but this is only part of the picture. Some men want to be alphas, but some men want to be betas or omegas as well. Sigmas must be rare in order for the system to work, which is why male dominance hierarchies don't apply to women: most women would be sigma.

>>43521922
because you're larping like this is somehow normal female sexuality and not a perversion of straight male sexuality

i like tying up my bf and getting him needy because it's hot seeing men like that and hur durr men are people too and not just faceless vessels of masculinity so you can feel more feminine

>>43521960
>The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't

>>43521960
unironic alpha male hierarchy posting in 4tran is horrifying.

>>43521960
thanks jordan peterson

>>43521961
what's wrong with using another being as a vessel for exploring your femininety? isn't that the whole point of sex? do you not like sex? do you not like a fantasy?

Also, you don't have a boyfriend. Show pics so I can imagine him topping me :)

>>43521901
your relationship is okay and valid but you don't have to devalue your sisters' relationships
you're throwing stones in a glass building

>>43521917
i think for myself and my faith is clear about what my relationship with my husband is like
i just have a traditional marriage because i'm a traditional christian woman
you don't need to have the same kind of relationship as me, diversity is what makes life worth living
just stop hitting your sisters

>>43521961
i love my master's face and it's burned into my soul
i love him for being such an interesting and principled man with whom i love talking about philosophy, history, his military training (that's really hot i love that he's a warrior who's trained to protect our people), anthropology, local affairs, politics, science etc
he's not some faceless vessel who's just affirming my womanhood
he's my lord and master and i love being his forever

I like it when a guy pins my me down and no matter how hard I try I cannot break free, so I'm just stuck being his weak faggot and feeling powerless against him

>>43520857
>84 replies
sex sells.

>>43520857
submission is just more passable than being dominant.

>>43522233
Submission can circle back around and turn into being dominant when you have partners that don't satisfy you, so instead you take out your submissive desires on someone else. At least for me lol.

>>43521174
some of them do though

>>43521440
this isn't even close to being the most hsts thing imaginable and you need to learn what meta-attraction is

>>43521681
niggas really will troon out and not even consider the implications on the new in-groups they become part of (if they r passoids), classic. I hope you die of giga super turbo chaser aids

>>43520857
Well, we face degradation and oppression from really all sides in our daily lives, so I think it's natural for that trauma to manifest in sexual ways. Also, like the other anon said, we the minds of women, similar mentalities, so we're naturally and socially inclined towards submissive sexual roles. I also think since we're trans, we're even more vulnerable of a demographic and therefore it feels nice to have someone who is big and strong to stick up for us and to say they love and care about us. My boyfriend is cis and there's something very special about that, in my opinion. I'm just a boymoder, but he sees me as the woman I want to be and he cares a lot about trans people over all, so when he says he loves and accepts me, being a cis person, it makes me feel a little bit more accepted. Like, wow, one of them would really love me? It's dumb but it's how I feel sometimes.

>>43520857
idk i just like the idea of a boy picking me over other people and wanting to stay with me and yap with me forever and raise a family together …

>>43521966
>>43521985
>>43521993
We tend to associate the "sigma" with wolves due to the myth of the lone wolf. While it's true that sigmas are close to wolves in many ways, it is also true that wolves are highly social creatures and only form hierarchies in captivity. The same is true of women. While women tend to socialize more, they are ultimately more independent (oftentimes doing cooking, cleaning, education, and work for themselves rather than under familial obligation, and not forcing someone else to do the work for them). Women oftentimes are able to live together in peace and delegate tasks and responsibilities in egalitarian manners because they recognize the ego of one another and counter intuitively, form functional cooccupation units.

Men, on the other hand, actually have highly developed biological and social systems that specialize them for different roles in society. These systems exist in women but are dormant or only partially active because they lack the hormones that power them (androgens). Men with fully functional androgen systems can immediately tell when another man is an alpha, a beta, or an omega and communicate that role through the typical male activities such as handshakes and wrestling. While these sometimes seem violent or excessive, they actually are biologically necessary for males to engage in and enjoyable for all parties involved - omega males enjoy being at the bottom of the hierarchy, while alpha males enjoy being at the top.

Betas actually enjoy their position too, as they can be dominant towards omegas at times, or submissive to alphas, and sometimes exist in more complicated arrangements. This doesn't mean that their lives are without anguish in the system, but that their needs are all ultimately met peacefully.

When men are prevented from homosocializing in this way, societies become more warlike and violent and oftentimes collapse due to the excess of male physical enthusiasm.

I have never gotten to do degrading rp because I am afraid of seeming not nice but yeah trans girls seem to like hearing how you will pin them down with your strong hands and use them for pleasure. Falling asleep together cuddling rp is my favorite though

>>43520857
being a moid is too much work and extremely dehumanizing because we are expected to be unfeeling walking breathing atm machines

>>43522796
meta-attraction is not a real thing and it's a bullshit buzzword used to shame trans girls who love men invented by a gay pedophile who used it to rape trans women and underage girls

>>43523966
we just want to feel safety and pleasure with a man who'll own, protect and take care of us

>>43520897
spbp

>>43520857
No, not me. When someone is weak it turns me predatory and I have to physically restrain myself from obliterating whoever sets me off. Unfortunately I only seem to attract other dommes so I haven't had a chance to truly appreciate someone else's vulnerability

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>>43520857
idk, I just want a cute strong white guy to force me to suck his bwc. I want to be his, I want to be loved and held and cherished.

>>43524759
even if it were a real thing straight people have it in the other direction so it doesnt negate being gay/trans at all, which is why its stupid and meaningless

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>>43526889
You are included. No escaping this whore.

>>43526869
truthnuke

>>43520857
its normal women's sexuality. Being vulnerable and trusting the partner. Its hot not only sexually but like spiritually. I'm fine with vanilla stuff, nothing too hardcore.

>>43521823
It's a scientifically proven fact, but for some reason you are not allowed to state it publicly

We are women, we were made to submit :3

Everyone is talking about female sexuality but what does it mean when you’re a woman and repressors flock to you and act submissive to get your attention

>>43529273
you might have a strong, confident, nonjudgmental aura

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>>43529584
Cute.
One wore a dress for me and showed me but got sad when I didn’t really show a response. I thought it might be embarrassing because (s)he got shy showing it, so I tried to brush the picture off instead of drawing attention to it. Very clingy towards me too.
Trans girls can be very cute. After that experience and lurking more here, I can spot a repressor pretty well and I think their submissive antics are adorable. I had a lot of them bring up "what it would be like to be a girl" and when I tried to describe the "type of girl" I think they’d be, they got very happy. I hope they pursue happiness

>>43520857
being the dominant and leader type is tiresome and exhausting when it goes against your nature, letting go of it feels freeing and good.
>>43520927
>my body just gets the warm tingly feeling deep in my tummy when I think about it, it's so intense and sometimes it gets so strong that it...
same happens to me

>>43521431
hornyposting takes your mind out of the dysphoriaposting, to me (can't speak for other obv) hornyposting gives me the idea of the possibility of being loved, that it is not over yet, that one day i'll have someone to see the woman in me, even if she is deformed and ugly. i just hope i can be loved.

>>43520857
this thread makes me so horny - fuck. We're all just a bunch of bitches thirsty for a strong man - smart, handsome, nerdy, cute, whatever - just a man, a guy, someone to hold us, hug us, nurture us and treat as we deserve.

>>43520857
>boyremoved
Hard to take away something that wasnt there to begin with