>someone who likes and supports MtF trannies but doesn't really see them as women vs >someone who 100% fully sees MtF trannies as women, but is extremely transphobic and hates them precisely for being shallow self-centered retarded foids
>>43533803the first one because even though they don't see us as women, they're atleast trying to help to a degree.
>>43533803The first guy
>>43533803for the first one, the "really" adds an infinite amount of variability so i don't think an answer can be given on that basis
>>43533803depends, the second group will be fought by any feminist because their hatred is rooted in misogynyso an individual like that will likely, eventually, be defeatedwhile the first group is less likely to be stopped, and lead to more damagebut if we were asking about a society as a whole, i feel like the second would be much worse, since that means both trans women and cis women will be crushed under that society
>>43533803the 2nd group is objectively worse but this board likes to feel validated by misogyny
>>43533803i wouldn't say i'm a woman either, so i don't mind the first guy (especially if he's willing to fuck me)
