i am a cis man on hrt
>>43539692Im a white boymoder who uses her snow bunny seduction on innocent black men
You don't look like that
>>43539692i dont know what i am
Hello cis man on HRTI'm considering becoming a cis man with FFS if I get enough money for one
>>43539692Hi cis man on HRT how are you?
>>43539692do you have a faggy fem voice or no
>>43539708i can only imagine steve irkle whenever i hear the phrase “innocent black men” desu. but regardless, get that bag, sis>>43539718who said i did?>>43539720zased. you have to lose yourself to find yourself>>43539750right on, anon. i also want to get ffs after i get clavicle reduction
>>43540260How close are you to getting clavicle reduction? It's something I want really badly but I think I might need upper rib reduction first.
>>43539754i’m doing well, actually. a bit sleepy but i’m alright, thank you for asking. how are you?>>43539771depends desu. i do vocal stim sometimes but i do try to speak in a higher tone on most days
>>43540333I'm on the last day of my vacation with my bf and mulling over some thoughts. Dealing with a lot of contradictory thoughts and still trying to smother AGP sometimes even if it's very clearly there.
>>43539692Being a cis male on HRT is beginning to conflict with my progressive values. If I hold trans women to the same standard as I hold myself many of them aren’t women either and that makes me feel bad. Cis man on hrt, have you dealt with these feelings?
>>43540260thats the thing im so lost
>>43539692I love having something to look forward to each monday. Thank you cis man on hrt
>>43540372Yeah lol I just reason that this quality of over-self awareness and unwillingness to identify with femininity is on its own indicative that I am not a woman
>>43540701Whereas trans women have no such aversion, that is, and that carries some degree of weight
>>43540701I think it's being more self aware than the average hon without acquiring the socialization of girlboss twinkhons and passoids that causes it
>>43539692Is it really possible to get a waist like that without sacrificing one’s hips and thighs?
>>43540898rib reduction
>>43540944Aw man, my bank account can’t handle the pain :(
>>43541029yeah :(
>>43540332>>43540350i’m still a few thousand and a doctor away xd. i’ve been thinking about going to the same doctor as that one tranny whose post went viral a while ago but still not sure desu. also i’m sorry you’re feeling that way… i hope your day improves at the very least:’)>>43540372>Cis man on hrt, have you dealt with these feelings?not really. i see myself less as a tranny and more of a weird eunuch thing desu>>43540375me too but that isn’t going to stop me from trying to find a way out one way or another. you should keep going as well. it isn’t over until it’s over>>43540496you are very welcome
>>43542465Dr. Leif Rogers? His clavicle reduction stuff is like $40k. I had a consult with him. Overseas is much cheaper (like half the cost even with travel) but has its own issues ofc.
>>43539692what kind of haircut should a cis man om hrt get
>>43542465I can't help but see a woman in you
>>43539692How much HRT you can take before you are a tranny?
>>43542492>$40kyeah, definitely looks like i’ll be saving up for even longer lmao. still, between going overseas and paying that amount, i think i would have to go with the latter>>43542504shoulder length if you wanna go with that softboy look imo>>43542572not the first time that’s been said to me desu. but i am curious as to why you see me that way?>>43542598i will never be a tranny
>>43544879This is why I'm gonna try and insurancemaxx. If that Kaldir fella can get her ribs fully covered by insurance I can probably get shoulders maybe covered. Would also maybe help since I have chronic shoulder pain and this might serve to help fix that.
same i just really wanna kill myself tho
>>43544879>i will never be a trannyJust asking
>>43544910jesus, i’m sorry to hear about the body painalso is the insurance thing actually viable? i’m kind of tempted to try>>43544992don’t die on me>>43545031>just askingif that’s the case, then…i have no idea desu. i feel like i’d actually know if i were a tranny
>>43544879I don't really know why I see you that way. You definitely don't give off male vibes
>>43547691I agree, I think op is kind of a girl at heart...
>>43544992very cis behavior
>>43546644I think if you get a good plan from a blue state then maybe
>>43548519Op may be a girl but I'm not. I am cis male to the last artery.
I am a cis male starting HRT in 3 weeks
I am a cis? male starting HRT whenever I can psyche myself up to do it
>>43549132Happy for u nona
>inject girljuice into my ass>crawl back into bed and dissociateanother great day being cis
>>43539692We already heard.
Whenever I scroll past these threads I picture in my mind that you are very beautiful and I wonder if you are into men.
>>43542504Long twintails
currently recovering from light ffs. fingers crossed.
>>43549466My past year summed up in two sentences
Does doing saw palmetto and mirifica counts?
>>43547691>>43548519cute idea but alas i, too, will remain a man>>43548540>tfw stuck in canadasad>>43548548i am a man just like you are>:(>>43548916based? it’s always nice to see a fellow cis man
>>43549132you can do it, anon, i believe in you>>43549466i sleep in a big bed with my wife>>43549486and you will continue to hear it until i am no longer cid or on hrt>>43549543flattering, but yes, i do date men>>43549651grats on the ffs. who’d you go to?>>43549961yes, but i am taking estrogen
>>43551878Do you like being a cis man?
>>43551904>who’d you go to?the usual tranny clinic in istanbul, turkey.there I also found out just how many of us really are. the dr that operated on me told me most of his patients aren't trannies but various versions of hrt femboys. apparently i was the most feminine patient of his this year so far lololol.
>>43553067>various versions of HRT FemboysI think that's just what happens when trannies are oppressed enough sociallyThey pivot to HRT Femboys because they're not allowed to be womenSee basically every "third gender" around the globe
>>43553067help me out, what clinic is that? is it good?
>>43553121sure, that does play a role. But being a tranny in turkey is mainstream, hrt is otc and employment discrimination is way lower than in supposedly liberal countries. And half of the customers are turkish citizens.Anyway, how did the vacation go? :3>>43553157https://acibademinternational.com/facial-feminization-surgery-in-turkey-why-its-a-top-choice/I will know in a month or two if it was good for me. Likely yes but I'm also not the perfect customer to ask since I chose lighter procedures (with 99%+ likelihood of success) as my goal isn't to pass as a woman all the time.
>>43553222Vacation went well but my libido was in the tank for some reason so no boyremoval just yet. Starting to wonder if I'm just sexually broken. >.>
>>43553238>my libido was in the tank for some reasonbecause you're on e lol that's what it does
>>43553250No it was more in the tank than usual. Like today it's back. Maybe it's just stress.
>>43553222what procedures did you do?
>>43553238>no boyremovalunfortunate>Maybe it's just stressIt sure does play a big role. performance anxiety is real.>>43553274trach shave and jaw contouring.
>>43553342also I'm just a massive bitch and I turn everything that could be hot into something funny because I'm terrible and have used humor as my coping mechanism for everything
>>43553385heh, you sound like me a year ago.you'll be fine as long as you persist. find something that makes you relax from time to time. get your brain accustomed to being relaxed too.
>>43539771not op but microdosing e made mine stronger and harder to mask but i think i can still mask it sometimes. anyone else?
>>43553487nta but giwtwm.e made no difference on my voice. I want a faggy voice :(
>>43549961when i was younger i used pueraria and it was stronger than the e i take today. i later tried it again and it was weaker. i think i was either more sensitive bc i was younger or it really depends on the brand or batch or smth.
>>43553487Oh this happened to me. I think it's because it's something to do with not having the antiinflammatory properties of testosterone?
>>43553487e does nothing to your voice larper
>>43539692Boob growth status?
>>43552162i’m mainly indifferent to it, but i will admit that i do find it insulting when people try to force masculinity onto me>>43553611still nominal, nipples have been pretty sore, though
>>43539692Not really, nonbinary at minimum.
>>43553502really you want one? im insecure abt it. well i like my voice best when its soft and airy but i dont consider that my gay voice even if others might, the gay voice i dont like is when its nasally... sometimes it gets like that and i cant do anything about it. thats the annoying gay voice i think but when its soft and airy its nice and i like it.>>43553515im not sure. i think its partly psychological like testosterone makes your baseline voice register lower and more dominant and from the chest and also more monotone which matches the mental shift>>43553596so wrong. its not physically changes your actual anatomy of course but its changing how you use it, the baseline register and all the other stuff like emotions, musicality, expressiveness.
>>43555637>really you want one?yes. I'd take a faggy voice over my current one. I sound like an authoritative radio voice. Very very masculine. It's pleasant, but it doesn't fit with how I view myself and how I look nowadays. I'm confused for a woman half of the time for crying out loud. I really need a softer voice, even if it sounds faggy.
>>43555637The thing is I had a gay voice growing up that I trained out of me, then it came back after quarantine (probably lack of socialization), and then HRT seemed to tighten up my throat? I've had weird health issues on it. Autoimmune and headache stuff. It does also drop again on prog.
>>43555637I really like my gayvoice actuallyI need to voicetrain but my voice is already pretty androgynous and I stopped trying to suppress my natural voice when I stopped repressing, which was a big reliefanyway I just like that people hear my voice and know I really like dick
I am a cis male not on hrt
>>43556082cismoid let me force fem u
>>43556149I will be killing myself fairly soon instead.
>>43556231Seriously, why? And if you have nothing to lose anyway why not try that one medication you refuse to take
>>43556252Its genuinely less shameful to rope
>>43556403It’s really notAnd I’m not sure why you hang around a bunch of trannies all the time if you think it’s so shameful
>>43556507Im genuinely incredibly lonely and have nothing else going on
>>43556528There are many other, more regular places occupied by lonely coismoids with nothing going on
>>43556403what exactly do you find so shameful about it?
>>43556580The core concept of exchanging your hormonal balance to be a faux-female or a non-male.Utterly humiliating and my self esteem is already very low.
>>43556538I'm there as well
>>43555780it sounds like you have that booming resonance, probably a really hearty voice, deep and bellowing. if you want it to be softer you have to do the opposite of what guys do to sound authoritative, instead of talking with your chest, move your adams apple up and back and talk with your throat and jaw and tongue, using your chest only as support for texture. i think your goal is totally achievable but i also think its best to be comfortable with however your voice feels natural like i only ever "voice trained" to to try to sound more manly and straight but its impossible to force forever and i remember when i was able to stop worrying about my voice and talk softer it was a sign i was comfortable and trusted the people i was around.>>43555852>The thing is I had a gay voice growing up that I trained out of me, then it came back after quarantine (probably lack of socialization) and then HRT seemed to tighten up my throatsame! i think i know what you mean with the tightening throat too had weird health issues on it. >Autoimmune and headache stuff. It does also drop again on prog.thats scary so you went off and got better? and i wonder why that would happen with prog..>>43556001lolthat helps with my insecurity>>43556231please dont :(you have cool energy, i like seeing your posts.>>43556594im not going to pinkpill, but for me its not about changing myself, and thinking of it that way stresses me out, but thats why im here in the cis male on hrt thread and not any of the trans threads or gaygen threads. i just find that it helps me feel better and be more myself, not changing myself into something im not. but i still come to this board, which means life isnt perfect of course. thats because being a cis male on hrt or cis presenting hrtwink or whatever is a weird way to live and its nice to not be alone and have others to share and relate with. maybe you just need to find people you get along with preferably irl where you dont have to change yourself
>>43556594please at least give it a try cismoid i believe in you
>>43553222pls give an update when the swelling goes down, cheaper ffs would be worth it for me, i also dont care about passing too much and id like to pass it off as "oh i just had some work done" than have it be obvious im trying to look like a woman
>>43539718Yes she does
>>43558725>id like to pass it off as "oh i just had some work done"that will be the way I put it for my closest friends.for everyone else I won't even admit that. just like I don't admit that I shoot up girljuice.normalfags really like the estrogenized fag (me) as long as they only know about the fag part. so I'm not gonna change that.what i can say so far is that the pain is way lower than I heard trannies describe.
>>43539692You're enlightened
>>43557406Prog is an immunosuppressant + anti-inflammatory and also reduces estrogenic activity to an extent. It's also a mild androgen.
I am a cis man on hrt and I fucking hate testosterone and resent that my body made me take it for so long
>>43560509me too <3 when did you start hrt nonny
>>43560523A couple months ago at 29 unfortunately
>>43560545I hope you find happiness
>>43560627Thank you snoymoder I hope you have a long and happy life as well
I'm 22 and 5'6 but i will never start hrt until i'm like 47 ans then do it briefly for 2 months and fucking rope immediately after.To be fair nothing good awaits me in life even if i were to overdose on esteogen and get 2 million dollars worth of surgery
>>43560715Cismoid pls love yourself
>>43560736Never brcause to be loved you must first be loveable
