clearest example i can think of that the anti trans movement had no traction until just a few years ago: despite all the misogynistic harassment brianna wu received during gamergate, i don't remember seeing a single instance of trans misogyny. i don't think people even knew? i definitely didn't, and if they did they just didn't give a shit. obv shes a weird zionist now so i'm not trying to defend her, just showing an example of past indifference i wish we could return to
I agree with your larger point re: progressivr backslide but i think this is a poor example because I definetly remeber people being transphobic to her
>>43548183i mean shit people were transphobic to ann coulter
>>43548190yeah exactly, i remember people saying she was ugly or looked weird/mannish but i dont remember anyone actually saying she "was" a man or deadnaming her
>>43548190Lmfao, they really were
>>43548180i mean she kind of turned being the BASED TRANNY into her entire brand
>>43548226eventually yes, but at the time she refused to talk about it
>>43548180Gamer gate wasn't just about feminism. It was also about journalists being shitty and taking bribes. The explosion on the topic and shelling point was to move the overton window and get journalists back on track to being "real" journalists. Imagine a world with more Hunter S Thompson's and less Nick Shurley's. The anti trans is wrapped up in government funding packages and also had ties to slush funding. >Doge enters the chat.>Doge uses butcher knife and rusty tweezers to attempt to remove massive cancer.>Doge hired a bunch of techbro teens who proceed to slip the knife around in the patients spleen and fuck up the left lung.>Fuck.png>We all find out that the funding is more permanent than expected and requires surgical cancer removal.> Doge pulls out funding slush. Slush is attached to humanitarian aide. >Doge says fuck it and gives up. No more cyberpunks for future games, sorry. It's too hard now. Especially without bribes and bloated studio budgets. > Forward to now. Marathon is total shit show. Gaming does merge here. we can argue how great affirmative action is for Asian students and how ending the slave trade is what ruined Africa's economy. That's liberalism right? Abundance of power grabbing and gibs.
>>43548343>believing that game "journalists" were ever journalists in the first placeThey always existed to sell games, you just ignored real journalists because you like video games lol>ever believing doge was sincereYou really believe anything /o/>some video game being bad is a political issueJesus christ lmao
>>43548183The whole reason people knew she was trans back then was because gamergaters dug into her past and found high school photos I think. Especially on the /pol/ gamergate threads it was often brought up I believe. On the other gamergate spaces I think they tended not to be transphobic about that or to even mention it really, they were more inclined to point out that Wu was aggressively trying to shoehorn herself as being a part of the controversy.
>>43548180in the gamergate days literally nobody cared that brianna wu was a tranny, she was literally just some annoying mentally ill foid in the minds of everyone who interacted with her. somewhere out there online theres an archive of jim, now notoriously hating of trannies, having a chill but slightly confused conversation with a bunch of old post transition troons about some stuff and just generally asking them wtf their deal is as women, and he just casually accepts that the whole boy thing is done and dusted for them, and that theyre just sorta weird women now. its really impossible to tell anyone who hasnt been watching this unfold the last 15 years just how insane the change in attitudes on trannies is in terms of the collective conscious. sure older trannies got horrific abuse and discrimination, but there wasnt this mass will to rip their hair out and cut off their tits and force them to live as men. this would have been read as psychotic back then by almost everyone. literally the only person on that side who stayed even remotely normal is this one autistic dude who still seemingly respects troons if they actually do the job of trooning properly, but will still call them weirdos for being weird if they are in fact weird.
>>43548374No. I'd say there's plenty of high standard gaming journal outlets now in spite of the whole fiasco but they don't cover gaming in the same way because of incentive structures. It's more like gaming and tech merged with a slanted favor towards covering gaming and the economic landscape. Who knows how long that will last. What you're thinking of are streamers. The audience profile of journalists and esports players overlapped. Hence why you have asmongold with political influence to your chagrin. So the classification is different. I'm not saying I believed anything so you're putting words in my mouth.
>>43548226Gamergate was partly a /pol/ psyop to turn 4chan more right wing and partly they were onto some correct things.Some of their opps functioned to flag people who actually were toxic actors. It's forgotten now but Graham Linehan (Glinner) and Jesse Singal were also fighting with Gamergate. Both of which now have dedicated TDS careers. Brianna Wu since joined their ranks somewhat albeit in a weirder way.
>>43548464Do you have sources that link /pol/ to gamergate? Like, actually raids or planning? Archive threads preferably.
>>43548467If you go on 4plebs and sort by earliest rather than latest in your search it's trivial to find old threads.
>>43548447>I'm not saying I believed anything so you're putting words in my mouth.You clearly believe that gamergate was actually about ethics in journalism lol
>>43548474Sauce>>43548478I said it was a shelling point. But yes, the implication is friendly fire. On the tin, it was about ethics in journalism. It's still relevant. Can you even mention a current happening currently?
>>43548496oh okay you didn't actually want to know. I'm not going to dig the archives for you especially since you're apparently in the thread just to defend gamergate over a decade later but I did happen to have a screenshot compilation saved.
>>43548180I mean I definitely knew, but I didn't really think it was relevant. Yes, I was a Gamergater chud at the time, and I simply thought she was a retarded chud. Now when I saw her shitty game I did have slightly transmisogynistic thoughts about it of the kind we would have here
>>43548496you might find picrel interesting as well as a part of it retold, not from the archives but I screencapped it
>>43548294unironically the one thing i respected her for
>>43548518Wow, you actually did to and cherry pick some shit. I will remark that this was not what I had remembered from coverage (I wasn't on 4chan). I was curious if you could have linked anyone from 4fhin to anyone current. YouTubers, writers, whatever. But you can't. Defend what? What part is being defended? *Schelling pointLook, if you want to actually talk about something you know about then do it. You just seem like you're yelling at a cloud because bri wu is a tranny. The worst possible thing to imply in this thread is to mention that nobody cares about bri wu being a tranny. Literally nobody fucking cares that bri wu is a tranny. I didn't then and I don't now.
>>43548549/pol/ cared about it.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%22brianna%20wu%22/filter/text/order/asc/
>>43548538Thanks. I'll mention slay the spire 2 is being review bombed on 2 fronts. 1. The Chinese market and 2. because anita sarkeesian is in the credits. Theory is they have her there as a political trade, of sorts. Who knows.
>>43548180tranny hate is an Epstein psyop
Nah you guys are remembering this poorly, I remember during gamergate my college hosted milo yiannopolis live and he just made fun of her for being trans for 2 hours as a show. 4chan also had weekly brianna wu tranny freak threads where they would like some forum where people at her college made fun of her and called her the "blue jean bandit"
>>43548549Yeah people care wu is a disingenuous transgenderTheir entire grift now is going around the right winger chud podcasts and apologizing for their existence as a transgenderIt’s fucking sickening
>>43548579Fine fine fine. Most gamers still interested in gamergate are keeping up with:1. Watching TheQuartering being offered to the gaming gods ( if anyone wants to see a a right wing grifter being sacrificed).2. Slay the spire 2 being review bombed because anita sarkeesian and Chinese markets.3. Death watching marathon and what Sony is doing about it. 4. Forecasting the economic fallout from the Grand Theft Auto NUKE. They're still arguing over raising the price. I'll maybe come across some bri wu coverage? Idk, it's more left wing civil war stuff. It hardly seems attached to gamergate at all anymore.
>>43548578If a foundational experience for me was being part of an astroturfed harassment campaign about video games, I'd be in denial about it, too desu
>>43548609>1. Watching TheQuartering being offered to the gaming gods ( if anyone wants to see a a right wing grifter being sacrificed).Im not pro gamergate or anything but im watching this with much schaudenfraud
