do u plan on having kids /lgbt/>lettersBi>age24>yes or noyes>whycause i dont wanna die alone
>>43556692repper27NoI hate myself why would i want to make more of me
>>43556692>lettersftm>age22>yes or noyes>whyi’ve always wanted kids of my own, problem is finding a gay man who wants to get me pregnant and raise a family with me T~T
>>43556726are u cute twink or a midget dwarf ftm
>>43556692>lettersT, B>age18>yes or nono>whyi dont want kids and bringing new life into existence is one of the worst sins anyone could commit
>>43556692Mtf22NoIm already angry enough at my family for passing all their mental disorders to me.
>>43556692mtf42I want to have kids in some capacity, yesbecause Ive wanted to be a mom almost as long as I've known I was supposed to be a girl. Because I have so much love to give and as much as I love my cat she's not enough. Because I'm terrified I might develop dementia or alzheimers or something and there'll be no one to help me. Because I'm lonely
>>43556755idk neither since i don’t think im gonna get top surgery just phallo after birth
>>43556786pass it on to feel better
25 mtf, straight with no repulsion(so if no boy wants me >.< I'd settle for a woman to have a family with) Yes, but only if I can provide a high standard of living, and stable home environment.>Why 1. The trannyworms or whatever I think have made me always want a baby, in place of dolls I treated my stuffed animals as my babies/children as a kid. 2. My ideological beliefs general trend toward pro-children 3.Even through the struggles I truely love every moment of being alive, and I can't think of anything better than trying to endow that joy for living in another generation(hopefully with less struggle along the way)
>>43556692We truly hope so, its, something we dream about often, raising kids.>LettersMtf Bi>Age23>Yes or noYes>WhyDamn bitch weird format
Male27I would like to but I'm an unlovable socially awkward retard.
>>43556692>Mtf>30 ),:<>Yes>My life's a joke
>>43556692Female24NoI want to spend money on games and minis. Not children.
>>43556692do u plan on having kids /lgbt/>lettersBi mtf>yes or nofuck no.>whycause I'm not a selfish sack of shit. this planet is a hell planet and all life living things on it are subjected to its horrors. Fuck this system, I refuse to bring another human onto a life of endless labor and suffering. anyone who breeds knowing the world is suffering is an NPC piece of dogshit.
>>43557727Yea but what if I don't agree life as a human is suffering?
>>43557727You sound like an awful person
>>43556692>lettersmtf bi>age25>yes or noyes. i will never father children, but i would have children if science makes it possible. im open to the other options>whywhy not
>>43556692>lettersGay, FTM.>age35.>yes or noYes. I'm a dad.>whywell, there's a lot of answers to that. There's the more personal reasons: I felt compelled to, I want to give someone the happiest life/start to life possible under these circumstances and help them learn to deal with inevitable suffering. I think we and the people in our lives have a lot to offer in that regard.. I'm in a very good place in my life right now in terms of logistics/material resources, also. then there's more of the philosophical stuff, that I'm not antinatalist and I have come to view life as ultimately worth it, despite spending many years chronically suicidal.
>>43556692Chaser26YesBecause I'm the only male with my last name.
>>43556793dwarf it is thengood luck trying to get a gay man to fug you with those big baggy milkers btw lmao
>letterscis male bi>age25>yes or nono (knew since i first considered the question at age 11)>whyimagine wanting to summon a new being into this hellworld
>>43556692Bi cis m30NoDon't want them and it is ethically irresponsible
>>43556692>lettersBi mostly straight mtf >age 23>y/nYes in theory>whyI think I could give a child the love they deserve but only if I became less mentally unwell
>lettersBi mtf>age31>yes or nonot really>whyI never really wanted a kid. Had close calls a couple times before transitioning. To me the idea sounds great, having a feathery haired mini me running around would be fun and make me live a fulfilling life with purpose. But me and my gf just value our financial and personal freedom too much to give that up. We are also both trans girls now so if we even want a kid sometime in the future, our only chance is adoption. And the way things are looking in the US atm, theres no fucking way they will let two trans chicks adopt a child in 5-15 years. And that's okay ig. Just more money and free time for us to do adult shit without having to worry about a literal whole ass person that has no idea what the fuck they are doing on a second-to-second, minute-by-minute scale
>>43556692>lettersBi ftm>age21>Yes or noYes, already had a kid when I was 14>whyLove my daughter and want to give her siblings
>>43557811then you're wrong.>>43558014for not selfishly breeding? sure, I'm fucking terrible.
>>43556726>>43556793>>43558106>>43558699LMAOOO
Had my first on Boxing day last year.lettersBi>age33>whyThe time just felt right. Best thing I ever did.
>>43556692>lettersBi>age28>yes or noNope>whycrippling mental illnessbut to be honest, with the way things are going I might actually get a girl pregnant in the near future
>>43556692guy's really cutei really need to move to japan one of these days...
>>43558699>>43558106>>43556726“im a trans man and i like giving birth with my vagina” this has to be the worst pol false flag bait i’ve seen in this board
>>43558873Trannies are cock posting all the time but you take offence in me creating new beautiful people. Breeding is hot, sorry you cannot do it. Buy that phallo, sew close your pussyhole and mind your own business
mtf, 23, no, i would love having little gremlins but i'm too lazy and mentally ill. i can't even take care of a pet let alone a child
>>43557727cheer up, champ :)
>>43556692>lettersBi detrans mtf>age23>yes or noNo>whyI would struggle owning a pet and generally am far too unstable to be a decent parent. Even if I met someone willing to put up with me I can't imagine myself wanting kids anyway.
>trans and bi>30>No>Having children is immoral and cruel to the child
>>43556692>lettersmtf bi>age19>yes or noyes>whyI like kids and I want to larp as a soccer mom tradwife
>>43556692>lettersi'm a cisgender male>age19>yes or nono, although some people would say i'll change my mind with age, which is understandable>whyi don't like to sound like an anti-natalist faggot redditor but i see it as quite immoral for most people to have children, especially someone like me. by creating another conscious lifeform, i would be bringing another person into the world whos life will consist of jumping between boredom, anxiety and suffering with occasional fleeting pleasure which is constantly underlined by the threat and fear of losing it, no matter how hard i tried to prevent them from seeing and being affected by that truth. in addition to this, while i'm not completely dysgenic and i don't suffer from any mentally disorders, i don't want to have to bring another sub5 into the world who will most likely live a short and miserable, lonely, slavelike existence before they eventually neck themselves and my bloodline ends forever with them instead of me. chances are i'll never reproduce whether i want to or not so i don't give these hypotheticals a great deal of mental energy
>>43561383couldn't've said it better
>>43557727reddit infested brain
I think maybe 1 in 100 of you psychos would be able to handle having a child without completely wrecking them
>>43563391this type of thinking actually used to be so much more popular here than reddit until 2016 came and trump caused a christcuck renaissance
>>43558873>“im a trans man and i like giving birth with my vagina” this has to be the worst pol false flag bait i’ve seen in this boardOh I certainly do not LIKE it
>>43563476Well hopefully I'm 1 of 100 because I'm committed
without fail EVERY antinatalist i know is white. what is it with you people and this weird form of misanthropic reddit nihilism?
>>43556692(technically) mtf, 36I do have kids already. A girl and a boy.>whyBecause I always wanted to have kids. Told my now wife upfront that I was a (sort of a) repper and she was like "oh, then we gotta hurry up"
>bi transfem>22>no>because im extremely mentally ill and irresponsible, it would be a complete unmitigated disaster. im also an antinatalist and dont think its ever worth inflicting existence onto someone
>>43556692straight mtf18yesi wanna be a mom
>>43556692>lettersbi ftm>age26>yes or nofuck no>whymy parents were terrible and ive always sworn off of having kids out of fear of fucking them up too even unintentionally. having kids is expensive and i genuinely think its immoral to force more children into this terrible world of climate disaster and unaffordable living, and itd be immoral to pass down my mental illnesses the way my parents did to me.
>>43556692>cause i dont wanna die alonewhy are breeders so pathetic?
>>43565267antinatalists are objectively correct. what right do you have to create a sentient being, necessarily without their consent, who will necessarily suffer? we only do it out of instinct.
>>43565641>antinatalists are objectively correctkys.antinatalists should not be permitted to breathe, desu. no civilization should be so tolerant as to actively permit the enemy within its midst.
>>43558014anyone who feels that way and is also child free is based af. and feeling that way is completely valid. feeling that way and still having kids would be awful. foh.
>>43565655breederism: reasoning not included
>>43565808there is no need to "reason" breathing, procreation or eating.what one needs to reason is why we still permit antinatalists to breathe and, even worse, spread their dangerous poison. to be an antinatalist is to be subhuman and therefore human rights should not apply. bullet in your head and common grave is the merciful treatment you scum deserve.
>>43556692aw hell nah
>>43565267many people from rich countries dont go through normal and necessary formative experiences when growing up and then end up like this>>43565641>what right do you have to create a sentient beingyou dont need a right>necessarily without their consentyou dont need consent to do this>who will necessarily suffersuffering is not a universal truth. it is a human emotional response>we only do it out of instinctinstincts arent inherently bad
>>43565641This is only objectively correct if you agree with the proposition, that life is more suffering than benefit on average.
>>43565895you eat breathe and procreate because it feels good. things that feel good are not necessarily actually good. procreation is one of many things in life that feels good but is not actually good. your instincts are a tool natural selection uses to condition your behavior for passing on your genes, not a window into objective moral truth.
>>43556692MTF, L, 25Ideally, yes. I never bothered with sperm freezing so it might be a crapshoot but there's always adoption> whyI have very motherly instincts
>>43566050>suffering is not a universal truth. it is a human emotional responsesuffering is an unpleasant experience, and it is an experience anyone with a sense of empathy has some interest in minimizing. if you reject empathy that's your prerogative, though people who do so tend to assume that selfishness is rational when it is no more rational (i'd argue less rational even) than absolute empathy.>>43566051that assumes benefit can outweigh or negate the evil of suffering. maybe to an extent it can, but that's highly debatable and highly variable, and from a human rights perspective breederism is a nonstarter.
>>43566061>procreation is one of many things in life that feels good but is not actually goodThis is an opinion, not a fact. And a morally reprehensible opinion for which I support your immediate execution.As >>43566051 correctly pointed out, this insane babbling only makes sense if one agrees with the even more insane proposition that life is more suffering than benefit on average. But the proposition itself is insane, morally reprehensible, factually harmful and straight up evil. Holding such an opinion is a window into objective moral truth that you are evil and the moral progress of civilization would be forwarded by your physical removal and burial.
>>43566113>this insane babbling only makes sense if one agrees with the even more insane proposition that life is more suffering than benefit on average.that is also an opinion, not a fact. it assumes a very specific calculus of benefit/suffering, assumes suffering can be outweighed with benefit, and is not a human rights centric approach. you can also only speak for yourself, and not the countless people who experience more suffering in an average year then you will over the course of your life. i don't think you're doing the math here and rationally concluding that the good outweighs the bad, i think you're having an emotional reaction and responding on instinct.>the proposition itself is insane, morally reprehensible, factually harmful and straight up evil.you keep saying this without defending any of it. i don't understand why my saying this has you so whipped up into a frenzy, it's not like i'm coming to stop you from making as many babies as you please. i'm just saying making those babies might not necessarily be the ethical thing to do.
>>43566178>you keep saying this without defending any of itI don't need to defend it. This is 4chan, not the oxford debate society or the cluster of terminally online fucktards you're accustomed with.You need to defend your privilege of being allowed to continue to breathe, you subhuman scum.>it's not like i'm coming to stop you from making as many babies as you pleaseBy spreading your poisonous venom you are inflicting harm on civilization. If a single person is persuaded by your devilish venom, then you have already done a lot more harm than it should ever be permitted. Hanging you in public is the merciful solution.>i'm just sayingYou should not be permitted to live, let alone say anything, you scum!
>>43566112>suffering is an unpleasant experience, and it is an experience anyone with a sense of empathy has some interest in minimizing.is suffering independent from humans? is the sun suffering? is earth suffering?empathy is a human instinct. interest in minimizing suffering is humanthere is no right or wrong in the universe when it comes to human behavior. this negative response you have exists only inside your brain. its simply dumb for you to assume that having children is objectively wrong
>>43556692>lettersgay>agegay>yes or nogay>whygay
>letterscisf bi >age30>yes or nono>whyI don't trust myself not to fuck up a child like my mom fucked me up, even unintentionally, so I opted out. I do wish I had any desire at all to reproduce but I don't and never have
>>43566203>I don't need to defend it.i guess not, i just don't see the point of posting so furiously when you cant offer any basis for it?>By spreading your poisonous venom you are inflicting harm on civilization.what harm am i inflicting? i think you and anyone else who spreads this slop that is the antithesis of critical thinking are causing every bit as much harm, but i suck it up because i'm not actually gullible enough to believe the drivel that our species has agreed is true out of convenience, and so lack the luxury of demanding the people who disagree with me be hanged.>>43566224who said i believe anything is objectively wrong? obviously reality itself assigns no value to our experience. but, well, i'm a sentient being, and being a member of the only class of system even capable of assigning value to things, i am very comfortable assigning a negative value to suffering as it is definitionally an experience i as a sentient being do not enjoy. the word value is ultimately just our way of denoting what does and doesn't bring us pleasure and suffering, whether we admit it to ourselves or not.
>>43556692>lettersBi Cis M>age33>yes or noYes>whySpent some more time with my extended family during covid and realized it's something I really want. Decided after that to date with intention for marriage and kids. Wife and I will have kids next year.
>>43566346>who said i believe anything is objectively wrong?>>43565641>antinatalists are objectively correct.sorry anon. cant take you seriously
>>43566395words can have different meanings and implications in different contexts, that's how language works. when saying antinatalists are objectively correct, i was appealing to the fact that, if we are to assume morality of any kind is on the table (surely necessary for even considering whether they are right and wrong), their reasoning is sound and the alternative position is nonsensical. when saying i don't believe anything is objectively wrong, i was saying rightness and wrongness don't transcend the experience of sentient beings and are not baked into reality itself.
>>43556692i’m mtf and 23 and i wanna be a mom but idk how it’ll happen :( hopefully i can get married and adopt
>>43565641because i felt like it lol, every living thing wants to reproduce and antinatalists are massive hypocrites for not killing themselves since their carbon footprint increases global suffering guess after all they do like being alive
>>43566433>i am retardedyes, anon, we can see.
>>43566475>antinatalists are massive hypocrites for not killing themselvesi don't kill myself because it would cause my friends and family to have to grieve, and because i think i can do good in this world that outweighs the suffering my existence causes for myself and others.
>>43556692>mtf semi-repper>37>no>because why pass on bad genes and bring in a child into this theatre of absurdThe only reason i would ever have kids would be if i had a relationship, and my wife/spouse/partner genuinely wanted to have kids with me.
>>43566495i think you're just being uncharitable about me using objectively as a superlative without meaning it 100% in every possible frame of reference but whatever you say anon
>>43566873this anon>>43566495 is not me>>43566395
>>43557727Life is suffering and nobody deserves to suffer for another person's desires.That is a decision every being should be allowed to make for itself - and when it can't, it shouldn't.Not having children is respecting basic human rights.
>>43556692>lettersmale, stopped taking e in 2019, pan>age32>kidswant a daughter/son>whyi'd be a nurturing parent, i was a step-parent while repping the last 7 years. i doubt wombyn in denver are lining up for an amab with b cups but here we are.
>>43567055omg DO NOT have children as a repper
>>43566945add pedantic to the list
>>43567088Nah its fine if you can provide a very pro-trans environment so you kids will be guaranteed to be blocker bitches unless they are completely retarded
>>43567112what
>>43567132okay John, 50
>>43567184I'm a younshit talking actually
>>43556692If ur gay you need to have kids early bc having a twinkmom and a fatherdaf will produce a superior healthy man but two post-wall gross faggots will destroy the child's soul.
>>43567193okay your argument is voided anyways.Reppers are retarded and trans, so they're children are also retarded and trans. Ex falso quodlibet thus applies in any case.
>>43567263Good point, I forgot to factor in the retardation of repperdom. So would you say its safe for trannies who never repped to have biological children?
>>43556792Do you have a wife or husband? How were your previous relationships?
>>43556692Bi cis m22No; unless i get a partner in the future who wants themNever had the urge to. I could envision myself as a father and I have protective instincts, but the idea of passing on my genes feels weirdly self centered and almost cruel because of how miserable and anxious my brain makes me feel. Honestly, I feel like I would almost rather adopt since that way I'm at least helping someone who was already born and needs it, not creating someone who might inherit my stupid ass traits. Then again, I could understand meeting someone and wanting to have their kids out of love for them, so who knows.
>>43567193>I'm a younshit talking actuallyyou transitioned young til 2019? what happen
>>43568676No I not that anon, sorry
>lettersLesbian>age 19>yes or noNo>whyBeing expected to take care of kids as a childless female killed my maternal instincts years ago
>>43556692>lettersMTF Lesbian>age19>yes or noNo>whyI want to enjoy my life. Childs would defeat this purpose because I would need to take care them 24/7 for a good amount of years. Fuck that. Even if I wanted to have a child, I would be scared as fuck of being a terrible mum. I don't want to be like what my mum was to me.
>>43556692>lettersBI MTF>age26>yes or noyes>whyI really wanted to have a family, I know I will never be a real mother, but I think it would be nice to help someone grow and be happy. so I want to adopt,If I cant find a partner before my 30s (which is high probable), I'll give up and try adopting as a single parent (its possible in my country)
>>43556692>lettersa(gp)sexual repper>age23>yes or noNo.>why1. It would involve having sex as a man (gross)2. It would involve lying my way into a relationship (unethical)3. It would pass on the tranny + 6'2 gigaman gene combination (extremely unethical)4. I'm a miserable alcoholic with no good future ahead of me, so obviously I would not be a good parent.
>>43556692>lettersFTM (T), B>age22>yes or nono>whyI don't want to pass my genes on and raise a child.