why are so many other trans people, ftm and mtf into such weird occult shit? im pagan and even i react in genuine shock and disgust to some of the shit other tgirls are into. why are we un ironically venerating evil shit and practising odd stuff like blood vampirism?it scares me a little, i end up having less trans friends because half of them i meet are into some really weird or extremely dark and violent occultism.
>>43558894Meh. You just dont vibe. Dark occultism is like 4chan it just takes a thick skin and spunk
>>43558894>Live a lifestyle that goes against your mainstream religion (for most of us, Christianity).>Do the oppositeThat's literally as deep as the rabbit hole goes.
>>43558894>im paganWhat rocks do you worship as a god?
>>43558919Crack
>>43558894they're fags
>>43558907yeah but im not a fan when people ask to cut a sigil into my arm or to go physically attack somebody with them for no reason aside from wanting to partake in the occult?? seems kinda heavy
>>43558894because they're fucked in the head and severely stupid and influenceablealso if voodoo shit was real haiti and benin would be the richest countries on earth.
>>43558919ash trees are pretty cool
>>43558925Violence is fun and brings people together. I feel like a lot of that stuff either is just to gate keep the weak willed or the act itself is the spell. A lot of jt is over the top and campy Like most satanists for example
>>43558934Not a rock.Also my culture worships the trees and seasons too.
>>43558936i don't at all disagree with violence, just not the use of it for self service or to bring unwarranted terror to others. what is so fun about beating up an elderly person or someone who cant/wont fight back? why dont they ever want to fight somebody who could fight back??? once again it just doesn't make sense to me. I'd slaughter a goat/ox/pig/horse in veneration of my gods, i wouldnt slaughter a defenceless old person or some homeless person for self-serving kicks though.
>>43558948very cool, im pretty sure pale stones like granite and shit have relevance, although i dont think we ever directly tied or venerated anything to specific stones.
>>43558956I can't speak for that. Most evil occult types came from christanity so their reasoning is christcuck in reverse. They probably think the stain hurting someone defenseless leaves on your soul is a form of liberation from moral restraint
>>43558967>>43558914yeah i also noticed this, you dont have to do genuinely super dark stuff, weird shit or outright terror to be the opposite of what that is though? does the christcuck camp really think the only other way is to do the most absolutely rancid shit possibly for the sake of pwning da chooorch?
>>43558925just tell them they're stupid. if their practice consists of hurting people with no deeper insight just make fun of their practice. like ok maybe you're getting something out of that but it seems like most of what you're getting is hurting people and I don't want to do that i will say you could probably take a good guess why they're doing that. is the question why occultism or why harmful occultism? you can imagine the type of people on this board might be more interested in being destructive after bouncing off more constructive methods. i guess some just want to hurt people/feel empowered by creating or participating in a fantasy and would have no interest in any more positive occultism too
>>43558986>i guess some just want to hurt people/feel empowered by creating or participating in a fantasy and would have no interest in any more positive occultism too.yeah very much this. i've tried to introduce alot of them to literally any other branches imaginable related to occultism and spirituality and they all just ignore it in service for being genuinely bad people who want to be bad.
>>43558974They think in extreme black and white. The church instills shame/guilt in them that metastasizes into hate. Then when they find out their childish understanding of their own religion isnt 100% accurate they reject it all morality and all. Then they act like spurned edgy teens until they find some other belief system to fall into blindly.
>>43558928>>43558967>>43558986>>43558998has been very eye opening to see others have similar thoughts about this and that im actually not the schizo i thought i was lol. heres a cool yugioh card i like as a thanx
>>43558963Pagens worship rocks.
>>43558974Well the opposite of the Christian world view is anti-truth and anti-good, by their definition.
>>43558894Because spirituality used to be our whole role before the fire nation attacked. Our gender role was literally "shaman".
>>43558894Paganism seems interesting, what kind of stuff do you believe
People who hate religion but then go gaga for weird occult stuff and violent blood rituals and things of that sort always sound like kids trying to rebel against their parents because it makes them cool in their minds
>>43563370Idk blood sacrifices do sound pretty cool
>>43558894I dunno, I just like it :<Gives us some sense of tangibility to our life outside of 'belief' and cope.Blood is insanely intimate, and we truly believe it and the things that you imbue with care and soul have energy. Why, SHOULDNT we use that to practice magic?
Christians hate us and Science is cringe
>>43558894I'm MTF and I believe in God. >inb4 someone has a melty
>>43563477No1curr
>>43558925Weird chuuni types like that are to be cherished
>>43563413Im not even religious or anything like that. But i cant believe that someone that is into blood and killing things thinks thats based but being a christcuck is wrong. Make it make sense lol
>>43558919Empty Jar
>>43558894people who are pushed to the sidelines of society want to reject its ways and find a sense of liberation partaking in that which their oppressors hate
>>43564180I dont think worshipping christ is wrong :< I just don't