Why not just get surgery? Literally fix your face , body , hips and everything. You can get nice set of boobs , ass and hips instead of waiting on hormones to do the job
Hasn't that lady literally gotten like 700,000$ in work done lmao?
>>43576034bc it’s expensive and scaryalso I never understand why so many trannies gymmax pre troon
money
>>43576061and mostly paid by insurance apparently. And usa trannies wonder why the public has turned against them
>>43576063I gymmaxed but in a twinky fag way and I think it helped, but getting big like this is retarded
She posts here sometimes or did in the past
>>43576034Most people would spend a literal million dollars on cosmetic surgery if it was available to them
>>43576066>>43576063>>43576061Why don't /ttt/ do fund raisers then we randomly select a pool of people that gets surgery? If there's thousand of us all we have to do is put up 1k. >>43576091We can fund it ourselves.
>>43576063I would imagine trying to cope or convince themselves that to get over it they just need to man up more. Or just trying to at least have a body that they can on some level not hate
>>43576078No, she buried the lead in some of her posts, if you dig a little deeper she's employed at a Top 10 tech company that basically pays everything Issuance didn't cover(which was the vast majority)
>>43576034because you cant fix everything, you wont look like how you were supposed to look and soft tissue surgeries suck
>>43576097I would cry for this chance.. seriously.. i, i want to cry even thinking of this as a possibility
>>43576097Good idea. Everyone kamikaze your personal finances so I can finally be a gigapassoid
>>43576097>Why don't /ttt/ do fund raisers then we randomly select a pool of people that gets surgery?>If there's thousand of us all we have to do is put up 1k.moneywho is giving thousands of dollars for the 0.1% chance of being selected
>>43576128>>43576124I don't care, I don't have much to spare, but I would put in $300, just because giving someone else that chance would be worth it
>>43576119>>43576124>>43576128Ok we have one tranny get most work done but we have her sign a contract where she'll do porn and pay back all money then next tranny gets money and it goes on.
>>43576104many such cases!
>>43576034insurance pays for it all on a trannys tech dime in americaeven medicaid in blue stateswill pay for ffs, implants and ppt srs
>>43576034this image really captures what many people find so disturbing about transitioning. what started out as a cool muscular chad is now a frail twink with missing ribs and an infantile interest in things like plushies. And she is supposedly happier this way. That just does not compute for A LOT of people.
>>43576151This could work. Eventually it'd compound and there would be an infinite amount of hypothetical tranny porn money, right?
>>43576104she must be like one of their top engineers then, I worked in big tech and never heard of anything like thatbenefits of autism I guess
>>43576194like to a lot of ppl that sounds more like regression more than transition
>>43576194Because the world is so violently patriarchal, most people cannot imagine being happier as a victim
>>43576088Everyone for some reason keeps reminding me this place exists.
>>43576231Who cares? It's just using you as an example. Nothing really about you.
>>43576194I think it just makes people uncomfortable that there isn’t some immutable link between a persons appearance and their inner self. So when some naturally effeminate gigatwink transitions no one bats an eye, but when a gymbro transitions it fucks with your whole worldview
>>43576034hm, yes, very nice, let's see the face, surely it passes
>>43576063you don't need to gymmaxx to get this body. at all. I never hit the gym once in my life to lift weights for upper body. But I have played athlete level sports from teenage to early adulthood and this permanently changes your body. now I lift every two days to increase my butt as a coping mechanism.
>>43576436there is no fucking way you get a body like this from just sport. Unless your sport is like shot put or something
>>43576436Yeah this is correct. I just went bouldering with friends a few times a week every week to get my shape. I didn't care about bulking, I just enjoyed hanging out with people and the sport was fun. Over like 10 years of doing that though you just natually bulk
>>43576511what is it about rock climbing that attracts so many fags
>>43576436holy moly that's one testosteronized body, fuck
>>43576544Idk its a recent devleop, it used to be like toxically straight
>>43576267nta>it just makes people uncomfortable that there isn’t some immutable link between a persons appearance and their inner selfright on targetalso what a lot of normalfags don't know is that the gymbro to tranny pipeline is just as wide as the incel to tranny pipeline.
>>43576577roiders and looksmaxers are pretty much trannies already mtM is real
>>43576063it just happens. its not like i hate it now, testosterone just makes your body look completely different compared to cis women while doing the exact same thing
>>43576479I was referring to OP pic. my build is a case of genetics that allow you easy muscle growth and maintenance. I'm also a manlet and that helps. I don't lift, only done it for my sports when I was 14-18. I have not done anything from 23 to 28 (depression) and lost only a few kilograms and pecs mass.See >>43576511 you can do bouldering for fun and get a decent physique. I do bouldering once every two weeks and that's it for my upper body. picrel is my peak when I was 22. Then I completely stopped working out. You can see that I lost pecs, my abs are not as defined and I got a bit fatter since.
>>43576602yes, pretty much.I was never a roider but I was a gymbro. Now shooting girljuice and aiming for femboy looks. So... mtm in a way, lol.
>>43576151I would do this. I will do this.
>>43576061How tf do you even spend $700k on feminizing surgery
>>43576774>>43576104>>43576061i think she only spent like $150k on surgeries, i'm a tech troon on like $200k (which comes to like 120-130k after tax because i live in a stupid jurisdiction) so it's not particularly unrealistic. i'm still a hon after shelling out like $100k on ffs tho, i'd give anything not to be stuck in this horrible deformed moid body
>>43576061the million dollar tranny
>>43576778wow that's enough money for me to buy a plot of land with a house to renovate and exit society. I will live comfortably in repcity and save my money to exit scam instead of trooning out and plunging all my money into surgeries which will never fix my bricked build anyways. Thanks sis
>>43576778Do you feel like you get diminishing returns with that level of investment? I assume the first $50k gets you like 80% as far as you’re going to go
>>43576104So her work insurance covered it? We all pay premiums
>>43576832No she bills insurance and then everything rejected for reimbursement, gets sent to the company and then paid roughly(I don't remember all the particularly of how that all works)
>>43576832I think they mean the company itself paid what the insurance didn’t cover. Really only makes sense if she’s a super high value employee
>>43576858my work insurance is self-funded and to my knowledge yeah thats how it works. basically the company pays for everything, its not a big risk pool with other companies
>>43576800i mean it's fine, if it makes you feel any better, we'll probably all lose our jobs to ai once it gets good enough and considering the state of the job market, i'll probably end up working in mcdonalds eventually. though i'll probably just rope if i get laid off. i already get super depressed reading about layoffs every time i open hn, and then i look in the mirror and see a deformed moid and get even more depressed.>>43576828>the first $50k gets you like 80% as far as you’re going to goyeah, honestly that's kinda what facialteam in spain quoted me and their results would have been the same as what i got with one of the top us surgeons. people on this board make fun of facialteam but they do good work. what people tend to ignore is how much your genetics matter, even surgeons like db or keo won't make everyone a passoid, it depends on whether your facial proportions allow you to pass in the first place or not. ffs fixes clocky features but it does little for people who get clocked off their facial proportions alone.
>>43576034>Why not just get surgeryim already pretty and its not like i could afford it anyway. and even if i had the money, its not like there isnt better ways to spend it than wasting it all on your appearance just to please some deranged terf who will go into cardiac arrest if she clocks a troon at the fleamarket
>>43576034bc every problem I have is unfixable. Surgerymaxxers make me seethe bc all the areas where I’m supposedly lucky like shoulder width can be fixed with enough money but issues I have like skull size are unfixable and always will be
Surgery is scary for anyone without a mental illness.I've got like 60k cash but I'm too afraid of being botched or dying to do a stupid cosmetic surgery m
>>43576034>FFS>Ribs>HipsThat’s all I really need but that’ll cost me about like uhhhh 120,000 at best. Yeah I won’t be tea until I’m in my late 30s but oh well.
>>43576871I guess their work insurance is both AnthemBCBS and a pool like you're talking about or something(?)
>>43576885yeah that's basically my problem, i got ffs and i even got it revised and i'm still very unhappy and at this point i'm pretty convinced that the issues are unfixable. i wouldn't bother getting rib remodeling or BA because i'd just be a man with breast implants and a twink waist, like what is even the point. surgerymaxxing only works if your overall proportions would be passable once the clocky features were removed and my body isn't even that bad (other than being wrecked by overeating).>>43576892depends on how bad your dysphoria is desu, my face dysphoria is immense and it seriously interferes with my life
>>43576544It's a techbro thing
>>43576892you also have to genuinely believe it works, I’ve just seen too many trannies who look uncanny and botched. All the prettiest trannies have basically no surgery at all
>>43576950lots of gigapassoids went to ft, kat being one example, she was clocky before and she's a gigapassoid now, i'd argue she's probably the best looking trans woman on the board by a mile
>>43576632are you trans? I literally despise you right now (source: ftm)
>>43576971Nta but ft do a weird uncanny look around the eyes that I don't like.>>43576919Being a manmoder crushes me everyday but surgery feels too far too extreme and too risky
>>43576971Is this>>43576194 Kat? she’s cute but she looks like she’s had work done that’s the thing
>>43576034What the fuck surgeries achieve this?
>>43576978I'm a professional repper
>>43577034yes that is her and i think that photo is like right after surgery. but she's basically an example of a person who had really good facial proportions pre-transition and who only had a few clocky features. unless you're a luckshit, (you) won't look like that even with expensive ffs>>43577077i think she had ba, rib remodeling and maybe clavicle reduction. and she went to db for ffs iirc
>>43577104>>43577077ribs, clavicle, ffs. FTBA, lipo, scapula shave, face fat implant, bbl(s). I think she went to Mardi actually, but I may be wrong.
>>43577744Ribs 5-12 and she's going back for 2-12. fucking Surgeries Georgher greed knows no bounds
>>43577815I mean wouldnt u if it was all free and u had a desk job?
>>43576078>usa>having insuranceI can’t even fathom paying for heath insurance anymore it’s soo expensive if you’re poor but not poor enough for state insurance :(
>>43577815nta>her greed knows no boundsI'd be equally greedy if such options were to actually work on me. I'd pay for them myself too.t. srsoid mef (basically fetishist transmaxxer)
>>43576034and STILL doesn't have a female-appearing abdomenthe absolute state
>>43577838its mostly paid for by your employer unless ur a low level wagie
>>43577830I think speedrunning it all on insurance's dime in a culture that is already itching for excuses to strip care is kind of insane and going back for more of the same procedure you already had is flying too close to the sunLike I've looked into this stuff myself and desperately want it but it feels overly greedy.
>>43577926its a self paid plan. He employer pays for it, not the general pool of workers. Also she never chose to be trans. Why should trans people have to pay 400k just to have the same opportunity to look decent as a cis person.
>>43577744she 100% went to db
this is fake
>>43577949>have to pay 400kyou don't have to pay 400k, ffs is like the only non-optional surgery for trans women, rest is literally cosmetic
>>43577949Okay but some of the procedures are purely vanity and not just a matter of looking cis. Half of the shit I want is because of medical neglect unrelated to gender dysphoria. Also, employer-sponsored plans are still subject to scrutiny and abusing them can lead to employers being less keen on hiring trannies or cutting some more critical care from their plan offerings.
>>43577830insurance will cover ffs, ba, srs at mostly substandard practices. it doesn't cover rib remodeling, hips implants, clavicle reduction etc.
>>43577995which ones are vanity?>>43577983unreal cope. shoulderhon/ribhons exist
>>43577983Ehhh some can be really important for passing. SHR plays a major role in passability.The shocking part is Kaldir being like "wow I'm getting she/her'd more often" after a morbillion surgeries when my dumbfuck 18" bideltoid moid ass got she/her'd in a t-shirt and sweatpants today with $0 of surgery. Like what was she doing that made her get clocked before???
>>43577999My middle class liberal state desk job employer offers three different insurance plans and only one of them doesn't explicitly exclude FFS procedures. >>43578010Lipo and scapula shave. The BA was vanity too tbhon.
>>43576034surgeons in california are expensive >inb4 just travel plan on going to belgrade for orchi
>>43578022>wow I'm getting she/her'd more oftenwell, she has an andro face even with ffs, none of her other surgeries are going to matter much for passing aside from BA, but BA with an andro face in a liberal area will just mean people reading you as a trans woman. like, the skull literally determines 95% of whether you get read as cis or trans unless you're a heighthon at like 6'3 or above
>>43576034What a horrible tragic waste.
>>43578010>unreal cope. shoulderhon/ribhons existleast insane ttttroon
>>43578040she was pretty small before BA. lipo is debatable, it did help with WHRscapula is super dimorphic, its just rarely seen
>>43578058Yeah but I have a gigamoided hon jaw and a wide face so idk what she's doing. Maybe her voice or body language sucks? Like her body passes way better than mine because I got turbomoided by puberty and being a fat fuck as a kid + COPD gave me a stupid large ribcage so it feels insane to me that she would be clocked.
>>43578096hot take: breast size matters way less for passability than nipple distance (breadth) which the rib reduction took care of.
>>43576194Such total BS! This person is only like 5'5. The first pic is a very masculine angling. She tried being a guy and failed.She really had good results!
>>43576061>lady
>>43578128well then why are you complaining because breast implants are usually covered and ribs almost never is.
>>43578114>wide facehonestly, i've seen conflicting statements on whether stuff like bizygomatic width is dimorphic or not because some people claim that it absolutely is>>43578128oh yeah holy shit like one of the things that makes me dysphoric when naked is how far apart my boobs are but even though i have enough money, i just don't feel like getting my ribs messed with. honestly, if my face wasn't so moided even post-ffs, i probably would get more surgeries. i just manmode and try to find other outlets to cope with dysphoria
>>43578167I had breast reduction surgery and wish I had gone all the way. I don't want to have to bottom scar
>>43578140I'm saying that the BA (among other things) was vanity and that consuming vast quantities of resources in rapid succession like this disincentivizes employers and insurance companies from providing critical care to trannies in the future. >>43578167Bizygomatic width is pretty dimorphic and is used to gender people but it's role seems really weird and hard to quantify.
>>43578184wait what, why would you get that as a troon? i have hrt boobs as a manmoder but in my head i just rationalize it with "haha it's just gyno bro"
>>43578196the way she did it (renuva FTBA) yes, it was overpriced, but cis women also get to not have silicone in their chest.
>>43578197I was a 32b and it was impossible to hide my breast. Everyone takes me as a girl, but as a butch girl.
>>43578268if you're a passoid why do you even manmode, that makes no sense, manmoding is for neverpassers or semipassoid efforthons
>>43578286NTA but boymoder brainworms and/or HRT Femboy.
>>43578655nta>HRT Femboyi'm an hrt femboy but if I actually get to always be seen female, I'd rather first take my shot at 'social transition' than go for surgery. Ig i'm too much of a pussy lul
>>43576194holyyyy why did i not realise that the famous xitter tranny was this tripfag omg
>>43579194The one in the OP (CatKaldir) is not the same person as the tripfag (Kat).
>>43579208ohh okay bcos yeah was thinking like wasn't she German or smth idk
>>43576128the chance would be a lot higher than that… there aren’t many actual girlmoders who are willing to put effort and money into their transition on this site . i wouldn’t participate if there’s any chance of faggots like vlush could win the lotto
>>43579238Honestly the only reason I haven't dropped a ton of money on rib reduction is because I want to get FFS first and don't want to get screwed over by insurance arbitrarily deciding that they won't cover it for some reason.
>>43576034I have no money
>>43576034Imagine she will have kids with new gametes from skincells tech and her kids will inherit genes of a grown woman with a brick body and a man face...If you did not look good with just hrt don't ever mother a child
>>43576078Its unfair that trannies can get cosmetic shit like this for free but trans men cannot even get fms or torso masculinization. Its sex discrimination. I'm so bitter that I will start to lobby this to cis women "ain't it unfair that trannies get rib sculpt and nosejob for free but you have yo pay for it"Hope some cis girl sues these insurance companies. I'm so fucking bitter.
>>43576200That's the American Way!
>>43580473whats up with anons talking about IVG so much lately? lol
>>43576267And the programming aims to make people angry at it when they could instead feel empowered
>>43580496Its coming in 10 years or maybe not.. very possible that its never deemed safe enough.Cannot help but think that having the mother be a grown male will make the baby look like a monsterSame if the father is a tiny womanYour genes don't know that you transitioned so the genes you pass on would be like if a big bricky man shaped woman had a baby or a tiny bird boned man had a baby.. Never mind all the fuck up epigenetics and possible cancer risks
you people are all looksmaxxers and so is she, this is just about being attractive
>>43580530i hope i get to be a mother for 4 chudlings
>>43580544How you cope if all your kids are ugly and sick because you wished to used weird ungodly tech? I think I would be too scared to use ivg
>>43580555i just have to pass only the X chromosome from my mother and everything will be finee
>>43578114I've spent a lot of time in my apartment because lots of surgery means lots of recovery, and I don't voice train. It can be hard when all you can show is your voice.I'm really excited to get out this summer more since I spent the last year in recovery.There's more I'd want done with my face, I don't think DB is good at soft tissue, but I'm pretty sick of recovering so I'm not seeking a revision for a while so I can enjoy things ^w^>>43578218I did 2 rounds. First was all fat, second was fat + Renuva. There are a lot of challenges with a FTBA that I posted about on my twitter. You can usually get at most 1 cup size per operation.>>43577830I'm in Washington (it's on my profile), and there's a lot of trans healthcare that's mandated to be covered. Someone asked me this and I said "I think Amazon warehouse has good insurance". They got the job, 6 months in got all the surgeries approved, had them done, then quit
Just get surgery until you look like a tranny erin moriarty post-bogging
>>43576034>why not jus ge muh surjeerayWhy not everyone, sigh
>>43580568It does not work like that. Normally eggs are made when the girl is a fetus but ivg eggs are made when you are a grown male (trans woman) with a brick body, so the genes are not as if you never had male puberty but as if a man shaped woman had a baby. This is what scares me, having a little cis girl and then watch as her body morphs into same proportions as mine despite her being a natal female just becaude I passed those genes to her
>>43580627no need to larp as a tranny chud
>>43576632jelly of that fizeek, would love to be even a less lean but healthy bf% version of op, but at least I don't have the big gay brain miswiring, merely the unable to can one
>>43576034what the fuck is going on with the bellybutton
>>43576034no surgery for my biggest issue that can achieve a good enough result to mitigate itt. heighthon, would still be heighthon with leg shortening
>>43580647Sorry for being concerned about how my kids end up? Fuck you, cannot have any conversation here anymore. Maybe you have a nice ribcage but mine is bad, also my shoulders are wide and my face was ugly before ffs
>>43580655the hard truth is no physique will make you happy. It's all a cope. I achieved what is considered natty limit for men, something a lot would kill for and still got hit by depression. if I decided to troon out, I would still at some point look at myself and feel discomfort again. being obsessed about your looks won't make you happy.
>>43580769agreed on that one, thankfully I fucked up my health pretty decently, pretty early (26), so now all I want is to be healthy enough and strong enough for it to not get in the way of what remains of my life (romantic life, if any, included)
She went to db not mardi
>>43576034Who is she and what did she do exactly? she looks cute>>43576778Hi! I am also a $200k swe :3>>43576800In the middle of nowhere, why?>>43576874Keojampa?
>>43580762You're just assuming so much shit it's hard to take you seriouslyYou think that a kid is basically ctrl-v and it's really odd and wrong
>>43576034I hate this smug cuntI hope during her next adventure in vanity she becomes a statistic
>>43580658scariest twinkgut of all time
>>43581038Kids would have my genetics? They would have genetics of a woman with a male shaped body. You think bricky and ugly cis women don't have ugly kids?
>>43580590I don't voice train either so idk what's going on.
>>43576200'merica
>>43576436>>43576632how tall are you and approximately how much do you weigh in those photos? what sports did you play?
>>43576778>trannies slowly figuring out why American medical communities in particular are so keen on pushing the tranny narrative while the EU and UK are backpedaling as quickly as they can
>>43576436Sexoooooooo
>>43576436>>43576632Everyone please stop responding to this retard, he claims to be intersex and all sorts of other made up shit all the time. It's roids.
>>43576034Did she get clavicle reduction? I know she got her ribs done
>>43584058yes.
>>43584076Sigh. I will never have any of this. I wanna kill myself. I mean, my biacromial is 15, so that's not even really that bad for my height, 5'6, and all my other measurements fall within female averages, so whatever. Still. I need to be surged up. I need to Ship of Theseus my body into a new body bit by bit. I hate this corpse I was forced to animate. I wish I were a woman. I've been saving up for FFS with QQ lately, but his wait times are becoming increasingly long and by the time of my consult next year, I may have to wait EVEN LONGER. I can't keep boymoding. I'm considering taking a leap, buying a car, and getting a job at like Starbucks or Amazon (closest warehouse is like an hour and a half away, but I will manage it if it means I can have FFS) but I just don't know what to do, I worry it won't work out. I'm putting my whole life on hold. I don't want to go to college or really be anything to anyone until I can be a woman.
>>43576097>Why don't /ttt/ do fund raisers then we randomly select a pool of people that gets surgery?busy planning the communist revolution. tranny dictatorship first order is free college for surgeons, second is universal healthcare. gotta up the supply first to meet demand
>>43584398just get started on your life. Ive gotten surgeries and im still boymoding. try to have something to life for if your transition fails
>>43584430I don't want to enter college as a boy. I don't want to exist in society as a boy. I only work a job because I need to pay for my surgeries. And if I came out, I would obviously be a tranny and that's arguably even worse than just larping as a gay twink. I feel like I'm just stuck in a cage right now. However, yeah, I do agree. This is not a tenable position and I feel like there is a level of self sabotage happening. It's very possible I could be happier and healthier if I just put myself out there more and lived life like normal. I've spent half my life as a shut in because of dysphoria. I'm tired of feeling like an alien.
>>43584452boymoding in public isnt that bad. The pain when you get called he kinda fades over time.
>>43576858>>43576912I wish she went into details more how she got it paid by her company instead of "i can only vaguepost bc I would doxx myself if u knew..."
>>43584481Oh definitely, it's like a mask I put on or a character I play. A headspace of sorts. I become a different person when I'm a boy. I just don't want to build up a livelihood as a guy, go into college and a career, network, and so on. I also have kinda big boobs that show through even hoodies, so it is becoming increasingly hard for me to be just a regular guy. I couldn't wear formal attire to an event, for instance. I'm really scared for my future and am basically relying on my boyfriend to foot the bill of all the domestic matters of our lives while I fund my surgeries.
>>43584509if you don't pass, nobody cares about boobs. I have like b cups and have never gotten a comment on them. I don't make any attempt to hide them apart from wearing a sports bra
>>43576231you wasted yourself going from a top 1% man to a mid woman on a good day
>>43584587she is like 5'6" so never top 1%
>>43584922still, had symmetrical defined abs (very rare), veiny forearms and pink nips, couldve had thousands of women yet he chose to be a frankenstein's monster skinwalker
>>43584977I think she gets thousands of women still.
It just goes to show that people with failed transitions are ultimately the product of their own ineptitude. She is the exact opposite of the greasy NEET guy who goes on HRT and becomes a greasy NEET guy with boobs. If you are a high achiever and take care of yourself as a boy, you will do so as a girl.
>>43585082instead of qts now he can get fat theyfabs, trannies, ugly bisexual hoes looking for validation and viniger smelling chasers, all will pump and dump
>>43585105repper hands wrote this
>>43585105Not everyone has hundreds of thousands of dollars to drop on surgeries, especially in this economyI did my fucking best to secure a good job for myself but it's just not happening
>>43585132I think she is in a transbian polycule actually. not sure if the other members are hot tho.
>>43576034this doesn’t look healthy
>>43580485You’re a numale, jimmy.Just lie and get the surgery you want.Also, it’s only one or two people in top jobs that get that kind of insurance so why do you want meritocracy to get banned.Maybe the reason you look like picrel is because your ugly, whiner spirit. Sad really, I think as a twink I do a better job at keeping the spirit of being male alive.
>>43576034because i'm a heckin 42yo neet with no money no job no friends no hygiene no skills no intelligence no good looks to sell pictures of on onlyfans no clothes that aren't falling apart no car to drive away from my awful life and no courage to throw it all away and end it all
>>43576194what makes them uncomfortable is that the "after" picture doesn't look like an obvious hon to them. it's like a christian finding out God isn't real. you either cave and become an atheist or double down and double think yourself back into the comfortable illusion
>>43585286The idea that manhood has always been this beef face chunker mans with big rocks to lift and huge muscles to swing around is retardedMost people are set up somewhere in between classical Dionysian and appolonian physiques
>>43576063broke: gym max pretroonwoke: gym min posttroon bespoke: gym max post troon
>>43585333kek
>>43583716collage pic (now) 5'3 140single pic (7 years ago) 5'3 130i was already done with my sports and was only doing calisthenics back then>>43583759>roiding for thislmao
>>43580473>>43580530>>43580555>>43580627you are retarded and dont know how human reproduction and genetics actually works
I seethe as a poorfag but at least my face and voice pass ;w;
>>43583722So you support making trans healthcare more affordable then right? You aren't just concern trolling about people you hate and want the worst for, right?
>>43580485The insurance plans that pay for this literally do offer FMS and which. I agree that FMS should be offered more, though Testosterone can moid out the skull on its own, even for oldshits.
