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You don't have the same opportunities as everyone else and you're ostracized, so you don't get the same social life and milestones as cis people do.

I can't believe I am in my 30s already. My 20s are gone and it wasn't what people make it out to be. Mine wasn't really "carefree" or "time to experiment and have a lot of fun" or whatever that cis people talk about. I had to run from home at 18 from my dysfunctional parents. I spent most of my 20s in poverty or renting a room from someone else, moving every year or two. I was celibate for most of it when I wasn't doing sex work, not being hit on or getting to know guys and girls with natural attraction and connection, and not really hitting on others either due to the negative feedback.

Not a lot of friends. I spent most of my birthdays alone, didn't really celebrate holidays or go to people's homes for holidays or do anything for Christmas or New Years unless it was work related. I was homeless a couple times. I was in the military for 4 years, still didn't get laid or make a lot of friends. I never stepped foot inside a "real" college, I spent my time in community colleges or going to online school. I don't have a "career" and my resume is empty. My online college degree is from a degree mill, because this is the best I can do with the mental bandwidth I had remaining. I've been unemployed for 5 years now, with like two part time jobs where I worked for a while before getting fired for "lack of performance" and "likeability", and I am unsure if I will ever be employable and work normally. I am now on public housing in the hood and public healthcare now.

Sure these may not be directly due to being trans, but losing a lot of support and infrastructure due to being trans caused a lot of this.
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>>43576989
Did you actually have a lack of performance?
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>>43576989
I feel you. I hate this stupid life too. But I don't think it's related to being a tranny. It's became too rough for our generation. How are you getting enough money to shelter yourself and food now?
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>>43577142
>How are you getting enough money to shelter yourself and food now?

Public housing
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Youre a fucking loser whore lmao. I joined the military, got my masters degree bought land and started a company. Now I'm going to just keep doing that. Only problem is srs will probably need a new insurance plan. Life is shit for everyone. Being a tranny shouldnt have meant confusion and despair it should have meant no time or opportunity for bullshit.
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And i dont mean to disparage being a whore, but HOW do you whore yourself and also be poor? All you have to do is have sex for 200 dollars 240 times to afford ffs. Thats 4 months having regular sex twice a day. And thats not including gifts or sugar daddies buying you food or whatever. Idk im not a whore lmao. Like, if you were already a whore why isnt the sky the fucking limit? Stupid slut.
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really
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>>43576989
cope by victimhood
>>43577426
>>43577451
cope by striverhood
>>43577607
cope by crosspost attention whoring

to live is to suffer, what meaning will you find in it?
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>>43577695
what meaning have YOU found in it, oh enlightened one?
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>>43576989
same exact life except im hitting thirty in less than a week and im STILL in poverty and STILL celibate outside of sex work. and im gonna have to move again soon. life sucks big time.
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>>43576989
I should download Grindr before 30, but I need to give them my ID so I probably won't.
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>>43578242
why is grindr demanding age verification and ID while straight apps don't? They're trying to make a watchlist of all the gays so they can quarantine us and put us in concentration camps
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>>43576989
im 25. Lucky enough to have one family member that supports me. I used to have a job and dreams, but im back in the same house I grew up in, unemployed and completely burnt out. There is no happy ending for us
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>>43578762
I wish I had family members I can stay with, but I don't. They tried to get me arrested and was keenly interested in my death.

Also what happen to your job? It could be the economy, many people are getting laid off
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>>43579239
someone claimed I SA'd them ( I didn't)
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>>43578337
They did this to me as well bc I looked underage and was fortunate enough to create different accounts. When some 80 yr old trucker gets upset about not wanting advances or someone is called out about a certain topic, gays will be petty and report you as an underage user.
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>>43576989
>>Sure these may not be directly due to being trans
do not for a moment think it is not. the entire structure of society is designed to marginalise you. every single straight person you meet wants that for you. heterosexual logic runs on this hierarchical view where they have to be on top and we have to grovel for a fraction of what they have, because they consider themselves to be the species, and us to be undesirable drains on their productivity. this of course has nothing to do with reality, as one can plainly see from the hyperproductive sections where queerness is actually sometimes the norm, but they do not want to acknowledge that unless they have a gun to their head.

i have enjoyed comparative success as a faggot turned tranny. this """success""" consists in getting a university qualification i dont and cant use, getting a husband, and having on average 3-6 months of a year in which i work, in which some years i dont work at all. for some strange reason whenever i get into a job these people start getting ideas about what i am and what i arent which they then feel entitled to make my problem. somewhere along the line the boss gets it into his head that i "dont work" or that i "spend too much time on the toilet" or some other really obvious motive. theres nothing i can do about it, they feel entitled to this. atp im just going to apply for autism benefits and stop caring. theres no point in being anything other than self employed as a faggot.
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>>43578337
because gays and lesbians are the only people who actually dislike pedophiles, heterosexuals are fine with it as long as theyre successful
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>>43576989
I'm turning 40 this year and have been working poor my whole adult life. At no point was I ever a traditional masculine man, so nobody wanted to give me a good job. Why give a good job to this freak who is short and sounds like a girl but will never produce children so there's zero pressure for anyone to hire you. And that was before trooning out.

At the end of the day I have a niche in my local area where I will always have a job that I don't hate, and that pays just enough to live and save some money on the side. I don't have too much to complain about I'd say.
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>>43576989
>the best I can do with the mental bandwidth I had remaining
>losing a lot of support and infrastructure caused a lot of this.
mood
we were set up to fail, I only pray for karma
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>>43580102
idk man i know a couple gays who are uhhhh
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>>43583672
after so long spent in these places, i doubt that
unless its a grier situation
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>>43580102
kys bigot
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>>43583828
into the skinning chamber with you, kid toucher
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>>43577695
based cope diagnoser
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>>43583839
u r genuine subhuman filth of spiritual african descent
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>>43583883
racism isnt cool
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>>43583921
performatively anti-racist despite blacks being low iq faggot murdering machines who don't belong in western civilization, performatively anti-pedophile despite them being historical pillars of gay community and the most intelligent humanity has had to offer. you are very very lost.
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>>43576989
>public housing in the hood
how much is rent?
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>>43583949
wat
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>>43584033
no socrates no turing all your mind is just infested with thoughts of useless blacks instead of great pederasts.
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>>43584064
society not ready for this
millions of ex-twinks will have to confront that society "protected" us from rich old men who could have taken us under their wing and led us to glory while exposing us to the harms of unchecked low iq immigration
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>>43583963
free, but there is no kitchen, and the bathroom shared by 3 others who never clean and its someone's diarrhea on the toilet
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>>43584064
>>43584352
low effort psyop desu
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>>43583949
take your meds
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I transitioned in my teens over 20 years ago. I turn 40 soon. It's been rough. I spent my late teens and early 20s trying to figure out how to get money. No one would hire you when your background check returned "MALE" as it did back then. Dropped out.

Like you, I did sex work to survive. My life started turning around a bit when I met someone who helped lift me out of poverty. But it wasn't easy. I could never hold down "real" jobs. I kept changing careers, and could only hold onto them fir a couple of years at most. You get really good at seeing through people when you live this kind of life. People, when they find out, get vindictive. Cruel. Even so called allies.

I missed out on so much. Friends had careers, homes, could afford the necessities; and I was left begging and mooching. But, I had wild events and stories due to the ever shifting life around me. I currently live with an accepting mother, the one who threw me out as a young adult. I have hobbies. Life is different for us when we have accepting family and loved ones.

On the plus side unlike my friends, no grey hairs. I look younger than I actually am. Makes up for the crazy.

This is a very lonely and isolating path. A one way ticket to poverty for almost all of us. But at least I am me. I might not have a job soon due to politics. I finally got a place and career I am good at, and yet again, society takes what little I gather away.
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>>43584352
yup my parents gloat all the time about ruining a relationship i had as a 14 yo with a college grad who was doing v well in tech industry. now I'm a dropout loser tranny who can't get a job in the ai prompshitting jeet infested field. age of consent laws and the people enslaved to them ruined my life.
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>>43585878
>>43585562
they put us through so much pain and suffering having to start from scratch for no reason. i even succeeded beyond the metrics but it was never enough, they just shift the goalposts, and now in hindsight i can only imagine how different life could have been. all the suffering was meaningless. i was blocked from the people who would actually love me for who i am and forced to prove myself to people who never would.
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>>43585978
There are people who do love us. They are out there. There are even ones who will stick by us when the world suddenly turns on us, as many leave not because they don't love us, but because they can't handle the societal stress that we bring down upon the household. They are rare.

Back when I started, you only had a 1 in 4 chance of surviving to 30 as someone who transitioned as a teenager. Congrats. You survived the elder youngshit great filter. I know a few boomer younger transitioners too (think started in early 30s). Most did not survive, a lot of them were fired and committed suicide in homelessness, and those who didn't ended up destitute, but content.

The truth is, no one can understand who hasn't been through it themselves.
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And to the 89IQ mouth breather chuds in the audience who are about to narcissistically ree and clap about someone who has it worse, because, "hurrr, why would you do this if you knew you probably wouldn't survive"... that's how distressing not taking that leap is. That is how painful and distressing this condition is when left untreated. That 25% survival rate is greater than 0%.
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Now you'll be ranting your epic story to nobody while you drool on yourself in the dark in your rundown subsidized housing projects for the elderly. Grats I guess.
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>>43586062
>not because they don't love us
do you honestly believe thats the case? im in my 30s, and im now convinced ive been despised since i was a small child, and that nobody ever intended to let me live a happy life.
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>>43586264
I mean, I know people who *still* put up with and even love my crazy BPD ass. Immediate blood family. A few former lovers whom we end up in FWB(???) type situations with who will absolutely stand up to the bat for us. Says a lot when you are a wild woman ranting and accusing them of shit with bloody arms and wild eyes, and they *still* show up for you decades later. It can happen. Even though I still expect a betrayal.
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Don't give up. It gets harder as you get older.
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>>43586320
right, try to make something of yourself and at least establish financial stability while you're young. being trans can be cute and forgiven at the best when you're under 30 but past that, people expect you to "grow up" or "move out of that phase" and it's not so cute anymore
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>>43577426
I didn't realize we still had classical high-performance male type autogynephiles on the board
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>>43577426
still talking like a chud, no real woman talks like that
i bet you wear an amazon cosplay wig and gaudy makeup and think that makes you a woman
enjoy being a rapehon
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>>43585562
>No one would hire you when your background check returned "MALE" as it did back then. Dropped out.

It's still a thing. My last workplace did a background check and even handed me a printout of what they found on me. It didn't state gender but my old name showed up along with all the addresses I lived in. Why the fuck does the workplace need all that?
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I am FTM but all I did was sell my body in some way. Every single job I had, not even counting sex work.
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>>43587091
Transbians have an average of 127 IQ, if you play your cards right you can absolutely be successful
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>>43588821
+130IQ. IQ doesn't mean shit. You notice patterns and behaviors faster, learn easier, have sudden intuitive insight, but that's about it. What matters is being likable, popular, and getting along with others, and not shooting yourself in the foot. Things I am terrible at. Honestly, anything higher than 115~120, especially as a female, is a recipe for disaster. Lateshit rape hons like >>43577426 could never actually understand the struggle. She adopted the game late and privilege maxxed. Some of us are luckier than others. There is no shame in that, it happens. Just as how some of us don't make it as well off. Some of us are not motivated by money.

Sometimes, society punishes you for just being what you are, regardless of how hard you try, your capabilities, and what you do for others. Eventually, you stop trying, because the act is wearing thin.

>>43587983
I had to disclose at my current job because of security shit. A lot of dumb paperwork for a poorly paying passion project in a stem field. The job before that, the company owner figured it out after a few years due to me trying to get surgery a few times and then getting rug pulled. She showed me what her background check had on me. Apparently, my original amended birth registry name was so old it never showed up. I wonder if that's changed under Trump 2.
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>>43589051
idk if I can keep trying. I will need to be self employed at best.

How did you find the person who helped lift you out of poverty? Was it a john? I've done sex work but never got to an arrangement or more deeper level
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>>43589445
Yeah, it was a John. We met on a site for fetish work. We hit it off, became serious, got common law married. We're divorced now. Never trust a man who is trying to rescue prostitutes unless you are absolutely desperate for an out.
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>>43589599
ah yes, the captain save-a-hoe

what did he do that was so bad? was he controlling?

I've had a few men proposition to be my sugar daddy or "sponsor" me but I didn't get a good vibe from them or didn't feel ready or that I can handle something more intimate. I still wonder if I should've gone for it or if I spared myself from some really bad experiences. If I found a john who I had a good vibe from and I felt safe, I would go for it though. Just never met someone who gave me a good impression yet.
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>>43589884
Honesty, it probably saved my life. He was controlling, but it was what I needed at the time.
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>>43589911
You gotta do what you gotta do, because nobody is coming to save us. I dated men for protection and stability too even if I wasn't really into them, because they would literally have my back when I was being attacked (though they were volatile and abusive to me themselves, just not as bad as some other people who went after me). Otherwise I was literally alone and nobody else would help me. This was even before sex work.
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>>43586311
see ive only ever tried to do my best for others, but the idiots rarely know their own good and hate me for liking them. im glad youve good family tho, nona.
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>>43590415
not that anon, but ironically being a crazy disagreeable borderline bitch will make people accommodate you more and find reasons to like you, instead of being a do-gooder people pleaser. I am naturally an agreeable kind, I learned this the hard way. I have to be combative and kind of crazy if I want people to find reasons to like me.
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>>43589051
>Sometimes, society punishes you for just being what you are, regardless of how hard you try, your capabilities, and what you do for others. Eventually, you stop trying, because the act is wearing thin.
this desu. ive known since i was a teenager ive got til 30 as a male to carve out a niche before society decides i dont deserve to live. sure enough, i turn 30 and things start souring real fucking fast. people dont like faggots no matter what they pretend to think, and there is quite literally nothing you can do that will appease them outside of the moment. the only gay men who get to succeed in society are those who carve out high income, low desposability niches (MIC trannies are an archetype of this), or those whos sheer physical prowess means theyre indispensable for physical labour jobs (low likelihood of any femme bottom ever achieving this).

>>43590455
youre not wrong. im habituated to being a doormat because im good at weaponising that, but it just does not work outside of romantic/violent situations. pity is very good for getting mens sympathy and care if theyre of a certain nature, and very good for manipulating abusive peoples perception of self and social reputation in certain circumstances. im probably going to start taking oxytocin later this year and i hope it gives me the social stimulation i need to actually engage with that if i combine it with beta agonists.
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>>43590654
>>Sometimes, society punishes you for just being what you are, regardless of how hard you try, your capabilities, and what you do for others. Eventually, you stop trying, because the act is wearing thin.
I got to speedrun that as a kid, and was beaten into the "there is no future for you, no dreams are possible, nothing you do will make a difference" corner by the time I was in primary school. As a result, even when I did have opportunities later, I was sufficiently brainbroken to waste them.
Now I'm nearing 40, and things are not looking good. Maybe it's time to make that road trip to austria or slovakia to buy a shotgun
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>>43590654
what is MIC?
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>>43590718
military industrial complex

>>43590684
>I got to speedrun that as a kid, and was beaten into the "there is no future for you, no dreams are possible, nothing you do will make a difference" corner by the time I was in primary school.
i kinda got lucifered out of being one of the girls by puberty, which sucked and i was basically living out of my shadow for the entire duration of my teens. could be worse, i managed to psychfuck my mother into reverse dysphoria while cis by baiting her into physical vs psychological abuse, which i think is an appropriate revenge for trying to make me into a glorified non-contact sex doll. oh and i somehow managed to get dick during those years so, could be worse. i was an utter state tho, im gonna need surge to undo how badly i fucked my shit up during those years and thatll be hard to do while poor.

>even when I did have opportunities later, I was sufficiently brainbroken to waste them.
for me, its been consistently getting hit with the "you dont belong here, fuck off over to where the girls are". ive been getting that since my first memories of primary school and rare is the cis lass whos in any way sympathetic to a weird gay male.

>Now I'm nearing 40, and things are not looking good. Maybe it's time to make that road trip to austria or slovakia to buy a shotgun
dont waste good shells on you when theres people out there who need them more. have some empathy and turn the other cheek, nona.
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>>43576989
Anon you have no idea how hard this hits :( I’m 35 and I’m just not here anymore, I’ve been treading water now for 17 years job to job and day to day never feeling like I have a home or a place to go or be, socially stunted by my own doing, racked with guilt over being a failure and drop out, I consider it daily that I should kill myself im soo miserable that when I do get shown kindness it makes me nauseous and feel guilty, I can’t even blame my shitty life on the abuse and upbringing I’ve had anymore it was soo long ago and others who went through similar have overcome it, so like what the fuck happened to me? I kinda feel like this is a punishment for something I did, like why can’t I be normal and healthy? Why did I have to be born with fucked up insides and genitals? Why did I have to be gay or bi or whatever anymore? Why do I have to be a retard when every one of my siblings is normal and moves forward with life? Why am I so non functional as a person that I failed at killing myself, like am I that selfish or am I just a masochist at this point…. Sorry for the ramble
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>>43576989
>I was in the military for 4 years
Was with you until that. I hope you sui
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>>43591248
I’m sorry again for shitting up and posting again itt but I feel like I’m just spiraling out again :( I shouldn’t have blog posted problems I gotta go to work :/
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>>43590654
I'm technically a MIC tranny. Contractor. I have a rare skillset, so I am not easily disposed of despite being a BPDemon. I did the math. I make 46¢ for every dollar my coworker in the same position as me makes. I basically make minimum wage. But it looks like the bell tolls for me yet again.

Making yourself indisposable helps, but people will absolutely replace you with a moron if they just hate you. Being passible and pretty helps a ton too. But the beauty fades. Being a teen trooner helped me in life as much as it destroyed any financial prospects.

>>43591248
Fuck the world. Never kill yourself.
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>>43592296
>I did the math. I make 46¢ for every dollar my coworker in the same position as me makes. I basically make minimum wage. But it looks like the bell tolls for me yet again.
jesus christ, its that bad?

>>43592296
>Making yourself indisposable helps, but people will absolutely replace you with a moron if they just hate you. Being passible and pretty helps a ton too.
this is like, almost the entirety of my current dilemma. a 6k eur facelift in eastern europe may well entirely turn my life around through pretty privilege, but its completely inaccessible to me at present. im hoping a $70 order of oxytocin will alter my default social behaviours well enough to help me get even an entry level job, but im still waiting on money to come in from the meager sources of income ive secured for myself before i can place that order. my husband will pay for minor stuff like cheap body contouring and an expensive salon visit twice a year, but im locked out of almost all sources of income and thereby locked out of self improvement.

i genuinely do not think there is a single skill i could possibly acquire in life that would make me indispensable in the eyes of a normie, so ive 0 desire to try for another student loan or whatever. the entirety of my current plan for a future consists in "find a way to drug yourself into being more likeable"
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>>43592437
Yeah, I did the math. I'm hourly billing, as I am unstable and work erratically. Some weeks, I am maybe in for a couple of days and a few hours. However, I have the highest ROI, so I am *very* difficult to get rid of.

I do not recommend using drugs like that, as someone who was addicted to benzos for years.
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>>43591146
>dont waste good shells on you
fair point
>>43591248
>others who went through similar have overcome it, so like what the fuck happened to me? I kinda feel like this is a punishment for something I did, like why can’t I be normal and healthy?
>Why do I have to be a retard when every one of my siblings is normal and moves forward with life? Why am I so non functional as a person
mood
I'm closing the screens and gonna make another attempt to live instead of rot today
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>>43592511
>Yeah, I did the math. I'm hourly billing, as I am unstable and work erratically. Some weeks, I am maybe in for a couple of days and a few hours. However, I have the highest ROI, so I am *very* difficult to get rid of.
this is a genuinely terrifying thing to read, desu. i appreciate its unique to your circumstances but seeing someone with a MIC job that underpaid is quite the blackpill.

>I do not recommend using drugs like that, as someone who was addicted to benzos for years.
if this were benzos id agree with you, but given im currently struggling with the basic tasks of living as is and nothing in my life indicates a likely improvement any time soon, im inclined to work on my zotero collections and make informed medical decisions where i think they may be beneficial. atp im barely better than a druggy.
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>>43592437
>my husband will pay for minor stuff like cheap body contouring and an expensive salon visit twice a year, but im locked out of almost all sources of income and thereby locked out of self improvement.
dude wtf, a husband should be helping you when it comes to securing employment and stuff
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>>43592544
I'd recommend nicotine before opiates, Nona. Please. Get some 3mg Zyns or something. Anything but opiates.
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>>43592557
>dude wtf, a husband should be helping you when it comes to securing employment and stuff
he has but theres absolutely nothing that can be done for me. i had a job recently for about 4 months. one of my coworkers is an autistic old woman. she greets me and i try to be friendly to her, we do the usual autistic boundary testing stuff we do to establish that neither one of us wants to bother the other. following that, she proceeds to engage in sexual harassment, once to my face in which i call her out to it by pointing out that her thinly veiled inappropriate question isnt quite so subtle, and once to the entire work staff in telling everyone that one of my co-workers wondered if i piss stood up or sat down. a couple months after that the boss told my husband to tell me that "if i dont want to work i can go somewhere else". my work was just fine. the specific complaint was in regards to taking 5 minutes more than other people once or twice a week on an unpaid (this is illegal to begin with) bathroom break. given i dont want to be called slurs on the job or to put my husbands employment in jeopardy i took the not so subtle hint.

>>43592593
oh god i think youre misreading. oxytocin, not oxycontin. social salience hormone highly relevant to autism pathology.
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>>43592605
that sounds like an incredibly shitty workplace, I hope you two get lucky and an actually decent one opens up for you
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>>43592557
Oh, no, see, that's the fucked up part with this shit. They often stop having sex with us after bottom surgery. Happened to me. Happened to a few friends. They often like us where we are because we're easier to manipulate and control via our emotional and financial dependence.

They know this too. Why would they give us the keys to our freedom when we could potentially decide we deserve better and up and leave?

There are men out there who aren't like this when it comes to us, but a lot of trash men settle for women like us specifically because they know we are desperate and will absolutely put up with anything. Anything. For the bare minimum.

>>43592605
OH! Yeah, I was misreading.

You should've kicked that bitch down the stairs or done something petty and cruel. You were going to get fired anyways, may as well take your pound of flesh.
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>>43592626
>There are men out there who aren't like this when it comes to us
Reminds me of a funny story - ex moved to my country and it would take another week until she officially had her own place. I was very careful to not do anything that might be pushy in the wrong way during that week (it was an on again off again mess), as there's "a bit" of a power imbalance in that situation. Later on (also after I helped her figure out she could do better) she told me she was on the verge of breaking up with me over that. Moral of the story for the fellas is don't do power imbalance stuff if you're a moralcuck.
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I find aging as a trans person pretty based. You don't HAVE to live the default life because you're often kept out of it, so you can make your own way.
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>>43580085
>theres no point in being anything other than self employed as a faggot
/thread
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>>43592543
>mood
I'm closing the screens and gonna make another attempt to live instead of rot today
I might do the same, I went to work at 6am this morning, nobody was there, I was misscheduled and waited outside for like an hour and cried in my car like broke down full sobbing. It’s not even about them not being there I’m just constantly overwhelmed and like no matter what I do it’s just not enough , thankfully I was given a day off to just rest and reset myself
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>>43592693
>open my mouth
>speak from personal experience
>say the wildest shit possible apparently
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>>43592613
its not likely, the economys getting shittier and so is the homophobia and racism so, not good prospects.

>>43592626
cost of doing that would be my husbands job, and thereby our housing too. also realistically prison, because why wouldnt that be something that happens to me?

>>43592773
yeah but even then thats no magic bullet. you still need customers, and you still need a skill or product that isnt in competition with the entire globe.
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Oh wow, imagine not having been carefree in your youth. What an experience, unique to trannies
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>>43592693
>You don't HAVE to live the default life because you're often kept out of it
yep, I knew I was out of the game pretty early so now I'm enjoying the occasional silver lining
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i got lucky gambling my trumpbux and stimmy checks and im still living off the gains by keeping expenses low. in a few years there will be UBI thanks to ai taking all the jobs. its going to be good for those already used to being frugal.
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>>43593016
>you still need a skill or product that isnt in competition with the entire globe
not really. the blue ocean strategy sucks for bootstrapping (and I assume you're not gonna get VC funding).
look around, nobody cares about things. A lot of businesses just try to make a quick buck, never reinvest and are in operational disrepair. Just with good quality control and customer service, you can outcompete most of them. Pick a market, look at what the competitors are doing, take notes and just do it better. The customers will choose you then. No need to reinvent the wheel.
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>>43592999
Idk what this is you might have the wrong person
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>>43591282
the military is just the male version of becoming a stripper out of desperation
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>>43593966
Strippers kill brown kids?
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>work in (non-quant) financial services
>have to come out soon
It’s over
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>>43594088
both stripping and military are often last measure attempts to survive for desperate people, and heavily moralized by middle class outsiders while being a job that the same moralizers demand and benefit off of

everyone living in the modern west have blood on their hands except maybe the amish, but even the amish know they benefit from the infrastructure

why get mad at soldiers for selling themselves out like prostitutes and killing brown people when you benefit from the killing of brown people by drinking starbucks coffee and buying cheap chocolate while driving around in vehicles fueled by arab oil, and you're typing on a PC made with cobalt mined by brown kids. why do you think the dollar is dominant and you have more buying power than someone in venezuela? you think all this shit is free and cheap because other countries undersell themselves out of the kindness of their hearts? your consumption of goods in the west is already fueling the demand for violence, you're just outsourcing violence to the poor males (usually also black and brown like the civilians they shoot) who become cannon fodder for big oil companies and banana corporations

if you want to be sinless, go check out of the system. become like the unabomber and go live in the woods making your own shit and growing and hunting your own food
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thanks for speaking real shit nona. I'm always telling my girls, you lie cheat steal if you have to to survive, you have to fight for your happiness, especially as a tranny and you have no home to go back to and no family.
can be difficult sometimes with them though cause they don't get it, a lot white middle class girls. hard to fault them, love them all to death, caring and tender hearted dolls just alienating when you covert what they have, family, even if it's not frictionless, and a safety net. And the deep FEAR that comes with that. and you do what you can with what you got and you be pragmatic but fuck me something just has give sometimes mostly my sanity.
saving grace is that I look young and decently pretty so sex work decent for me
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>>43594629
I'm a vegan brown Swede who has never driven a car but sure
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>>43594747
if you're using a PC, you're part of the problem and the swedish country is protected by the US military via NATO article 5 so nice try

if you're vegan you get your fancy vegan ingredients from power imbalances with turd world countries too
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>>43595478
We joined NATO last year moron, we feel soooo protected thx to you scum

>vegan ingredients
Yeah like shit, potatoes!
Kys tankie I can just spot your bloodthirsty kind you can't stop yourselves as soon as you hear vegan to jerk off China or some other fascist hellhole
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>>43595564
what "we"? a brown swede is an oxymoron, you're an invader benefiting from the fat and labor of a different culture

looks like that veganism and lack of protein and vitamin b is getting to your brain, i am not a tankie and even i can figure this out
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>>43593966
i think its honestly tragic we never see guys do both
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>>43596276
so you want men to be both cannon fodder and sex workers? that's some ryona/whump shit
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>>43596652
i want to live in a world with men who do pullups by day and pole dancing by night
i think this would fix a lot of issues
the war is optional
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>>43596762
based



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