Was Bridget being made/confirmed trans ultimately a good thing or a bad thing?
>>43583769I'd say bad because it made the closeted gays who liked trap Bridget flip their shit about being closeted chasers now and screech and shit all over and about the game. Also while I in theory support a cute transgirl in a fighting game I think the retcon to make Bridget that was handled very poorly.
>>43583780Character development is not a retcon
>>43583769bad cuz it invited hordes of lowskill faketroon rapehons into fg genre who had to be catered to by dumbing down every game until they're unplayable for high iq trutrans queens like myself
>>43583781It looks bad because Bridget's story is that he was born in a town that thought second males were unlucky, and so was raised as a girl, otherwise they'd kill him. But upon growing up he decided he wanted to prove his manliness to convince them that this tradition is wrong. Strive has Bridget start questioning her gender and ultimately concluding she's a transgirl. The problem with this is that first part, the part where she had been raised as a girl from the start makes being trans look suspiciously like a product of socialization and not an innate characteristic/dysphoria. That is not a narrative you want spreading around.
>>43583796Oh, and the game also completely forgets about Bridget wanting this tradition to end in her town because of how blatantly wrong it is. Even if Bridget just happened through raw happenstance to turn out to be the one transgirl for as the second 'male' and so benefited immensely from just luckily getting raised as a girl (and not getting tossed into a creek,) she should still be very, very concerned for any future births.
>>43583769I would like to put my willy in her bottom. I don’t feel equipped to weigh in on her impact on society or individuals as an example of trans representation.
>>43583796Sure if you just ignore all the nuance of the story to cry about grooming. The entire point of Strive is that Bridget did not feel satisfied with either being a girl just to keep a curse at bay or being a man to prove the curse wrong. Divorcing herself from her village and decing her identity on her own was the whole point
>>43583820the village already changed when she brought home a bounty after XX retard
>>43583769I think it was a good thing because it caused several of my chud friends to self-report that they sometimes think about being a girl. One of my friends went on a several paragraph long schizo rant admitting to "having gender confused thoughts" and "experimenting a bit" when he was younger. Shit was so funny. Even to this day there's people still malding about it. >t. cis male
>>43583769It was the optics napalm of the century. You could smell the air actively staling around trans people the week when it happened. Genuinely I believe it helped the right win the culture war and contributed to the 2024 red wave. I don't want to hear anything about optics nukes until you can prove to me whatever weekly headline soured as many people on trannies as much as the Brisket Fever of 2022.
>>43583769bridget fans need to get a personality beyond being a transbian
>>43583769they killed a beautiful shota to create cringe quirk chungus smolbean trans bitch number 9999 so yeah it was a shame, bridget should be a beautiful bishounen right now after coming to terms with his masculinity. he also shoulda fucked may instead of them giving him that enby from hell.
>>43584071tranny is a much better outcome than bishounen i would've killed myself if I had to see adult man bridget. fucking disgusting suggestion.
>>43584071i actually wanna vomit reading this bishies gtfo your disgusting fetish is so rancid and I'd die before letting it paint over shota
>>43584079its a japanese game made by perverts, he wouldnt look like a man, he would be stylized as fuck, basically look the same as now just maybe taller and with a fancy outfit instead of that quirk chungus hoodie shit. though the idea of muscular shonen hero bridget is also funny as fuck.
>>43584091bishounen look like men
>>43584086shota only bitches concern me, like i might be a diddy foid but its not all i am. i have a wide appreciation of all specters of male bodies in japanese art. you bluds on the other hand, you are ONLY epstein diddybluds.
>>43584105genuinely kill yourself.
>>43584111sorry for not being diddy enough for u nonna i forgot on the 4chinz youre supposed to be maximum diddy nazi rapist at all times.
>>43584125you're also not allowed to use this website if you are under 18 or if you lack a penis but you can't follow those rules either clearly
Ultimately it's good. But I will remember the years when we made people uncomfortable calling him a her fondly.
>>43583769Tbh I don't really care, make her 2k2d true already so people won't dp out of it, also 5hh is so bad this patch, not even talking about how bad the jam matchup is. Free me from my suffering
>>43583769good because it encourages artists to draw her with boobs which I find incredibly arousing
>>43583769good thing solely for how much it made cis guys flip their shit>they turned my gay jerkoff sessions woke!!!
>>43583796nobody cares about the "lore" in fighting games this has always been a disingenuous argument
>>43584419>Guys it's not gay if it's a trap, I'm still straight!>What the fuck do you mean you made Bridget a GIRL? Now it's straight!
>>43583769nobody who got outraged was even a guilty gear player because nobody who loved +r and xrd could stomach playing that casual slop that destroyed the series
>>43583769I'm convinced they only changed him because it was the height of the conservative moral panic about drag queens grooming children and they didn't want the optics of releasing a sexualized depiction of an underaged boy. Reverse wokes managed to cancel themselves and then spent a year crying about it.
>>43583769I think it's fine in a vacuum and the character as she is now is interesting, but when considered with the past writing for the character, it only works as a very liberal reinterpretation of the story. That's not really much of an issue by itself, but it is something that you basically have to argue to justify. As far as Bridget's cultural impact, I have begun to realize that she is the mascot of baby trans or, at worst, modern Reddit/Twitter trannies who barely even have any dysphoria and think being trans is an identity and infantilize themselves with pastels and stuffed animals. Representation wise, I think Bridget is kinda shit. I mean there's the grooming angle, which is largely false but hard to argue against on a surface level. There's also the fact that the story in the game presents Bridget as questioning her gender and the entire arc is about her coming to terms with being trans, but it is such a surface level understanding of the concept and there is no real representation of the traumas and mental issues that transsexuals go through, not to mention the body modification side. Bridget just magically happens to look like a cute girl and her transition is as simple as saying "I'm a girl now teehee". Didn't even have a change of clothes. In all respects, I think Poison, insofar as fighting games are concerned, is a much better trans rep. The fact that her sex is ambiguous and Capcom perpetuates this ambiguity is exactly how the world should see trans women. Ono even once said that Poison is post-op. By all accounts, even if stripped fully naked, any observer could not tell Poison's birth sex. To apply real world logic, she's stealth, and that's largely the goal for trans women and has been for most of recent history.
>>43584580If anything, you could easily demonstrate the generational divide in trans women using Poison and Bridget. Poison is in a street gang, she fell in with a bunch of other dubious outcasts, sexualizes herself, got a sex change, and is now largely either a woman or an enigma to the passive observer. It really mirrors the 90s/00s tranny who had to jump through several social, legal, and medical hoops to get what they need to transition, and the general cultural understanding that one needs to go "all the way" in order to truly be a woman. We really don't think about it nowadays, but from the 50s to about the 2010s, there was this general idea among cis people (the few who even knew about trannies) that if you got "the surgery", you were just a woman now. That's why you'll see late transitioners prioritize SRS over something like FFS or more extreme body surgeries, because to them, vagina = woman no matter how manly you look. Bridget is the opposite. She comes out to a largely supportive environment, has a history of gender nonconformity, and is given free reign to question herself and seek out others for help. Like I said, not even a change of clothes. It's much more transGENDER than it is transSEXUAL. Bridget is a girl because she says she is, which is the consensus among young people now. If we're talking in all of gaming, I think some of the best trans representation is Osa and Tubarao from Rainbow Six Siege. They're a trans woman and a trans man respectively, and just playing the game and reading their bios, you would never know it. I bet the average 14-26 year old dude has no idea they're even trannies. And unlike Poison and Bridget, absolutely no emphasis is placed on their gender or sexuality or bodies. There is no dev coming out and confirming whether Osa has a dick or a pussy, there's no voice line talking about dysphoria or how Tubarao always felt like a man. They're just people, and that's what trans people are.
>>43584580Poison is a oversexualized hooker and kinda gross though.
>>43584744And the truth is that a lot of trans women are sex workers or pornstars. An not-insignificant amount of trannies today still do porn online with Onlyfans. Cis men wanna jerk off to us because we're exotic and it just so happens transitioning is expensive. This generation of trannies gets the luxury of not risking their life or health doing irl prostitution and can instead be bougie and post nudes on Onlyfans.
>>43584767That's not a culture or representation that should be lionzed or celebrated, it's a product of a history of abuse and objectification.
>>43584580>The fact that her sex is ambiguous and Capcom perpetuates this ambiguity is exactly how the world should see trans women.you are a coward
>>43583964trvke
>>43584782just because you depict a situation that exists in real life doesn't mean you're celebrating it. you're no different from small-brained conservatives who think every time a tranny simply appears in front of them is an attack against them
>>43584833I'm not the one advocating for the girl who got forced into prostitution to be her representative.
>>43584782That's fair. It's like if Capcom made a black dude who fought with chains. Then again, why do you think gold chains are such a big symbol in black culture? Sometimes there's a difference in representing or acknowledging an aspect of a group of people and glorifying it. I don't think Poison really glorifies prostitution. I think, in a vacuum, you can see it as her place in the world and just an aspect of her personality. She is also Hugo's manager, which you can further relate to the implication that she was a prostitute: she's not necessarily a whore, but rather she has a mind for enterprise and can spin her situation into an opportunity. Is selling yourself necessarily a moral thing? Not really, but I also don't think the writing of Street Fighter, especially for a side character, is that serious. It also helps that Poison is strong and sexy, these are not objectifying, they're her tools. That's why her character is built around sexuality. But of course, you can always argue that making a trans woman's character centered around her sex appeal is still a transmisogynist thing to do. That's why I said I think Osa is the best representation.>>43584792No, I'm just a woman, and I want to be seen as such, instead of some weird other thing. I don't mind people close to me knowing that I'm trans, but I don't want to advertise the fact to everyone else. My medical history is none of their business.
>>43583769good or bad for the trans community? no clue. But it is GREAT for me because I have always thought futa and traps were gay shit. Not like, bad, but if you liked traps or futa, you're gay. So being able to finally pin one of the most infamous traps to being trans pretty much made my point cemented since most people who liked traps/futa dont consider trans women real women for some reason. They would call chasers fags for it, esp on 4chan. So I got to throw their favorite trap in their face and it's been awesome.
>>43583769its good because its realistic. only hrt can prevent twink death and keep bridget looking cute uwu
>>43584970What if like traps but specifically traps fucking and dominating women?
>>43585115a little gay, but we're talking like...liking your male friends cologne a bit too much that you intentionally get close to him multiple times through your hangout just to get a whiff. not gay enough to suck dick, but micro gay. kinda gay to like a guy wearing and looking like a chick, but not actual gay to want to suck his feminine pee pee
not that i care about guilty gear, but call it what it is: femboy erasure :\
>>43583769bridget is a worse version of marina. Someone's neurosex is innate but not necessarily aligned with their assigned sex. A random baby being assigned to the gender role that is opposite their natal genitals is most likely not going to randomly fit into that role. Bridget as it stands now fits the narrative of groomer trannies changing the genders of young children. The story would have been a lot stronger if it was used as an allegory for transitioning from your assigned gender (bridget was assigned male) into one that fits your mind but breaks away from society's assignment (bridget's brain is almost certainly that of a cis male if her twin brother is a cis male)tl;dr bridget should have come out as male, and this could have been treated as an allegory for ftm transsexuality
>>43585315*(bridget was assigned female)
Its a 2d video game character dude.. this shit does not matter
>>43585331The only real answer
>>43583769idk i don't play smash bros.probably a good thing ig for tranny representation thoug!
>>43585315>bridget is a worse version of marinaHey, I've also made that comparison
>>43584912like it or not you are a trans woman and you trying to hide it proves you are ashamed of what you are. learn to actually like yourself. we shouldn't have to feel ashamed of the facts of our birth and what we had to do just to survive. you didn't create the cis society norms that make us have to hide ourselves but you are defending them
>>43585331>walks into a church>"god is a character in a book. this shit is does not matter"
This game has sucked since Xrd and the real reason for this and other redesigns is that Daisuke is a chaser now
>>43583769its a good thing because tgirls make me hard
Bad for the character's story.
>>43585643stop praying to femboy bridget, it's just a mid fighting game...
>>43583769Disastrous, has made going to offline FGC events way worse of a experienceBridget bandwagoners have been worse for the FGC than Covid
>>43586960i think this is true actually, even if i accept the change. i remember going to this one convention in 2023, and when i went to play ggst on the tables set up in the game area, it was just turbo agp troon one after another. all played bridget. all couldn't have made it past floor 5. they only played because of that character, but obviously didnt even try to learn. sad.
>>43587014yeah and these people are kicking out those who have been dedicated to the hobby for over a decade cancelling them over actually liking the games or characters in them
>>43583769guilty gear is shitty now and it makes me sadi miss blazgreen...
>>43588646aris was righthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzez1RcYvDc
It was an obvious grift in the same flavor as when Dumbledore was made gay. Its largely negative just because of that. Otherwise? Still would smash Bridget. Nothing's changed. People who've changed their minds somehow over it are shitters.
>>43583964absolute TVRTHNVKE, it also caused an influx of trannies to completely latch onto the community and turn everything rotten similar to how a still pond of water eventually turns into a disease soup>>43584510also this, I have around 5K hours in all 3 games combined and the reason **I** dislike it is because like I said it caused an avalanche of entitled spoiled sheltered vindictive toxic incel-to-transbian mutts to take over the communities of all 3 games and to this day they're acting with hatred, cultism and negative self awareness>>43586960another TVRTHNVKE>>43590549you don't have to, BBCF is still alive>>43590558when is he notLong and short of it is that I'm glad bridget got retconned because it was a nice mask-off moment for all the troon infested vidya circles like fightans, or retroslopattention grabbing image, irrelevant time wasting blogpost that replies everyone
Mai is better
>>43585643Unironically this
Every tranny I know that said fighting games weren't fun picked up the game when Bridget was announced trans. Then they played for five hours then never again. TransBridget is the most obvious marketing scheme and it's funny watching posers fall for that. If you wanted true feminine power, you woulda picked Baiken anyways desu.
>>43583769shhhh keep it a secret but i am friends with one of the twitter femboys who wont stop bitching about it. my life is made worse by his bitching. so take it back. take it back now. i was excited to see bishounen bridget with a 16 pack and a sexy twink demeanor but now its just merch milking, shitty reddit memes, and my obsessive friend malding over bridget having tiny little titties
>>43585315also holy shit i agree with you majorly ive been saying this for ages
>>43584136>t. diddyblud nazi racist with a penis
>>43583769I think it was a good thing but really all I care about us Goldlewis in the arcade mode not getting it but trying his best, that was sweet
>>43583769was she originally a wish fulfillment of a repping nip involved in the production?
I don't think it matters anyone because at this point everyone who plays guilty gear is a chud or a chaser but these weirdos won't stop nuking tranny optics from low orbit
>>43593152Originally, Daisuke claimed it was because there weren't any cute male characters in GGNowadays, he says she was always planned to be transWho knows when he told the truth
I just miss Kliff man...
>>43593199kekmao
Honestly, I'm a straight guy and a chaser so I just started fapping to her