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I know that conversion thearpy is labeled as not moral or impractical or whatever, I don't really care.

I am currently bisexual and I hate being a faggot, I wanna be straight again like i used to be, I don't believe the bullshit like "you are being born gay, you just discover it after time", that's a bullshit cuz I was always disgusted by faggotry and gay porn, and i still don't really like all the pride marches and shit and I'm still neggativish towards troons.

I don't know if this is a coincidence or I'm just being a retarded but i started turning gay after I started using 4chan on daily basis which was like year and a half ago (yes I'm a tourist). I really hate being bi especially in a super religious and conservative country I live in.
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>>43596592
Why do you hate being a faggot lol
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All you can do by trying to stop liking men is make yourself feel guilty all the time
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>>43596604
cuz it sucks, after i turned bi i realised that I basically have no friends anymore, I really didn't have much before but now it's even worse cuz, if at least one guy will find out that I'm a bi then my familty will find out and if they will then they will fucking disown me
>>43596608
I kinda do
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>>43596592
>>43596628
get on estrogen so you can be a straight woman instead of a gay man

as long as you pass you'll be fine
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troon out disgusting faggot
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>>43596651
lol even if it was a valid idea I don't think getting an estrogen where I live is possible
>>43596669
I think if i'll troon out i will be even more disgusting than i already am
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>>43596628
Get better friends who are chill with you being bi instead of trying to befriend lames
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>>43596628
You wouldn't have friends regardless of gay, bi, straight. It's you.
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>>43596592
If you're actually bisexual and not gay then you can simply not act on your same sex attraction and just date women instead, while still acknowledging you experience that attraction because repression will twist you.
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>>43596592
You don't know how lucky you are to be gay. I came in to have to contend with being attracted to women. Women know when men are attracted to them and they treat them like shit because they think they got them by the balls, literally. You can never be feminine around women because they always try to out-femme you. If you are gay, then you got women by the cunt, they feel hopeless and the feelings of being unattractive to a male drives them crazy, yet they compromise by accepting you as an equal.
Men hate gays because they know gay men are free from the female sex attraction draw.
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>>43596592
Conversion therapy is gigaretarded but even by your logic you wouldn't really need it since you're already attracted to women
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>>43596735
literally none is like this over here, even the atheists, even the people who are considered liberal here would still be viewed as far right in western europe and america's
>>43596782
thanks pal
>>43596789
I don't date anyone never did and probably will never do, and especially I won't date anyone in my country, everyone is religious af and im like super atheistic and insecure and i never make first moves, so no
>>43596805
bro what... I think that's just how you cope with the problem of being gay but i don't wanna cope I wanna be straight again
>>43596860
the problem isn't in the "well I can at least date women" i don't care about it, the problem is if at least one person over here would find out about it, it'll be over for me
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>>43596875
>literally none is like this over here
It's okay to be alone baka
Not everyone is worth pandering to
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>>43596945
i know bro, I live alone and I like being alone, so that's like how I am surviving this long.
being alone is fun but talking to people is like scary, it used to be boring and annoying but now it's scary
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You literally cannot make yourself be straight. All you can do is pretend for a while
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>>43596592
Obviously you can't change your preferences without destroying your psyche. Would genuinely be easier to just go to therapy. Or like... be gay?
Just admit that you've always been a woman and then the pan/bisexuality is normal and your "gay" panic can be replaced with pure hetero housewife bliss.
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>>43596875
You want to be a slave to some woman?. They'll never treat you as an equal, they always make you be the man in the relationship. Be stuck being a drone the rest of your life
Being trans that's all debatable, but being gay is a real emotion about your sexuality. It insulates you from being treated as an inferior by women
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>>43596971
if one can turn gay then he can turn back go straightness
>>43596977
therapy costs money and I'm broke, i curently am studying in university and financially being supported by my parents
>>43596988
no I don't want that I think I made it clear, all I want is to be straight again, and as I said, im bi not fully gay
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>>43597027
You didn't turn gay.
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>>43597038
I turned bi, and as I said I don't believe one is always gay but discovers it after time, that just can't be true, it makes no sense.
how can you be disgusted by faggotry and fags, and then one day be like them
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>>43597027
You want to be a woman's little drone? You want to be her little honey do man? You want to live the rest of your life being a slave to some woman?
I'm lucky cuz I'm totally gay. Most of the guys particularly the trannies are jealous of me because I don't have to contend with women. I have no sexual desire for women. I'm free of that one sided sexual urge.
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>>43596592
if you're not completely bottom - you're good just hit the gym
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>>43596959
If you're cis you'll be okay
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>>43597079
nigga I said multiple times it's not about belonging to anyone or finding a date, it's about being straight again, being turned on by hot women, not hot men, even if i were a 2 meter tall gigachad I would still refuse to date any women over here since they all believe in our "lord and saviour jesus christ" and I am very against religion in general, not that I hate bible and shit, I just don't find it like attractive way of living yk?
I don't believe in love, I don't believe in dating, I don't believe me finding a date is possible and never did, people like me are destined to be alone, but I want to just stop having boners when thinking about guys and have boners only on women
>>43597107
Im not completely bottom, im more top than bottom but still sometimes like the idea of being fucked in the ass which is not good and that's what I wanna get rid of, and also gym is another big no no, I'm a lazy ass, I sleep 10 hours a day and sit in front of my pc all day
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>>43596592
its not being a faggot that you have to 'fix' but rather your retardation
this advice applies to all the reppers
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>>43597135
could you elaborate?
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>>43597129
would you bottom for a woman?
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>>43597129
You want to be a funny little man who sexually programmed to serve women. Think about it, that's what you really want to be. You want to be sexually so turned on by a woman, you can't make a choice about who you love. You'll just be a slave to a woman!! She will own you and never feel as attracted to you.
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>>43597179
I am into femdom so I guess so, yeah but as I said i don't wanna date anyone, I wanna stay virgin gooner and straight
>>43597185
funny way of describing the problem I started talking about
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>>43597210
>I am into femdom
ah nevermind you're doomed
better look for suifuel
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>>43596875
>is if at least one person over here would find out about it, it'll be over for m
Then maybe don't tell anyone?
Do niggas nowadays just not know how to take shit to their graves?
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>>43597210
That's how women are taught see men. Women don't have your sexual appetite. They learn about it from their moms and they understand that they can overpower you because you have a sex drive and they don't. I can just sit back and take up the benefits you're the one that has the impulse to have sex. At least another man you're on equal footing
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>>43597255
<niggas

Your negro talk does not make it cool; it just makes you sound stupid
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>>43597235
fym im doomed, Im not planning on finding a girlfriend and most likely will never do so, I don't go out, in the university I always sit alone, do not interact with anyone, do not participate in group projects and trying my best to not get approached

>>43597255
nigga r u ragebaiting?

>>43597257
do you have problems with understanding what I type? I think I said several times very clearly that im not interested into dating a women

genuinely wtf is wrong with y'all, I asked one thing, only one, how to be straight again and all I hear is just "accept it and be quiet about it", "troon out", "oh so you wanna be women's slave" and etc, fuck no, I wanna be straight gooner virgin guy as I used to be, alone and untouched and still have loving family, I don't wanna lose virginity cuz i think sex is overrated and stresful (stresful as in finding a partner, I don't wanna bang a hooker), I don't talk to girls nor guys cuz i always was introverted and closeted, i like being alone and i wanna live alone my entire life, taking something to grave is cool and shit, and as i said im being quiet for over an year now, but eventually someone will find out something, like maybe this post which was posted from my fucking laptop or something else, in fact it already happened once but I just made joke out of it and made it look like everything is okay, I think in a long term perspective, not how I will do this month or next but like how will it all be next 10 years for example
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>>43597159

>Boohoo, I find men hot, what a tradegy, my life is ruined, sob sob

Shut the fuck up, bitchmade retard!
I don't get how many people are so fucking retarded to be upset and cry over something like this. You're not even religious (a retardation in its own way), so not like you're afraid that you'll go to hell, you've got no reason to think like that.
Homophobes are some of the most retarded people out there and homophobic fags are the most retarded out of them.

Being attracted to men is not the reason you 'have no friends anymore'. Your family are retarded homophobes? Well hopefully you don't plan on relying on them for the rest of your life, that's a miserable existence.
Work towards becoming independent and living your own life, finding friends who actually like you for who you are, you should be doing that anyways, if you don't then you'll just find life unbearable forever. And ye, it's gonna be hard. But that's life, if you don't try then you've already failed.

Find some real problems to cry about, actually it seems that you've got them and decided to blame them all on being bi or whatever, that's a brainlet behaviour. Recognise your problems for what they actually are and then you can take steps to solve them. Good luck with getting to a better spot in life, but the first step is dropping the retarded mindset.
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>>43597343
But you want to feel like you have a need for a woman? A sexual need for a woman? It will drive you into begging for women to pay attention to you!
They'll have you by the balls and they will know that you're easy for them to pick and choose.
They will make you into their little man. You will have to do all the male things in life, all the hard things.
If you want to live with a man slave to a woman, go ahead
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>>43597027
OK, what? This is a joke right?
You're bi, and you just want to be straight?
Then don't fuck men? If you ACTUALLY don't want to fuck men, then you won't fuck men??
I'm so confused. Do you seriously think this is a choice? Why are you struggling so hard if it's just a choice?
If you were honest with yourself you'd have access to specialized queer resources to help with this exact issue, free therapy, a better community etc. You'd probably have friends too. This weird toe-dipping external-internal homophobia is probably the ickiest thing I've come across in a few days.

>>43597129
Sounds like you should leave the house then? Maybe move to a new city? If you hate Christianity why tf would you live in a bible-thumping town? You were never straight. You will always find men attractive.
Seriously dude, just download grindr already and get it over with. You can be one of those bedsheet gloryhole warriors, nobody would ever know it was you. Better yet, realize you're trans and you can probably get a new identity, start over, forget about legacy. Would you rather live in a world where love doesn't exist? Or a world where love can include getting your shit pushed in by your best friend while your gf rides your face/blows you?
Cause I really hope you know most adults are capable/willing to keep a secret.

>>43597055
Cause homophobia is taught? Literally all forms of disgust are taught. Kids would play in shit if we didn't tell them not to. Every movie/TV show/game you grew up on had a punchline about how expressing emotions, sexuality and gender is BAD.

I came out as gay the day I learned what it meant (10) i had already been screwing around with boys for years. I came out as trans when I was 13. I didn't WANT to be either of them, I tried to push myself back into the closet, into "normalcy." This stunted me so hard that I still have not mentally recovered almost a decade later. Seriously dude, save yourself some time, go be gay. Really really gay. Buy a dildo.
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>>43597360
I don't think you'd be talking that way if you had to live where i live, maybe it would've been easier if i wasn't closeted insecure guy which I am and always was, the thing is I love my parents, they did everything for me and I don't wanna disappoint them, and no i don't plan on relying on them forever but I don't want to like stop being liked by them, and you say go find friends who like you, in a country where like at least 80% of people will label me as traitor of the nation

>>43597410
1. therapy costs money and I ain't gonna be open about my sexuality over here

2. I am broke I live in a campus, which costs money and the cost of is paid by my parents

3. That is one way to cope about it
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>>43597468
You're acting like you live in a third world country and we all know you're not. Talk like a typical American
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>>43597507
I live in georgia (the country not state) eastern southern europe, or west asia, idc call it whatever u want, i prefer to call it just caucasian country
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>>43597468
If it's as bad as you say it is where you live, you qualify for refugee status in most western nations.
Internationally there are therapists and psychs who give their time charitably over disc and other platforms.

Seriously, what hellscape do you live in where you're this convinced that there's no way out while you self-admittedly lock yourself in a room for 10 hours a day. If you cant afford therapy, do some drugs. You'd probably really benefit from a big dose of MDMA and a tranny to blow.
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>>43597468
I'm talking that way precisely BECAUSE I lived in a place like that. Now I live somewhere else and I'm much happier for it.
Living in a shithole is your problem, not being bi. You can change the former, not the latter. Not immediately of course, but you're in uni (you speak good English too), so that's already a good first step to changing it. It's not going to be easy. But continuing to live under these conditions forever is even harder and it WILL destroy you.

You love your parents, so would you stop loving your dad if he told you he's bi? Probably not (the other option is, again, retardation), so they should be held to the same standard. Your parents are people, like all people they are flawed. If they don't love you because of who you are then yeah, it's horrible, but it's on them, it's not on you. You're not the problem, they are, as hard as it is to accept.
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>>43597580
I just said I live in georgia the country, and asking for a refugee status in europe is funny, i guess u really are not reading what i said before, I love my parents and I don't want them to know about this, I think they will easily find out why I move to western europe, and also moving out seems even more stresful, I need to finish university here and get a degree first, I need a job and like to live on something, I don't think that's a valid Idea, I need like some way to become normal by not going too far away from my home
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>>43597650
>love my parents and I don't want them to know about this, I think they will easily find out why I move to western europe, and also moving out seems

Earlier you said you didn't want to have any kind of sexual life. If that's true, what difference would it make if feel gay, or not? Keep your sexual feelings private and your parents will never know. Graduate from college then move away unless you want to stay a kid forever. In that case, maybe you need to do with the transgender women doing here and take our own to control your sexual appetite. The main reason transgender women take female hormones is to control their sexual appetite, to feel sexual like women and not so strong like men
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>>43597519
Then leave the country once you're done with uni? I don't understand what's so troubling here.
Like boo hoo, you're gay? Welcome to the club. It means literally nothing to anyone other than you and your dumb ass parents.
Idgaf what they've given you, if they can't accept the IDEA of what you do (or sadly don't do) in the bedroom, they don't love you, and they never will. If they don't know this about you, then they don't know you at all. I'll save you some money, any good therapist would tell you that you ARE gay, probably trans too, and that your parents are frankly abusive and controlling.

>>43597650
Yeah, you can't get refugee status, cause you're not in danger, you're just too scared to stand up for yourself cause you're worried mommy and daddy might yell at you for a week or two. Practically cucking yourself, both sexually and mentally. Just go find a trooner discord to creep around in while you avoid the phonecalls from parentals. You need to be exposed to more of your own culture.
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>>43597650
Speaking from experience, moving out is easy. Getting away from an abusive relationship is not.
Your fear of your own sexuality is caused by your parents toxic repression. It cannot heal until you unburden yourself of that weight/guilt.
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>>43597750
also earlier i said that i am thinking in the long term perspectives, i am hiding my faggotry from there for over an year now, but Im sure i won't be able to hide it forever


>>43597783
1) it costs money, a lot of money, average wage in georgia is 800$ a month

2) nigga they will not yell at me they will turn their backs on me keep in mind they are all super conservative and religious, not american or western european conservative and religious, it's much more
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>>43597809
nigga for a momment imagine you have less average wage than minimum wage in fucking poland, and then imagine how would you move to a different country and also keep having money for food and living place
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>>43597830
Do what trans women do, take a testosterone blockers. You don't need hrt to make your body female. Just get away with your sex drive
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>>43597830
>nigga
you are American
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>>43597859
amazing plan, might work

>>43597886
no im not, im caucasian, im georgian, the country of georgia, i jusst use that word cuz idk, i just got used to it, i talk a lot with americans on discord, i rarely talk to other georgians
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>>43597650
Men being attracted to other men is normal, what is not normal (but sadly common) is the society's collective retardation consisting of hating, for absolutely no good reason, men being attracted for other men.
You're not stuck there forever. You'll have university education. Georgia is in the process of joining the European Union. Sooner or later, you'll find a way out if you look for it. And you should look for it.
Sure, moving far away is stressful, but nowhere near as stressful as living in a country which hates you. People are forced to move far away all the time throughout history. Often it's even harder for them than it's going to be for you. It sucks, but it happens. Whether it's because of natural catastrophes, external war, or internal 'war' of one part of the society on another.
If your country is 'waging a war' on you and people like you, then the best thing you can do is to leave and tell them to go fuck themselves and eat shit. You don't owe them loyalty. They don't deserve your love.

>But now we must pack up every piece
>Of the life we used to love
>Just to keep ourselves
>At least enough to carry on
- Holland, 1945 by Neutral Milk Hotel
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>>43597849
Nigga I've literally been homeless for 3 years. I haven't eaten in two days. Suck it up. A roof and food is the least of your worries, you can't think for yourself.

Do you want to be free? Or do you want to stay in Daddy's wallet?
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>>43597921
We understand what you're lying about. People from Georgia, the country, do not say nigga
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>>43597830
Nigga said "boo hoo but I might lose my allowance" as though he isn't talking to the most homeless board.

I wish my biggest worry was refusing nepotism.
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>>43597960
Hmmm I wonder where he could've learned that.
YOU'RE TALKING WITH HIM ON 4CHAN YOU FUCKING RETARD, BIG FUCKING MYSTERY
They have internet access in Georgia, it's a shithole, but not THAT much of a shithole...
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>>43597960
Georgians have n word pass
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>>43597937
turkey is in the process of joining EU for over a decade now, not that much promising you know, and I can't blame the goverment anything, whenever there was a pride march here, it was being protected by the police but protestors were too angry and there were too many of them so yeah, not that much of a hope for that

>>43597947
teach me how to then

>>43597985
>>43598007
thanks for the help pals :3
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>>43597985
it certainly makes them into a moron negro moron
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>>43598028
>>43597985
Also i forgot to say, Georgia is not a shithole country, it's not third world, not first world either, just cuz they hate fags doesn't mean the country is bad, and what is even more weird georgians hate only georgian fags, so if some american troon fag came here as a tourist georgians wouldn't mind, but if another georgian decided to show that then he'd get beaten up, it's like a national pride, like "no georgian should be gay" or something like that
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>>43598028
It's not an instant fix, will probably take years until you finally have the balls to just be authentically yourself.

You have to play with your ass like it's normal. You need to kiss men on the lips, with tongue. Just do normal gay ppl shit. Go shopping and get an ice frapp you basic whore.

This "wah wah, I'm such a faggot" shtick is confusing at best and lowkey insulting most of the time.
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>>43598156
>You need to kiss men on the lips, with tongue.
ain't happening dude, my plan is to avoid every possible human being (except my parents and siblings).
>Go shopping and get an ice frapp
I don't like spending my money much and idk wtf is ice frapp
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>>43598028
>>43598090
If not through EU, then through work, through education, through whatever other means. The important point is that if you won't look for it you won't find it. The worst thing you can do is decide that you're better off without it and not even looking for opportunities to improve your life. I promise you it's not impossible, but it's going to be impossible if you just refuse to even consider it.
>just cuz they hate fags doesn't mean the country is bad
It does, especially for fags - and guess what, you're one of us and will be no matter how hard you try to repress it. It doesn't work, self-denial just degrades your brain further and further, it's self inflicted retardation. And it's the ultimate cuck mindset, just think about it - 'oh, these people hate me, they're not so bad though, it must be my fault'. Fuck that and fuck them! You wrote you hate religion, if it was fundamentalist christcuckery instead of homophobia would you also have that pathetic cuck mindset, 'oh no, they hate me for being a non-believer, how do I force myself to believe in God even though I know it's bullshit'?!
>but if another georgian decided to show that then he'd get beaten up, it's like a national pride, like "no georgian should be gay" or something like that
And you honestly don't see just how incredibly retarded that is?! Use a bit of critical and independent thinking. That's how you overcome deep seated retardation before it completely rots your brain.

>>43598039
Well yeah, since he's posting on this website.
But the same applies to you, me, and everyone else here.
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>>43596592
no it's labelled ineffective and abusive
people can't turn off the gay, they just marry a woman they hate and pretend it's not cheating because poop noodles don't come from real sex
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>>43598313
I do see how retarded it is, i just can't do shit about it, and i don't wanna risk doing anything about it, as it seems, doing absolutely nothing is safer, but i was asking for advice here cuz im not sure if my current strategy will be valid in long term, and also no it doesn't mean that country is bad cuz fags are hated there, there are many countries which are rich and developed but not being fag-friendly
>>43598341
I don't wanna marry no one, i don't believe in marriage, marriage is retarded and there's no reason to marry anyone especially if u r not religious.
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>>43597849
>nigga for a momment imagine you have less average wage than minimum wage in fucking poland
>>43597830
>average wage in georgia is 800$ a month

Wow, nevermind, you're right, what an amazing country, totally not a shithole!

>The society hates me for who I am, I'm also poor and miserable. I love this place so much!!!

Being bisexual is not your problem, your problem is called Stockholm Syndrome.
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>>43598341
If you've never LITERALLY fucked the shit out of someone you're practically a virgin, imho.
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>>43598418
shithole country is when ur average wage is like 400 or less USD in month, where is no freedom of speech at all and etc, there is no like serious laws against faggotry in georgia, in fact goverment was trying to support fags and shit, it just majority of people were against fags (including me like 3-4 years ago), so they had to do something about it and they just banned pride marches to not cause any violent crashes

like technically you still can like come out and yell "give fags rights" and police will be on your side to protect you, but no police can protect you from angry religious crowd
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>>43598313
>the same applies to you, me, and everyone else here who thinks being like a negro is cool
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>>43598500
Like autism, shithollery is a spectrum. There's smaller shitholes and bigger shitholes. That there's bigger shitholes doesn't make your smaller shitholes less of one.
The threshold is if your life in the place is tolerable.
It's not - you're on the verge of becoming a schizophrenic hikikomori and the next and final stop on that train is harakiri.
Look to change trains while you still can...
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>>43598403
You sound miserable and intent on finding the only path WITHOUT a solution. So your plan is to just repress your thoughts until they become so loud that you're thinking about sucking cock 24/7? You think never addressing or interacting with your sexuality is going to lead to PERSONAL GROWTH?
If love doesn't exist and you don't believe in marriage then why does your sexuality matter at all? Couldn't you just be asexual then? Why stress about this at all if "it doesn't exist" and "doesn't matter"?


>>43598500
No, shithole country is like 2000 USD or less a month.
You know cost of living is almost 100k a year in most western nations right?

You're describing Qatar, or North Korea. I'm genuinely struggling to imagine any countries that fit your idea of "shithole" without entering satirical despotic rule.

I'd rather live in fucking Russia than Georgia. Cause at least I wouldn't be alone AND broke.

You live in Europe. Im sick of hearing this "it's too expensive to move" shit, you could literally WALK to Germany my nigga. You could explore most of the civilized world for a few hundred dollars. It's 120 dollars in gas for me to get to the next city with a population of over 100,000. There is no train that takes me there, closest stop still costs 100 dollars each way.

You know some of us have loving parents who died fighting for our rights? And you're worried about disappointing yours, who dont even know you? You know most of us go to sleep hungry, and fall asleep under bridges, right?

Any "prosperous" society that looks down upon faggotry is by its simplest definition, fascistic. You're using us as a scapegoat for practically all of your problems.

Shame. I bet if you were straight you'd have no problems with moving out.
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>>43598674
according to your logic shithole can be any place where i don't feel good, but objectively speaking country is shithole if the majority of people don't like being there, which is not true for georgia as long as im aware, so it's not a shithole, i don't rate stuff or places subjectively, just cuz something isn't working for me doesn't mean it's bad

>>43598726
1) Sexuality matters cuz i still have boner on gay stuff and i should not.
2) you know that these western countries are minority on the world map right?, I am comparing georgia not only to western european countries and USA, im comparing to every country that exists there, and by far georgia is much much better place to live than like 60-70% of countries imo.
3)
>I'd rather live in fucking Russia than Georgia. Cause at least I wouldn't be alone AND broke.
Idk if you know but even tho google says that average wage in russia is like 85k rubbles which is like 900 USD you gotta keep in mind that this average is mostly cuz there are many rich corrupted politicians and billionaires and also moscow citizens, if we calculate actual average wage of regular citizens and do not include moscow in statistics the average wage would be even lower than in georgia, and i am sure of that because i myself did a lilttle research about it and i have many russian buds (all online, none of them know about me being a fag), majority of russians leave even poorer than georgians and in russia being a fag is illegal
4)
>you could literally WALK to Germany my nigga.
I can see that I am talking to an american who has 0 knowledge about geography, one way ticket from georgia to germany is like 300-500 usd on average, but that's just a ticket to fly one way, what about the cost of everything else?
5)
>you're worried about disappointing yours, who dont even know you?
only thing they don't know is that i have boner on guys, that's literally it
6)
>I bet if you were straight you'd have no problems with moving out.
u'd lose the bet
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>>43598868
So cut off your dick? Seriously, you want total control over your biology? Explain to me exactly how you aren't trans.
You cannot control what gets you hard and trying to will only make it worse and in fact risk complete insanity. Arousal is like 1% of sexuality. Are you schizo-ing out at the thought of your parents seeing you pop a stiffy at a marvel movie or something? Why does it matter if you get hard? (aside from your obvious self loathing)

I'd say a solid 70% of countries are shitholes. Georgia included. I want you to know that 400 a month is what middle class parents give their kids as an allowance here. I'm also amazed that you said someone PAYS for your tuition? Like it's not free? They make you pay for school? Is it at least a good school?

And yeah, the whole point with Russia is that there are resources and people to exploit. Georgia has neither. Shithole country, even the rich and corrupt are still poor and dumb.

Dude I'm amazing at geography. You could indeed walk to Germany. It'd take you about 20 days and you'd cross 4 or 5 countries. I could literally walk for 30 days in one direction and never see civilization, you have no idea how good you have it. your forests are super easy to forage and the countries you'd pass through are all left asf so you could just raid soup kitchens anyways. Plus have you ever heard of working? Sometimes when you go places, there are things you can do that will make you MORE money, which you can then exchange for goods and services. Even if this theoretical vacation ends up costing 1000, that's still 10-200x less than what I would pay for a SIMULATION of that same experience.

Yeah, and you said they'd disown you if they found out. Sounds like a pretty big deal that they don't know. And like you said, they'll find out eventually.

Nah cause if you were straight you wouldn't have any reason to fear abandonment. The standards would have been different from the start. They must already subconsciously know.
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>>43599203
they pay for campus not tuition, i study here for free but i don't live here for free, and it is one of the best unis in georgia if not the best.
anyway it took me to long to realise you are a ragebaiter and i shoudln't have wasted my time talking to you
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>>43598868
No, it's any place that IS DRIVING YOU TO SUICIDE, which is apparent to everyone here reading your posts as a bystander and trying to make you realise that.
It's not just 'feeling bad', your Stockholm syndrome is rotting your brain and driving you insane.

This is way worse than just 'feeling bad':
>I really hate being bi especially in a super religious and conservative country I live in.
>I basically have no friends anymore
>my familty will find out and if they will then they will fucking disown me
>I don't date anyone never did and probably will never do, and especially I won't date anyone in my country
>if at least one person over here would find out about it, it'll be over for me
>talking to people is like scary, it used to be boring and annoying but now it's scary
>I don't believe in love, I don't believe in dating, I don't believe me finding a date is possible and never did, people like me are destined to be alone
>fym im doomed, Im not planning on finding a girlfriend and most likely will never do so, I don't go out, in the university I always sit alone, do not interact with anyone, do not participate in group projects and trying my best to not get approached
>and you say go find friends who like you, in a country where like at least 80% of people will label me as traitor of the nation
>they will not yell at me they will turn their backs on me keep in mind they are all super conservative and religious, not american or western european conservative and religious, it's much more
>if another georgian decided to show that then he'd get beaten up
>ain't happening dude, my plan is to avoid every possible human being

Don't belittle it. Listen to yourself! You're being suffocated by social pressures of a horrible society that hates you for who you are for no good reason. And over time this metaphorical suffocation is as threatening to your life as literal suffocation.
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>>43599365, cont.

>i don't wanna risk doing anything about it, as it seems, doing absolutely nothing is safer
THIS is the problem.
Doing nothing is not safer, it's the most dangerous thing of all for you. It WILL kill you.
Trying to survive is hard. It can be REALLY hard. You realise that and therefore you subconsciously reject even trying. You tell yourself it's not actually that bad and life would be tolerable if only you were a retarded straight normie like you used to be before you started talking online to people from societies where they can be themselves without fear, which made the scales fall from your eyes and you saw the truth which you got terrified by. No it wouldn't, the truth would catch up to you sooner or later. As scary as it is, it is progress, you realised the problem, which means you can start to take steps to fight it - if only you stop trying to just blind yourself again instead.
To cope with the fact that the society you live in hates you, with the fear that your parents would hate you, you project the anger you should be feeling about this fucked up society, about your parents sadly being a part of it, on your sexuality, ON YOURSELF.
I pity you, I sympathise with you, it's really sad seeing someone in such a position and such a mental state. Therefore I sincerely wish you luck and hope you manage to reach a safer, happier place - literally AND metaphorically. But more than luck you need courage, you need to accept the truth, and you need to drop the retarded self-hating and self-defeating cuck mindset, realise that it is not who you really are that's wrong, but that it's the people who inexplicably and unreasonably hate you for it who are wrong. It will be incredibly difficult, especially emotionally, and it will take time. But it's the only way that doesn't end in oblivion. You might end up scarred, but at least you'll survive and hopefully you will eventually be happy and be yourself (you can't be no-one else, as hard as it is).
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maybe u should try taking dick a few times anon?
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>>43599303
Wasn't ragebait. Like the last guy said, some places are built to make you kill yourself. It's just so obvious that if you stay in your current predicament it's kind of the only option you're leaving yourself with.

I'm simply expressing my disbelief at the fact that you've kept this view on your future for assumedly longer than a day? Sorry if I offended you but you've gotta recognize how absurd you've been this entire conversation.

You're speaking as a victim of oppression, having your true voice silenced, and you use your opportunity to reach out to say "guys I love Georgia, it's so cool that they won't let me have rights, I wish I wasn't gay, Georgia would be so cool if I was straight guys, how can I be straight?"

It's infuriating, I feel like I'm explaining to a nazi why his own policies are causing him issues, and his brain is fucking melting from all the double standards. You're gay. And you hate yourself for being gay. Because your parents hate gays. Because their parents hate gays.

The only reason you care is bc you are NOT sucking dick right now. If you were gay you'd be happy and fulfilled, but you're an incel so, sexually, you're lost. Empty holes are meant to be filled.
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>>43599410
I know it's part actual advice, part ragebait, but as someone on the receiving end of a relationship-not-relationship with a closeted guy with unresolved issues not even close to being as immense as the ones presented here, I just have to say no, the change in mindset (and often, like here, personal circumstances) that purges the internalised retardation has to come first, otherwise it will just end up with another mental breakdown in which the partner will likely also catch some collateral damage (though some can handle it).



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