ive been looking for into the possibility of biokinesis. here are some studies that initially motivated me:https://doi.org/10.1080/00224497409550865https://doi.org/10.1080/00029157.1977.10403875ive now also written a small compilation of some of the ideas i have assembled thus far. i need to stop writing stuff and put more things into practice, but i might as well drop thishttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/how2.html
>>43608962like, massage therapy?
>>43609045idk if that works. the method used in these studies is hypnosis where the participant mainly recreates the feeling of the breast growing in puberty
also btw i wrote other things you could check out. here is a list in order of more beginner material:>https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/lithp.html>https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/32fd.html>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e7oYlrg1ne_eBME3fYbi-SfvFRqq_pZp/viewanyways im going to meditate ..
>>43608962On the topic of of supernatural transition, has anyone tried having a out-of-body-experience with someone transitioning the opposite way and then going into each other's bodies?
>>43608962>>43611234oh waow hello hidwehposterhavent seen u since i left that server, hope ur doing alright
>>43611760hihi im doing good thx. ive been getting a bit more into buddhist stuff lately and trying to internally discover ways to keep my body well-regulated and mind level-headed. hows it going for you?>>43611686ive honestly never heard of people possessing other bodies through astral projection. ive only really heard of astral shapeshifting and stuff which is not really the same thing at all. do you know how to astral project yourself?
>>43611938I've never done astral projection myself, though I'm aware that the GATEWAY tapes are one method to accomplish it. I can strangle myself for 6 minutes without fainting, though, which should be strictly impossible to even survive nonetheless stay conscious through.
>>43611938last night i tried to get drunk so i could work up the nerve to hang myself but i got too wasted and just passed out on the floor with a rope in my hands instead so it could be worse.that's cool, i think there is some valuable stuff in both buddhism and taoism. i could probably stand do some more reflecting and spending time outdoors. i might do that tonight. it's warm out, i'll probably go meditate by the lake.
>>43608962how do you track progress when working with abstract systems? also, why not invest the energy into material efforts? for example, breast growth using suction, herbal supplements.
>>43612024i see.. i recommend checking out robert bruce's astral dynamics if you are ever interested in that>I can strangle myself for 6 minutes without faintingwth how ..>>43613093glgl, that's better than trying to rope i think .. i just passed out while doing some stuff lol>>43613305>track progress when working with abstract systems?wdym? i try and feel the way the energy responds to different situations, and i also work with different studies and anecdotes ive found on the results on different forms of meditation and other practices. ultimately, the best way to test is to put in the actual effort, though of course the feedback is going to be naturally rather slowalso i dont propose biokinesis as a replacement for other methods! also biokinesis for breast growth might not be as interesting as we have prog and other hormones for that as well as supplements n stuff like you've mentioned. however, i dont think there have really been other methods developed for other morphological changes. surgery has made progress in changing some aspects of the shape of the skeleton, but there are still various bodily proportions that modern medicine is still barely capable of affecting in any way..
>>43616604>wth how ..I honestly don't know. I can only really think of two rational explanations for this. When someone is strangled while their carotid arteries are closed off their lesser-known vertebral arteries stay intact, otherwise they would have broken their neck. Rationally speaking, either my blood or my brain's use of it is far more efficient than normal making the meager blood flow from my vertebral arteries sufficient to keep me not only alive but conscious, or my vertebral arteries are abnormally wide enough for that to happen. I don't know enough about anatomy and physiology to say if either hypothesis is actually physically/chemically possible. Less rationally, I think I've become some kind of non-human being or I'm being kept alive by my god. I don't think any of these hypotheses are necessarily mutually exclusive.Something that should be noted is that when I'm being strangled I can feel lightheadedness, I hear tinnitus, I feel strange pressure in my face; I know I'm actually being strangled blood vessel style and that I'm not just pulling with a featherweight touch. It's just that I never faint from this and can stay like this for at least 6 minutes. My true limit is unknown. I'm very grateful to meet someone who actually understands my ability. I've tried discussing this a few times online and have been met with skeptic idiocy: Theoretically it's possible you aren't pulling tight enough so that must be the case; you're breathing you aren't actually in a blood choke; you're just crazy; etc.
>>43608962Summarize this into a few sentences. What benefits can it give?
Having read through the post. I think you make a lot of loose connections and drop some interesting references that overall try harder to make an aesthetic statement than develop a practice. With the understanding this is a draft, I feel like a background of chaos magick and its fundamental assumptions (gnosis, the shape of the mind, light bodies, energetics) is necessary to this practice that doesn't really work out if one desires to examine or question those assumptions.The articles you cite aren't really tied into the meditation practice well and in this particular instance, as someone with familiarity of daoist internal alchemy, you should be more conscientious of it. There is an essay on Secret of the Golden Flower you should read: https://qigonginstitute.org/docs/SecretGFCommentary.pdfBecause it goes over the history of inner alchemy in a way that I found challenges the typical assumptions made in a very satisfying answer. Basically, the premise that meditation and hypnosis share some underlying state is erroneous because hypnosis puts you in a lower form of consciousness while meditation puts you in a higher one.I would go on to say something from my own experience and observations, which is that there are ways of achieving breast growth through deliberate supplementation, and that hypnosis can be very helpful to making habits, I see no reason not to conclude it is the habits themselves that cause breast growth. In general I've become kind of tired of the monistic woo that obscures mundane steps between seemingly magical causes and effect sequences, not least because it undermines the scientific usefulness of the practice in question.>>43609045The natural breast growth subreddit has a guide to massage that ostensibly enhances breast growth. https://www.reddit.com/r/nbe/comments/13l8hxm/techniques_specifically_for_breast_pumps_vacuum
>>43617337>chaos magickchaos magick belongs largely within the orientation of mastery rather than relationality. no, it is not simply an aesthetic difference. it shapes what things the practitioner ends up looking for. when magic is just about the mastery of the world, there is much less reason to get an intimate sensation for the forces, energies, and formative tendencies within the object of manipulation. this often leads to a largely blind approach, where the only variables worth considering are subjective and largely to do with states of consciousness. most chaos magick practice is belief + intent + gnosis, and these are the the main things the practitioner looks for. ultimately, the chaos magician, despite their pretences, does have an underlying constraint on the paradigms which they are willing to entertainmy own approach meanwhile makes ontological and biological assumptions. i had to largely restrain myself from going too much into the details, because as i write about such things the text becomes increasingly abstract and difficult to nail down the basic points. for one, i subscribe to heidegger's understanding of truth as aletheia or unveiling. this is different from the chaos magician's pragmatism, as i generally believe that any particular perspective reveals a positive aspect of the general structure of Being itself. your particular perspective reveals particular aspects, providing an "interface" to those aspects. ritual to me then is about guiding ones consciousness to the salient aspects of reality and forming a positive link with these elements. this is different from chaos magick, as it means that i do care about actual mechanisms and the way things are in themselves. furthermore, i do not only care about having the right state of consciousness, it is equally if not more important to have the right interface..
Is the girl you draw a jiangshi btw nona
>>43617770on the more biological side of things, i believe the cells of the body are constantly in tune with a morphogenetic field that determines how they organize. this is informed largely by philosophical reflections and michael levin's research into morphogenesis:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POCj_7_Ntcbased upon the recognition of such a field, and the continuity between the processes of morphogenesis and the functionings of the brain, the possibility of modifying these fields with the mind alone becomes much more plausible>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bPH2DsqgQ0here are some technical descriptions of some of my background in this regard:>https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/phil/redocean.pdf>https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/phil/philref.html>the premise that meditation and hypnosis share some underlying state is erroneous because hypnosis puts you in a lower form of consciousness while meditation puts you in a higher onei do not make the claim that they share some underlying state and i make sure to distinguish the effects of different forms of meditation. notice how in my introduction to the meditation section, i do not even bother to mention the cultivation of other forms of consciousness. what i mainly highlight instead is how such and such forms of meditation bring out and involve the modification of such and such physiological or energetic variables. on the hypnosis side of things, what i personally get out of it is the tactile imagery within the instructions, which motivates the general development of interoception. to be honest i am not really sure whether or higher jhanic states or hypnosis are better for magic. academic research has mainly only focused on hypnotic states with respect to biokinesis and psi abillity in general, and why hypnosis is conducive to any of this remains a bit of a mystery
>>43617824if we go with hegel or schopenhauer on this, it is to do with the boundaries of the ego dissolving back into the world soul. if this is the case, dissolution is the most important aspect of the state. at the same time, thinking more along the thought of william l. hamilton, the heightening of perceptual thresholds from insight meditation (as well as general increase of cortical arousal i believe) unveils aspects of the mind's processing that are usually unconscious. hence, higher jhanas may be doors to finding more useful interfaces for biokinesis, and a hypnotic state would indeed by an overall impediment. still, there seems to be positive relationship between hypnotizability and interoceptive sensitivity (but not accuracy), so that might itself be something to look out for as well. maybe the ideal state of consciousness would combine variables that are highlighted in different forms of meditation, rather than going for one already established approachi will still check out your article though nona. also, i have of course looked into internal alchemy which is why is why i have made references to some concepts in it, but i am not sure if the field as a whole is conducive to my goal, i.e. biokinesis. as you can see there is a very particular thread of logic which guides the things i expound.>In general I've become kind of tired of the monistic woo that obscures mundane steps between seemingly magical causes and effect sequencesthat is one of the reasons why i generally do not touch the chaos magick paradigm. it does not grasp the constraints it places on the possibilities for "magic". if you ask the average chaos magician, they would say that biokinesis is not possible, or try to explain it by some external mechanistic account. i am interested in the virtues that are already immanent to the body, and if these have not yet been worked with while being possible to work with, it highlights the limitation of the "mastery" orientation
you fembrained retards
>>43616873U have to feel the body. feel the Body's energies become nice and intimate with it and conjure up the right bodily sensations. also Meditate. now worship hidweh and come up with rituals we need more cult members i mean biokinesis researchers but also cult members>What benefits can it give?i honestly cant give any promises.. i need to try this stuff myself for at least like a year. i write in order to attract people that are creative, curious, high initiative, unhinged, etc so its more than just me working on this stuff.. i dont really wanna be the cult leader, but if i end up figuring out everything myself would i even have a choice in the matter? how sad and lonely that would be.. come on, who else wants to take and irrational speculative risk with me? speaking of..>>43617337if you still think chaos magick or internal alchemy have perspectives that you feel are important or helpful to bring out i encourage you to contribute and stuff!>>43617777nuhttps://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/silly/wthwho.html
>>43608962isnt there a limited extent to which biokenis can actually take place tho, like for example increasing ur internal bdoy temp? i dont think you can do crazy stuff just through willpower imo
>>43621073ya i suggest something like tummo in what i wrote as part of the practice. really interesting stuff ..
