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browsing the /r/LillyTino subreddit and unfortunately, she mogs me.

oh it's another
>why do [thing that's not real]
thread

>>43609786
Rip

>>43609786
why the fuck is there an r/LilyTino subreddit? what could they possibly be posting on there

>>43609825
who did that

>>43609825
>[thing that's not real]

>>43609866
do you have any evidence for the claim that homophobia is correlated with pro-trans sentiment
like if you're right we ought to see support for gay marriage be anticorrelated with support for adolescent transition. would you like to bet on whether that's what we see, if we try to look at that?

>>43609866
do you know anyone like this

>>43609825
>describes literally the exact opposite of what actually happens

>>43609930
>yes, I know tons of homophobic people and strangely have had multiple distant family members and like kids of family friends troon out
so you talked to their parents and they forced it on them? or are you speculating

>>43609887
The point is that transgenderism is rooted in heterosexism

>>43609930
>look at how trannies react to "chasers" who want overtly gay sex
it's homophobic to not want to have sex with gay men?

>>43610017
it's not going out of your way if they come to you silly

>>43609930
since you changed the subject and refused to answer the question, i expect you already know what we would find if we checked that. you didn't even bother arguing that marriage is an assimilationist compromise and some other measure would be better, so presumably you are also capable of correctly predicting how those other measurements would come out. you know very well that the simple prediction, that homophobia and transphobia are tightly correlated, is correct.
you are opposed to transition because you are mad that people are taking an action that makes them less attractive to you personally, because you believe that amab teenagers exist for your sexual gratification.

>>43609930
I also noticed that agps are uniquely sexist and homophobic. They literally believe your sex is dependent on gender expression. Which reaffirms sexist gender stereotypes.

>>43609749
convinced that dude is a spook

>>43610064
agps aren't real

>>43610082
I actually like him

>>43610152
no

>>43609749
Hsts:
>I want access to hormones and surgery so that I can make my life better.

Agp
>YOUR KIDS ARE TRANS BECAUSE FAGGOTS ARE A CURSE! I'M AM ATHEIST WICCAN WHO WORSHIPS THE DEVINE LESBIAN GOD OF PORN FERTILITY BUT I AGREE WITH SODOM AND GOMORRAH! TRANS YOUR KIDS NOW!

>>43609866
where the fuck are these youth gender clinics you glowies keep talking about and how do i get signed up for one

>>43610183
that's not real though

>>43609749
you know why

>>43610251
you're a bit nutty :/

magical thinking thread

>>43610295
schizophrenia

>>43610295
the only people trying to stop people being gay are loonie right wingers with conversion therapy, half or more of all troons end up being some kind of queer anyway

>>43610228
I remember when posters on this board used to brag about giving estrogen to children. You can look in the archives and there's dozens of threads where they would come here and pretend to be a good samaritan for talking children into taking estrogen. This board is filled with some of the most disgusting vermin creatures.

>>43610349
what trans person wants all gay people to transition

>>43610349
youre making up a person to be mad at

>>43610368
i gave a minor hrt and he's still on it

>>43610390
How old is he now?

>>43610386
who is that

>>43610408
he's 23

>>43610349
trannies on average are way off to the left
>gayness is genetic
no evidence of that, and nobody wants to transition all gay men anyway, plus trans people do have kids
>trannies belive [sic] you can go from gay man to straight woman
well you basically can but that's not conversion therapy
>most want to be tradwives and think flamer fags are icky
wrong

>>43610368
show us the evidence

>>43610430
How old was he when you gave him testosterone?

>>43610431
No you're late to the party! Someone here has already admitted to giving children hormones.

>>43610064
The trans women I know, as a group, are dramatically more gender nonconforming than the cis women I know. I know numerous trans women who, once they've transitioned and are at a place they're comfortable at, dress much more androgynously or even masc leaning. Not in a boymoding way either, they're very confident and out.
It's almost like this idea that trans women are just changing their clothes and mix up being female and femininity is a complete fucking lie, and that the underlying mental state that makes being transition is about being the wrong sex, not about the trappings of gender stereotypes or any of that bullshit.

>>43610440
17

>>43610439
so this 4chan troll is representative of all trans people and enough to base a world view off of?

>>43610464
I don't think I would want to help someone potentially ruin their health. You know what the rate of detransition is for ftm, it's incredibly high, and I don't think I would want to be the person to ruin someone's life if they realize down the road that being trans was a passing phase in their life and not who they really are.

>>43610455
wow a post on 4chan I believe it

>>43610460
>wikipedia link that shows no evidence for it
why do you think I would want to "cure" homosexuality
this is a really odd conspiracy theory, I'd much rather be a gay man than a trans woman

>>43610460
I trooned out so I could be gayer tho

>>43610460
nice ideology dipshit did epstein pick it out for you?

>>43610506
i get it. i wouldn't want to give a dyspraxic retard a driver's license, but he seemed competent enough.

if there was a conspiracy to turn all the gay people trans it isn't working because it's making far more straight people gay than gay people straight

>>43610514
I talked to people from here in discord who told me they groomed minors online and got them on hrt. One very well known tripfag gave me the rundown of how he looks for these minors on twitter and even started posting their pics in voice chat. This person has been on this board for over a decade.

>>43610567
You don't get it and you're a creep.

>>43610579
I don't believe you, obviously

>>43610586
i was 16 btw

>>43610599
you're insane it's infinitely harder to be a tranny than a gay man I wish I was a gay man and not a tranny
it is so much fucking harder and people fucking hate you and I'm terrified every moment I'm ouside

>>43610623
gincel is schizophrenic

>>43610640
hope they get better

>>43610685
me too

>>43610521
nta but based.
t. estrogenized bottomfag

>>43610696
>"You mean I get to look more feminine AND I get better access to dick? Sign me up!"

>>43610732
Kinda. I don't think I got better access to dick. Besides I fell in love for real with my bf soon after (already 5yrs together, wow, time flies). But it feels way better and I like how I look now way better (lowkey agp ig but who cares).
This summer Imma try to make my bf pass as a straggot. Even if it doesn't work, it will be fun lol.

>>43610852
I basically haven't had any dick either but it also killed a lot of my cocklust. Like my oral fixation went away and that's kinda sad.

>>43610852
liking how you look isn't agp that's just a normal thing that normal people do

>>43610579
saint

>>43610579
Is this groomed (actual) or groomed (ordered hormones for someone who was already looking for them)?

>>43609749
A number of lesbians I've spoken to, including myself, felt like men at one point in time. All of us had a strict cishet patriarchal upbringing. It's easier to see yourself as the opposite sex when being a homo isn't an option. But if you're not trutrans, you eventually come to terms with just being gay, hopefully without having medically transitioned. (This is what happened to Maia Poet, but instead of recognizing the problem, she chose to shill for detrans and Israel.) It does sting when trans people seem physically unable to comprehend a masculine woman or a feminine man. But they're not the ones who fucked me over for Jeebus.

>>43610017
what do you think chaser means dipshit

>>43610936
>It does sting when trans people seem physically unable to comprehend a masculine woman or a feminine man.
when does this ever happen, 99% of trannies are this

>>43610873
>either
Oh but I did. Technically speaking I got more dick. One before 'trooning' and two after (a fwb and now my bf).
>killed a lot of my cocklust
oh, that's bad actually.
>my oral fixation went away
Had this briefly happen to me about a year in. My boyfriend was 60% of the fix. 40% was porn and toys.
With the risk of sounding like i hornypost, boyremoval works.
>>43610875
I know. I was trying some self-deprecating humour but I am also a tad bit serious. I like how I look specifically because I look way more feminine and can be confused for a woman.
I'm not bothered by the 'agp'/'hsts' pseudo controversy. Idgaf what i am (or if i even fit on that scale).

>>43611014
multiple trans friends are convinced that I'm a repping nb or ftm because i exclusively wear men's clothes and haircuts.
they're not the source of the problem but it is annoying.

>>43611070
kill them

>>43611090
lol. They mean well, it's just misguided. The two I'm closest to have since apologized.

>>43611107
nta but that's wrong by any standard, chasers lie about thinking trans women are women, or genuinely do think trans women are women but fetishise and objectify and stereotype trans women, so it doesn't work to say that chasers simply want to sleep with trans women while refusing to accept that they are women, because they don't do that

>>43610439
how on god's green earth does one ffs herself

>>43610458
Yeah. I used to think that trans women were promoting gender conformity,
but it's more like y'all have to perform gender in order to not get assaulted

>>43611185
it is literally impossible because the flesh that is usually over your forehead will be over your eyes during frontoplasty

>>43611066
My bf hasn't boy removed me yet because when I went to visit him last my libido was nonexistent.

>>43611256
>if you don't look like a woman, how can someone think you are a woman?
>either you look like a woman, or you don't...
did you mean to reply to my post or was it an accident because this is a complete non sequitur

>>43611256
awesome. hopefully she didn't die of gangrene.

>>43611299
do you know what lying is

>>43611228
i guess you do it by feel then

>>43611299
>evil
didn't say that
>they lie about thinking trans women are women
some do, not all of them, reread my post
>these trans women somehow look like women
some do, not all of them
>chasers don't really see them as that
some do, not all of them
>which makes no sense
what doesn't make sense?
>either the trans women chasers interact with look like women, or they don't
some do, not all of them

>>43611330
oh ok. thanks for the information.

>>43611346
people are way more horrible though

>>43611346
you can alter sex traits, people do it, and those people are hugely discriminated against

>>43611445
where does this change the discrimination part

>>43611445
>your bone structure displays to matter
If transition at a very young age before puberty, your bone structure ends up matching that of a cis woman because the growth plates have not closed. Trans women who transition after growth plates have closed will have a male skeleton.

>>43611445
yeah you can

>>43611261
>when I went to visit him last my libido was nonexistent
what do you think "removal" stands for? :3
but no, seriously, I found (and continue to find) it pretty hot when he "forces" himself on me. Scare quotes because ofc it's all consensual. He can do whatever he wants whenever he wants to me sexually if we did it before.
I wish I had the balls to get the snip so he has more options lol.

>>43611525
where do you live? is it more accepted where you live?

>>43611525
don't pretend we're talking about iran here we're all speaking english

>>43611574
this doesnt make any sense and you're pretending discrimination doesn't exist

>>43611547
My bf wouldn't really do anything like that and also I'm a big wimp tbhon.

>>43611574
wrong

>>43611525
it's about 40 that allow gay marriage, it's still much easier to be gay even in places where there's no gay marriage than it is to be trans

>>43611625
who are these people? what are you basing discrimination rates off of?

>>43611574
most gay people do not marry women lol
and stick to talking about america and europe we know you're not talking about zambia when you post lily tino images

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if you want to know a worse tranny than Lily Tino, look no further than Elphaba Oriona Doherty (birth name: Orion Doherty)

>>43611648
look it up

>>43611625
which people? people have only ever wanted me to not transition and just be gay
I only hear people say "why can't you just be gay"

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>>43611666
self-reply but Elphaba has cavities in their teeth so they do not brush their teeth properly.

>>43611678
femine guys cant like women?

>>43611678
what fem straight guys? who are you talking about? I'm sure there are fem straight guys that exist, what's your point, do you think they are all gay? can no straight man be fem?

>>43611720
>no, those are closeted gay men
aren't you enforcing gender roles right now? if you're feminine, you have to like men?

>>43611720
how do you know that about them? they all seemed ok with gay people, they just hated trans people, most of them were terfs like you
you're assuming things about my sexuality too

why would these people that wanted my to transition encourage me to not? weird master plan

>>43611740
>if we forced all trannies to stop taking hrt and come out as gay, homophobia would go down by 50%
but if we'd shoot you in the head, transphobia would go down by 100%
just saying

>>43609825
fag mad his supply of barely legal twinks is "lowering"

>>43611740
there would be less gay people if you forced all trans people to be cis
also no not all fem straight men are secretly gay, you're really weird and pushing sexist homophobic stereotypes

>>43611740
can't you say the same about how transphobia would go down if we just forced all gays to transition? why do you get to decide which is worse? also, what if they're not gay and just feminine? why are you forcing men to have sex with other men? are you trying to destroy the west?

>>43611666
mogs

>>43610368
woaw
youngshittery will increase until morale improves

>>43611720
Be honest you only envision all feminine men as gay because you want to fuck them
Same with trannies, you just hate them for stealing your twinks

>>43611785
so it's gay people that are making gay people transition... got it...

Why are faggots so obsessed with sexual behavior and function of children?
Why are most historical faggot relationships pedophilic in nature?
Why are HSTS (notably sexually exploited in their teens, transitioning to become a sex toy with zero agency) celebrated by the faggot community while AGP (capable of self agency, transitions for themselves) demonized?

>>43609866
No, that just isnt a thing. Homophobic parents would get conversion therapy instead of trooning out their child

>>43611810
how about you don't force people to do anything

>>43611829
they're not
you're conflating pederasty and being gay
blanchardism is a joke

>>43611070
I think its not the clothing, it's the overtly woke (copey even) way you speak buddy

>>43611842
do you think everyone is gay

>>43609836
Jazz Jennings' parents when he liked playing with dolls and playing dress up with princess clothes as a toddler

>>43611842
well I'm a tranny and I'm not homophobic I think you're just insane and making up insane misogynistic homophobic transphobic sexist shit while pretending to be a hero

>>43611848
why are most homosexual historical relationships pederasty? Even in the 18th/19th century era most faggot relationships were teen/1-2 years out of teens x random old rich pedophile

>>43611853
that's not what jennings thinks or what there's evidence for
it did happen to david reimer, and it didn't take

>>43611873
why would they be like that if you need to be straight to reproduce? meaning that if all of your ancestors weren't straight you wouldn't exist.

>>43611853
yea this did not actually happen
they took her after she tried to castrate herself with scissors

>>43611882
why are pederastic historical relationships pederasty? by definition
you can also find examples of adult men in relationships

>>43611873
idiot

>>43611842
Sure, many men would like to be more feminine that they are, but that doesn't mean they're into other men

>>43611898
>>43611912
Jazz literally wrote a kid's book about being a trans kid and one of the reasons listed for "knowing she was a girl" was liking dolls and dresses

>>43611898
reimer got reassigned after a botched circumcision though.
This didn't happen, ever. Genuinely. Even these weird wokie "gender neutral parenting" people took their kids to doctors only if the kids expressed the need/distress needed for a gd diagnosis. This is a full on fabrication made up by retards extrapolating on (vastly fake) ""experiences"" of detrans grifters (aka stories that fail to hold up once you check the basic information on the individuals involved

>>43611958
evidence needed

>>43611967
100% agree, the only example is reimer and it didn't work on him, he could not be brainwashed into it

>>43611958
>one of the
What was the rest?
Also in her time (the 2010s/2000s) you could've gotten kicked off the treatment lists for being vaguely gnc (GIDS being the leading example, although it happened in America as well) so I 100% understand that, way to cover yourself from gay pedophile """sexologists""" hyperanalizing every part of your history and crying about it

>>43611939
why would most people not desire sex with the opposite sex? in order for our species to be around today there must be a biological incentive to reproduce

>>43611842
this is gincel lol nigga kys

>>43611995
>>43612015
You can find the damn book for free online
https://www.scribd.com/document/540076966/I-Am-Jazz-1

>>43612047
find the bit where she says if you like dolls you're a girl

>>43612077
I misremembered mentioning dolls, but she mentions the color pink, dresses, princesses, makeup, dancing, etc. as reasons she's a girl. But you're going to be a disingenuous faggot and cling on to the doll part when everything else is also stereotypical girl shit?

>>43612105
show the evidence stop interpreting it

>>43612172
It's a picture book with like 10 pages

>>43612181
ok so screenshot a page

>>43612194
Why would I screenshot anything when the pictures are perfectly visible on the site?

phobes have zero idea how to present an argument
>do my work to verify my side
no

>>43612210
because I'm not going to do any work to help you support your side of the argument, that's your job

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>>43612225
Happy now?

>>43612181
>picture book
so a kids book. Obviously you're not going to write about dicks and castration in a kids book, maybe its not obvious to a faggot sadly

>>43612302
where does it say liking girl things makes you a girl there?
all we can gleam from this is that she was unperturbed by enjoying things she was told is "girl stuff"

>>43612302
nigger thats a kids book. Congratulations.
>as a reason for why shes trans
I'd say its more as "hey we're just like you" in context of other pages

gincel furiously combing the children's book for where it says the thing it doesn't say

guess they didn't find it

>>43609749
I honestly hope something really bad happens to this person irl

>>43609749
It upsets British "people"