I really feel like I've tried anything possible to find a way to style my hair, and nothing worked even in the slightest. I've tried using nothing except shampoo. Very frizzy and dry results obv.I've tried a minimal haircare routine, just shampoo, conditioner and hair oil. Frizzy.I've tried using the curly girl method. Frizzy.I've tried a more elaborate haircare routine. Shampoo, hair mask, conditioner, serum, leave-in, oil, heat protection and a styling cream. Just as frizzy.I've tried air-drying it. Frizzy. Using a blow-dryer. Frizzy. Using a diffuser. Still frizzyI've also tried going to a hair salon and asking as many questions as I could about how to get rid of the frizz. Got told my hair is healthy, and that I'm either stuck with the frizz, or doing something severely wrong. None of the suggestions helped. I feel cursed. Anybody else stuck with disgusting permanently frizzy straw hair?
it sounds like you're letting your hair dry too much before styling it. it has to be soaking wet when you do your curly hair routine whatever that is. otherwise the hair doesn't define into curls
>>43616825>frizzy hairare you black and or brown? in which case stop listening to these white hoes, since AGPs are almost always white and dont know shit about frizzy hair or haircare in general. watch cis black or brown hair and makeup care youtubers instead. Also stop hating your own race you chud.
Blow drying it always works for me but I’m too lazy to do that every time I shower so I just let it be frizzy My boyfriend thinks frizzy hair looks cute like I just got fucked
>>43616871It could be. I usually squeeze out any remaining water with my hands and then pat my hair down with a towel. My hair is still wet then, but not really soaking wet. I'll try to style it while soaking wet next time>>43617020I'm white...
>>43616825Did you acually get a haircutI had really dry frizzy ends, straight out of shower.When i went to hairdresser after like 4 years she told me that there is nothing you can do about the ends but to cut them off periodically.>>43616871
>>43617075I have. I'm trying to get a haircut at least every three months, and I've gotten one just last week. It changed nothing unfortunately. My hair is still just as frizzy
>>43617052Blow-drying just gives me a ton of volume, but it arguably makes my frizz even worse. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong
>>43616825Have you tried to use a hair straightener?
>>43617055how in the fuck are you white and have frizzy hair? are u a jew or biracial or something?
>>43616825I used to have similar problems until I started using a fuck ton of hair spray and wear a bonnet every single day t. curly hair tranny
>>43616825cut some of it off if its damaged. theres nothing that can fix already damaged hair
>>43617440Nope. I apparently just have horrible hair, or I'm too retarded to take care of it
>>43617478I've tried using hairspray, but it just made my hair feel extremely dry and coarse. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong
>>43617517I've cut off like 10 cm of it last week, and it didn't change a thing. At this I can only try shaving it all of and then hope for the best
Try a curly hair routine with mousse for curly hair
>>43617566Even super healthy hair can wind up fucked based on stupid shit, just the difference between a warm humid day and a mild dry interior can entirely fuck my hair. Is your hair wavy or curled? Tight, circular coils that 'fro up, or smooth and ovoid waves?Do you brush the hell out of it?how long is the longest routine you've tried? If you've acted on damage, cutting it back, and then stuck with a routine for months afterward there should be some situations like after the right shower, or in the morning after the bonnet comes off, where your hair seemed fine and then magically fucked itself right after leaving. Are you brushing the hell out of your hair? using a fine comb?
>>43617586>Is your hair wavy or curled?It has the potential to be very wavy>Tight, circular coils that 'fro up, or smooth and ovoid waves? Ovoid waves>Do you brush the hell out of it? I've tried it all. Tried not brushing it at all, except when rinsing the conditioner out of my hair, tried brushing it with a wave brush only, and I've tried brushing it with a regular brush. The texture of the waves was different, but still always just as frizzy>how long is the longest routine you've tried?Pre-shampoo, shampoo, hair mask, conditioner, hair serum, leave-in conditioner, heat protection, styling mousse for curls and waves, hair oil, and then blow-drying it>there should be some situations like after the right shower, or in the morning after the bonnet comes off, where your hair seemed fine and then magically fucked itself right after leavingNope. It looks like shit immediately after drying it, and it stays that way. The only days where it ever looked even slightly fine was like two days after washing and styling it>Are you brushing the hell out of your hair? using a fine comb?I don't
>>43617576I will. I don't really have any other choice but to keep trying
>>43617632>>how longI meant, how many months did you stick with whichever routine? Like, right after visit to salon you went home and use ____ and for how longstuff can take years to changeeither way tho, if you've never found any way to dry your hair without a bunch of frizz it might be beyond me. Your hair might actually just be like that. If it's fixable it might need as much as a cut all the way back to your ears and a big change in diet/routine, or maybe there's just one fancy indie sellers magic goop that turns your hair perfect. there might be answers paywalled behind some specialist but i couldn't say where to start if there's NEVER a moment of decent hair.
>>43617573how long is your hair? i also had the same issue. i had really long hair and cut it to shoulder length then started caring for my hair so it wont end up as damaged once it grows and it fixed it. although i don't have curly hair, just wavy
>>43617811>I meant, how many months did you stick with whichever routine?Oh, sorry, I'm just plain dumb.The longest routine was probably 1+ years long. That one was just shampoo, conditioner, styling gel and hair oil>Your hair might actually just be like that.At this point I think it may be, which is extremely demoralizing. I can't even go out without wearing a cap or something to cover it
>>43617838>how long is your hair?Currently it's around chin length. Also, I have wavy hair too
Left is my hair three days after the last time I styled it, and right is my hair immediately after washing, styling and blow-drying it.I must be retarded atp
>>43616825Have you tried ironing it with hair straightener? That's the only thing that helps me to make my hair not frizzy.
>>43617576not op but i started using mousse recently and my hair turned out really great, i dont use it daily tho. i have a curly hair friend who wears silk bonnets to bed every night so maybe that could help too.
>>43616825>obviously agp girl desperate to suppress her agp frizzjust own itwhy try to hide who you really are?
very basic question unrelated to frizz but: does blow drying actually damage your hair? i got told that when i was young but i think its bullshit
>>43618134i have the exact same hair down to the colour what the hellno clue what there is to be done nona lmk the cure when you find it
>>43618164yeah it feels counter intuitive but this works for me too
Have you ever tried a decalcifant serum? It strips all the junk out of your hair. Sometimes it can be hard water in your area causing the issue. They can be expensive but it's worth it.
>>43617311>>43618164I haven't cause I don't even own one (yet). I have an extremely male face, so I really doubt straight hair will look good on me
>>43618164samehairnona i had it straightened one time and that was the moidiest ive looked in my life wouldnt suggest it
>>43616825I have INSANE frizzy and curls naturally that made life a nightmare. What worked for me was never washing my hair with any product. Just water. Full blow out your hair and then once dry section it and use a straightening brush (I use a GHD glide). Then add a tiny bit of Olaplex once its dry for shine and flyaways.I think Ive washed my hair with shampoo/conditioner maybe 3 times in the last 5 years. Always goes frizzy dry and shit. If I get dirty hair I only use CLARIFYING conditioner conditioner.Alternatively try getting keratin hair straightening done. Youre hair will be straight af for the first 3 months and then be kinda wavey for another 6 months. No frizz at all the whole time though. And you can wash your hair as much as you like. >picrel I hadnt washed my hair in over a year in this picture and my natural hair is 2c grade
>>43618201I actually haven't, but it's probably worth a try. Do you have any recommendations?
>>43618190>>43618230I'm really sorry you have to struggle with it too. This hair feels more like a curse tbf
>>43618188Only when the heat is highUse cold air and don't bring the dryer too close to the strands
>>43618243You have really beautiful hair.Unfortunately, I really doubt that not washing it with any water will help me, but I've never tried avoiding products for more than a week or two.Also, what kind of product is olaplex?
>>43618243If I wash my hair with water alone then it looks oily as fuckI take some frizz over that any day
>>43618422Thankyou!>I really doubt that not washing it with any water will help meLook up the Nopoo movement. There are tons of women doing it. Its not just something I made up lol. Moisture loss and cuticle dmg is the cause of frizz and a TON of shampoos/conditioners fuck with that stuff.>olaplex>Picrel Olaplex is a salon tier hair product brand but most people with frizz swear by Olaplex no6 which is a hair bond smother. Essentially it smooths down the cuticle plates along the outer layer of your hair. It results in more moisture retention within the hairs core and significantly smooths frizz.
>>43616825How's your diet?If you're doing a lot try and do the opposite and just minimal hair care, shower once a day (or every other day to shampoo and condition if your hair needs time to accrue natural oils. Argan oil when hair is still damp helps me with frizziness. Also put your hair in a bun after oiling and after it's completely dry. 6 hours in a bun and when you pull it out it'll have good curls if your hair is predisposed to that.It took me 10 years to figure out what worked. Make sure you're not breaking your hair in hair ties or else that will make it frizzy and can only be fixed by a trim to remove split ends. I highly advise learning to cut your own hair.
obviously without seeing your hair idk how frizzy it actually is but really just learning to accept my frizz and see it as beautiful not just on me but on all curly haired women has really been the only way to combat the obsession. its just how curly hair is not every single strand is gonna line up with the lock its supposed to be in
>>43618565It needs to be long enough to comfortably trim split ends yourself (you should grow it at least that long anyway)>>43618586Minor frizz is part of the charm I think, only when it gets out of hand is when problems begin
>>43618524>Look up the Nopoo movementI have tried Nopoo for a short while, but it only made my hair extremely coarse and dry at the beginning, before it became way too greasy that washing with only water didn't help. I really wish it worked, but I felt the need to switch back to using products. I still hope that trying it for a longer while may actually help, but I don't want my hair to look like asmongold's hair one week in>Olaplex no6Thanks a ton for the recommendation. I will look if I can find it in stores where I live, otherwise I'll order it online. I'm genuinely desperate to find at least something that can make my hair look appropriate enough to go out in public
>>43618565>How's your diet? Overall healthy and varied. I also move enough and am enough out in the sun. Nutrition and health shouldn't be the issue>If you're doing a lot try and do the opposite and just minimal hair careAs mentioned in >>43618760, I have triedit briefly in the past, but it didn't yield much. I will definitely try it out again in the near future if my current routine doesn't improve a thing (I don't think it will atp)>Also put your hair in a bun after oiling>Make sure you're not breaking your hair in hair tiesHow do I put my hair in a bun without using hair ties?
>>43618586I've posted my hair once itt: >>43618134>learning to accept my frizzI really want to do that, but there's a huge difference between somewhat frizzy yet still normal looking wavy hair, and my hair looking disheveled and unwashed no matter what I do. I literally look like William Dafoe with a bird's nest on his head (I don't deserve any other pronouns)
>>43616825shave your hair
How are my AGP waves doing?https://litter.catbox.moe/551lbwfl7un97wb7.jpg
>>43618305just use enough heat protector before ironing and don't use too high temperature (i use 180-200C).here are some tips:https://youtu.be/q_yQqyDvIy8
>>43618243how do you brush your hair? i have similar curls but its feels like i'm ripping my hair out if i brush without conditioner
>>43618787Use softer and less tight hair ties and don't rip your hair out of them when it gets tangled. I'm lazy AF and have deteriorated my haircuts by just ripping those tangles out like a barbarian
>>43616825this is my hair a couple of hours after it fully dried...
>>43619123Brughhhhhh you're working with gold, you might just wanna change up the layering on the back. The ringlet curls on the side are perfecttt
>>43619058Tangle teaser then a nylon brush
>>43619139I know, and unfortunately it only adds to my frustrations. This is what my hair looks like when still wet...
>>43616825just straighten it, every single cis woman who doesn't look like shit straightens their hair
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>>43619977this board is so fucking dumb it's unreal, even in your 0 IQ should-be-tortured for how fucking abysmally idiotic it is meme, the hon caricature still looks much better than if they had a frizz triangle insteadbut whatever, if you feel as if you're too hideous to look good even with perfectly styled hair as in your picture, then you might as well detrans and/or reroll, retard.
>>43619327this is how mine looks when wet too but mine dries really nicely thats weird. i dont even really brush it extensively i just blow dry on low/no heat
>>43619160Both wet, both dry, one wet one dry?
>>43620175It was just a joke...I'm trying my best to make the most of what I've got. It not being perfect does frustrate me, and I admit that it's a personal flaw, but this was just a way to vent my frustrations
>>43618134Heres what I do it's not perfect but could try it for at least 2 weeks. On your sweatiest day you wash; shampoo with real honey and a silicone (mine has dimethicone) on the ingredients list. Use the most hydrating conditioner you can find that you like and keep it in for as long as it says, but not super long I use the Aussie stuff with avocado. Then I use a leave in repair serum that also has honey just like one full pump. Put that in your hair after washing shampoo and cond out while hairs still wet. When you dry, use a 100% cotton shirt wrap it around your hair until it's not dripping wet but damp. You don't move the shirt at all, it just sits in your head and soaks up the water. Brush your hair, I brush up with my hair hanging down for volume. Based on your pic, you have similar to me where after a wash you strip out all the oils and it's frizzy as fuck. You need to do what you can to keep them there so after a wash honey absorbs moisture and puts it back in the hair faster. Even though these conditioners say they put it back, it never does for me. then let your hair dry my hair dries fairly faster like less than 30 minutes, so if your dries fast also sign of not holding onto moisture. Over the next few days DO NOT USE SHAMPOO. Instead just use water and do preening which is just running your nails on your scalp lightly to do some cleaning. Dry like above, put serum on or not your call. I do a wash, water, water, cowash (no shampoo just conditioner), water, water, repeat thing right now. My hair is doing better, not the best but better otherwise it's frizzy as fuck. I also use one of those plastic brushes with medium density bristles and then follow up with a wide toothed comb like very wide almost wig comb to get the hair to clump together more. Best of luck nona, hair is really difficult even hard water could fuck it up. My hair tends to look it's best after 2 days when it's got enough oils back. Also get a silk pillowcase.
>>43621095Thank you a ton for the very elaborate routine and explanation. I will seriously give it a try for at least a month, and I really hope it will yield some results. Any improvement is welcome after all.If I manage to remember, I'll probably make a thread reporting the results
Uhhhh is anybody here? What do i do...?
>>43622238What's your current routine?
>>43622254Shampoo and conditioner in the shower, put a microfiber towel on it until it's damp, than put leave in conditioner and mousse, then blow dry. The pics are taken now, i got out of shower like 8 hours ago.
Sorry to spam the pics. I'm not sure what angle best shows how horrible my hair is.
>>43622279How much do you brush your hair?What does your hair look like if you don't take care of it?
>>43622375Not much. I mostly just brush to detangle every once in a while.
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>>43622238Looks alright, it's within the norm I think>>43622279Damn how long is it?
>>43622674You don't think it's bad? Also idk how long it exactly is. Almost comes down to my asscrack.
>>43616825Find a hair dresser with an negative ionic dryer or straightener, if you’re in the US and willing to spend Ulta has a couple of options we (I work there) for ultra frizz control
>>43622715Could use some help here and there maybe but it's definitely not broken beyond help so don't listen to anyone saying you have to cut it
I fucking hate curly hair, it's a fucking curse. You wake up messy, you need to condition everyday, which means leaving your home with wet hair. The longer it gets, the tougher it gets when wet especially during winter. If your cotton shirt touches your hair, it's game over, enjoy your frizz. Your cut will always be inconsistent because fuck you. You are stuck with needing to shampoo every two days and anyone who says they're doing cowash bullshit and stuff is a larper. All the people you see on YouTube doing bullshit curlygirl routines are larpers who spend their day doing their hair. You like biking or motorbiking? Game over bitch, wearing an helmet will destroy your styling. Guess who will look like shit after sports or at the beach when getting in the water? And the funny part is that you get to pay MORE to look shitter because curly hair products are a scam meant to trap you forever.
>>43623043Your hair looks good tho
>>43623700I don't find it good and that's because I'm putting effort here. One droplet of rain and it's dead, one sweep of wind and it's gone. Change angle and it's ugly. I would trade for wavy hair without looking back.
>>43621530Forgot to mention don't brush dry but you probably already know that since you've tried other stuff. Good luck!
>>43617055>drying hair with a towelGIRL NOOOOthat's your problem!
>>43622769what the heck even is that
>>43624528I'm only dabbing it with a microfiber towel, not scrubbing it with a regular towel
>>43623043picrel is the longest I've gotten to with angle fraud to make it look good but I would really just look dog all days. Maybe with an actual haircut it would have worked. But everytime I try to grow again I just end up cutting down everything
