As a bi, if I want love my only option is a girl? Boys only want seccs and they do poppers and stuff which I don't like.I heard that some boys agree to date you, but you gotta give them sex in the first date, and if you stop giving them sex they dump you. Also more androphilic women than men in the world
>ask for sex advicehundreds of replies>ask for relationship advice*crickets*I hate gay culture so much bros
>>43617839No, but you have to look outside of apps like Grindr, which are cancer filled with horny gooners whose brains have been rotten by their sex obsession.Gay hobby groups are good for it in my experience, for stuff like board games, vidya, different sports, many others.It naturally filters out the caveman retards whose only interest is sex.However, you have to live in a place with such groups (big cities with universities are usually where they are), of course, which is not a given.
>>43617839Honestly I had this same connundrum, what worked for me was to transition so that I could better attract normal men who want long term relationships (I love chasers so much)
>>43618759Rare actual HSTS sighting on /tttt/
>>43618763Yet they call me agp anyway since I have a defence contractor job and curly hair
>>43618750I don't think those are a thing imc
>>43618852Yeah, as I said the downside is that it's very place-dependent, unfortunately. Sadly, where you live matters quite a lot for us fags. If it's quite a big city though, I'd still recommend looking at gay bars (and such - queer friendly music venues, cafes, whatever), especially the ones which seem more nerdy or 'alternative'. Not to chat random people up, but in my city these places usually have lots of posters advertising such groups and events. Or you ask at the bar and maybe they'll know. Sometimes it's hard to find out about them, they often don't advertise themselves a lot. Then again, in my city there's a lot of these groups in the first place, so there might just be none in yours, if it's dry then it's dry, but you won't know unless you look. Basically, you want to look for gay spaces where the expectation is making friends, not fucking.
>>43618941you make it sound way harder than just dating women...
>>43618771Ok you fucking deserve it then.
>>43618984Well, yeah, it is. Less of us than straggots and a lot of us are closeted due to the legacy of homophobia and often unfortunately still existing homophobia. But if you date women then you have to deal with women, so for me it's still a good trade-off.
>>43619005women aren't bad, they're just not assertive enough. I want people to care for me, and that means try to protect me too, and women won't do that (men don't either, they just want sex, but they do it in movies ig)
>>43619018It's 4chan so my post was not entirely serious ofcBut yeah, even if I'm maybe technically bi since I find some women hot, I find it way easier to connect with men, probably due to more similar upbringing, leading to more shared interests.My advice is don't look for partners with the intent to have someone to protect you, I strongly believe that the best relationships, regardless of gender, are equal and reciprocal (I guess some people are into power dynamics or something, so maybe that's just my personal preference).But if you insist, don't expect men to all be knights in shining armour (or for all of them to be sex obsessed gooners for that matter, after all, from your posts I assume you're a guy and you're not sex obsessed). Maybe find a tall assertive goth gf, don't complain if she comes packaged with borderline personality disorder tho, it seems to be as mandatory for goths as stompy boots.
>>43618771hey...
>>43618984I will date whoever will give me the best prostate massage ever
>>43617839why don't you find a nice Christian or Catholic gay guy? they generally in my experience lament about the same kinds of things and have usually already had lots of time thinking about sex and morality and how that interacts with life. here's a organization (https://reformationproject.org/) whose conference literally talks about how bad polyamory is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzDh4XfFVN4). i still don't know where to meet this rare type, especially ones who aren't overthinking bottoms like myself around my age and it would be nice to be with someone who shares my faith or values around relationships, but i think that this kind of man might be what your looking for.
>>43619101>I assume you're a guy and you're not sex obsessedyeah, but I'm not very male socialized though. I never had men around growing up and some guys told me I had to be careful of not walking alone at night because I looked kinda fem and I could get assaulted, so I kinda became weary of men
>>43619132are you really suggesting I become an altar boy? christians are sex offenders bro
>>43619134>some guys told me I had to be careful of not walking alone at night because I looked kinda fem and I could get assaulted, so I kinda became weary of menHoly fembrain... It's over, you're already a woman. Just take your vitamin E.
>>43619149I like being a man
>>43619142no i am not i am just saying that a lot of gay Christians have these similar values around relationships.
>>43619164they don't bro. my sister was involved with the opus dei and it was not nice
>>43619180you want to find Christian men who are "side a" on homosexuality (meaning affirming, and probably seeking a homosexual relationship).
>>43619217priests tell everyone how bad homosexuality is, a guy who goes to mass every sunday despite of that is not what I'm looking for or someone I want to deal with
>>43619235idk i go to an episcopal church that has a gay man married to another man as a priest do you think im messed up for that
>>43619235While I also hate religion and christcucks can go fuck themselves, many strands nowadays aren't homophobic (they ignore all the homophobia in their holy books, logically inconsistent, but better than the alternative). Many protestant churches do gay marriage and even have married gay pastors nowadays.
>>43619162Not anymore, sis
>>43619269can we stop forcefemming him?
>>43619266>>43619267Do you think I'll be able to find a church that preaches your obscure sect of christianism and find a good guy I'd like to date in my catholic country?Also every migrant protestant I've ever met was way crazier than catholics here
>>43619288That's what happens when you post the most fembrained shit on /tttt/. Welcome to the streets!
>>43619315no i don't believe you will find my exact christian sect but i do believe that there is a higher chance of finding someone for you if you look for the Christian gay men who live in that tension because on average we are a lot more relationship oriented. Christianity has been reigning in and getting men to chill for 2000 years, and you are more likely to find what youre looking for if someone believes sleeping around distorts your relationship with God/is a sin
>>43618759I wish this post was real but "trans women who want long term relationships" are just hookers trying to trick men into a paid gig
>>43619315Episcopalians are only "protestant" by a technicality (not being Roman Catholic). In terms of liturgy, structure, and beliefs, they are closer to a modern western Roman Catholic than any sect of true protestantism.
>>43619326its not fembrained to want something real
So the conversation has derailed... Are there boys who would be willing to date me without demanding sex or should I try my luck with butch bisexual girls or something?
>>43619492Sure, just that you need to understand that sex is part of the relationship. Yes, naturally not immediately
>>43619502this is not true
>>43619510This is NOT an ACE thread
>>43619547I made the thread retard, I choose what this thread is about.Also I'm not ace, I just have strong negative reactions when someone demands sex
>>43619559>strong negative reactions Good, now you know what you need to work on.
>>43619492Nuff was said, clearly the answer is 'yes, but you have to look, they can be hard to find'
>>43619590>if you don't want to get raped you need to go to therapybro, I know this is a larp and bait site, but honestly, KILL YOURSELF!!!!
>>43619377No this post is 100% real, I got a hot high value chaser bf shortly after starting to take estrogen and I cant wait to spend the rest of my life with him :D. He even left a cis woman for me.
>>43617839Bichad with gay bf here, just find a good man :]
If being loved by a man is impossible, how about getting him to pretend he loves me? Is this possible?I'm gonna rope soon anyway, probably I won't find out until I die
>>43617839I feel like I'm heterosexual homoromanticIs it the ultimate doom?Not enough foid simping to go after foids, not enough gay sex drive to go after gays.
>>43621297I was birromantic until a girl broke my self esteem, I became homorromantic until a boy broke my confidence, and now I'm a loser arromantic
>>43621384I just came to the conclusion that I can't have enough feelings for people with infinitely different socialisation than me, which excludes most women and ultragays.Maybe I'm Atismromantic
>>43621297Try dating a trans woman?
>>43621441Doubt they exist here, cuz without the Western enabled spread of agp, I think most trans women we do have are literally the HSTS fembrained ultragays.
>>43621471>HSTS fembrained ultragaysIsnt this the ideal girlfriend?
>>43621480No, ultragays never had the repressor chud phase and other relatable struggles.I also suspect they're chadsexual and slutmaterialistic, so how're they better than women?
>>43621560Thats not true though, lots of us did have to rep due to abusive families :(. I am chadsexual though, thankfully there are lots of Chad chasers
>>43621577I wish I had a cute twinkhon, to share our sperg hobbies. But we just don't have em here.
>>43621678They are here in abundance complaining that they have no bf every single day. Also Im a passoid but I was a manmoder when I met my boyfriend years ago and he helped to feminize me, try this
>>43621700Where here? I'm white nigga from Eastern Europe.
>>43621760For me it was on /vg/ 3 years ago and I am american but my boyfriend lives in europe. We handle the long distance pretty well and will hopefully move to be together within a year
>>43621813this guy met a gay dude and he thought he was european because of his lisp lmaoooooo
So, should I offer sex in advance in the hope they'll learn to love me later on? Is this my only option?
>>43623790It might work if you are the top but at what cost? There are bottoms out there looking for the same thing. Just be clear about your requirements but don't make it sound like you never want sex. From what you've said itt it sounds like you just aren't super high libido right? As a bottom with the same view as you dating apps are horrible real life groups are probably good (idk i dont like going outside) and check out the lgbt frengen and soc lgbt frengen sometimes and maybe post your bio there it has worked for me before. and who knows maybe I see yours there and snatch you up