Is wanting to be a woman enough to be a woman? Or do you have to already truly believe and feel as though you are one?
If wanting to be a woman made you a woman, you would be a woman but you aren't
>>43618691neither. you need to pass as one.
>>43618691you have to be born a woman what u feel doesnt matter
>>43618715This. I'm a woman but I don't feel like I am a woman. I don't even want to be a woman, I just am one
>>43618715if a man looks like a woman (short, small, hips etc), does that count as being born a woman?
>>43618734yes you can be born a trans woman or a cis woman but u cant become one
>>43618691Being a woman is something you learn and live through.
>>43618732afab repper?>>43618738what constitutes a trans woman?
>>43618745a woman born in a mans body
>>43618755why does the mans body have to already look like a womans body to count?
>>43618762it doesnt have to be but it helps
>>43618703I wish someone explained this to me before I made a fool of myself believing men could become women.
>>43618769do you think hons are women?
>>43618691being a woman requires being biologically femalet.cis male on hrt
>>43618831Not all but some probably are, locked in their eternal man prison never to be recognized as a woman by others
being a woman is the result of interpellation as such by observers. you can do things (eg transitioning) to effect this interpellation, but really your wants and feelings are not the determining factor. "woman" is a social identity and necessarily dependent upon the way you exist and are seen by others
>>43618913so if its impossible to make yourself look like a woman, you can never be one?
>>43618923nta but yes.
>>43618923no, not necessarily. though i pass in everyday life, my grandparents still misgender me; to them, i am a man. my appearance is irrelevant. conversely, someone who does not pass might be genuinely seen as a woman: perhaps i am biased as a tranner myself, but the passability of a trans woman often has nothing at all to do with the way i perceive them, generically. appearance definitely helps, but it is not the be-all or end-all, either. it's really just about how people see You.i started thinking about things this way mostly because i personally feel like nothing inside and i don't care about being a woman so much as i care about having a female body. i still exist socially as a woman because that is simply the way the world views me. it's the same reason "theyfabs" are so derided. however they might see themselves, you (not you, specifically, unless this is true of you, specifically) do not. you are exercising your power as the Observer to assign them the identity that you believe is most accurate. everybody does this to everyone, subconsciously.
>>43618755How do we distinguish this type of person from an ordinary man?
>>43619209We can't. It's impossible
>>43619289Well that suckst. confused estrogenated thing
>>43618691First things first you gotta have a pair of X chromosomes. If you don’t the there’s no point since you will never be a woman!
>>43618691The framing of these question is always retarded
i think that "trutrans" women tend to have something you could call a feminine spirit. hrt sort of feminizes your mind a little bit scientifically so by wanting to be a woman you can become more feminine which makes you more of a woman which makes you more feminine which makes you want to be more of a woman. And eventually you cross a threshold where you believe that you're a woman and other people do.
>>43619391cope
>>43619402just because the thought brings you happiness doesn't mean it's a cope. transition is a medical miracle of the modern age even if it isn't perfect
>>43619414You have a severe mental illness and you would feel better sedated with Xanax than you would with a surgical wound where your male genitalia used to be that you must keep open everyday and pray no infection occurs.
>>43619426turn all trannies into drug zombies so they dont weird me out when if see them at the store, brilliantalso i'm planning on keeping my shit thx
>>43619426i like being happy instead of on xanax
>>43619440Yeah unironically it’s preferable to watching them mumble and grumble when they get publically embarrassed which is everytime they show themselves>keeping his dick and ballsSo you’re just a male with agp that would have been more straightforward
>>43619447i want an orchi but i'll never afford a pussy so w/e
>>43619378its a complicated issue, how would you phrase the question?
>>43618691I wish I was a woman but yeah I cant be one and neither can you
>>43619391HRT has zero mental effects if ur already a girl I refuse to believe anything otherwise why would it do anything to ur mind that doesnt even make sense Also who wants to be a woman that doesnt even make sense being a woman is bullshit especially if u have a dick
>>43620429Interesting, I assume cis women also don’t get any mental effects from sex hormones?
>>43620429>HRT has zero mental effects if ur already a girlthat's not true. if you've ever had a girl conversation with post menopausal women you'd know better. people really act like women DONT get estrogen therapy and report it helping their mood and energy levels and libido
DoubtCope
>>43621009ntawhile technically true a postmenopausal woman have a deficiency that gives secondary effects, it isn't a mental effect in itself. being constantly tired and not having proper body function makes people sad even if their hormonal status is fine.
>>43621009>girl conversationi.e. ?
>>43618691LMAO ive fully transitioned socially, medically, everything, and i still dont feel like a woman. many of my new female friends dont even know that im trans and yet i still feel like a feminized male who WANTS to be a woman. what you want is just what you want and nothing more. but to answer your question, of course your want is enough; what you want out of life is the only thing that matters for you, really.>>43618703truthnuke. is trans women were women then we wouldnt have to transition, we would simply BE women, like women are. we start as queer males and become feminized males who live as women. which is fine if you pass, but clearly different from being a woman
>>43618913>>43619038well put you are an intelligent little tranny
>>43620429>HRT has zero mental effects>why would it do anything to ur mind that doesnt even make senseestradiol is literally a neurotransmitter in the brain. it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for it to NOT have mental effects when the concentration of estradiol changes in your brain.
>>43623388it really never stops feeling like you're a boy playing dress up? sheit
>>43623604to some people it may. ive heard trans women saying that they dont really think about their transness anymore. for me it never stopped.that shouldnt stop you from transitioning though even if you end up like me. im significantly happier this way than living as a moid. like night and day. i dont identify as a woman, but rather a feminized faggot who looks like a woman, but i guess i dont need to literally be a woman to be happy. and in some way its kind of cool to be this way rather than a real foid. its got a certain swag to it
>>43618703Yes you would. This is your problem right here you don't see yourself as a woman you see yourself as a man you'll always be a man because that's the way you believe you are
>>43623388Because you're either never fully accepted yourself as being a woman or deep down you really don't want to be a woman
Can i be a women if i need a wig?
>>43623810also wondering this
>>43623810>>43624834yes nonas :( i wish this were not even a question
>>43623388thx
>>43618691Wanting to be a woman bare minimum makes you trans.Time to commit or rep
>>43618691if your index finger is longer than your ring finger, you're a woman
>>43626120it looks longer from one side but from the other the ring finger is clearly longer :/
i truly felt, and believed to core of my soul, that i am a woman, but after lots of reflection its very clear now that is not enough. truly, i will never actually be a woman. i can deeply want to be a woman and feel bad for myself and cry about it but that will never actually make me a woman
>>43619373This is ridiculous statement of course you can be a woman.
>>43619426Please don't lie about something you've obviously don't know about!You' never had the surgery. I did, I'll tell you there's nothing at all infective about it .. I don't even notice the genital change anymore
>>43618691You stopped to actually believe you are a woman to be successful at living as a woman. But you're not a little bit delusional, you will never manage or have any happiness
>>43623793>Because you're either never fully accepted yourself as being a womantrue>or deep down you really don't want to be a womanalso probably true not gonna lie. on one hand i wish i was a woman but on the other hand being a feminized male who passes as a woman is a more honest description of my identity and maybe i should just accept that and stop wanting to be a woman at all
