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Is it normal to be weirded out when touching your own breasts?
I love having them and I don’t mind looking at them, but I get super uncomfortable whenever I touch them like I’m touching them without permission, and it feels wrong
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no, you're literally rayping wombyn by touching yourself
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>>43619232
imd touching mine, sometimes i do that unconsciously but its seeing them that feels off somewhat. its better than having a completely flat chest(im not too far off from that thoughbeit ;'L) but they feel a bit out of place on my moided ass body
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>>43619232
i do it to stim lowk. doesnt feel weird.
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>>43619245
It feels like that desu

>>43619255
I can understand how the juxtaposition would make that weird yeah

>>43619302
I’ve heard cis women do this a lot
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>>43619232
no not at all it feels part of me... not inappropriate because it's me that's just weird.

>>43619245
i really hate this argument. my body is mine not yours??
why do terfs act like we're raping women when we transition it's literally just living in your own body.

>>43619255
yeah it's rly nice but also it's weird having them. like i look down and it's unexpected even though i wanted them and expected them when i had a flat chest. i think that's because they are a lot bigger than i wanted? but god it's weird having a large amount of fat on my chest now that hangs there.
i get why trans men would be dysphoric tbqhon, this should be opt-in.
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Yes, there's nothing special about them, they're just part of you like any other squishy fat is on your body
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>>43619371
Breast for transitioning should be opt-in?

Faketrans
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>>43620254
no i mean for all women... all humans tbhon.

if you transition you are opting in duh.
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>>43619232
Please don't use what I'm about to say to justify being hateful to others, but:

Internalized misandry is why. You can't erase the trauma and humiliation ritual done onto you, as is done to all amabs.

It feels wrong, because part of the reason one is compelled to transition is because they're sick of being the rapist gender. It feels wrong because half of transphobia is exactly the same shit that you've always dealt with when you were still presenting as male.

"You're just a man who wants to rape women's pussy" is what all the transphobes tell you. It's exactly the same shit people tell all men, except worse because you're trying to escape it. Now you have a body that you can see as a woman's, so you aren't even allowed to touch yourself. To touch yourself would be to prove the hate correct. It's no longer your body. You are public property now.

I hope you eventually see yourself as the victim gender, rather than just your body, and you assimilate, or I hope you transcend the gender pressures bullshit so you can actually move on and find peace. What you're describing sounds horrific. Feminazis stole your body from you. Maga assholes stole your body from you. You can't even touch your own body because we as a soceity deem you a suspect rapist and we just can't get over our hatred of amabs.
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>>43619302
me too desu
>>43619342
>I’ve heard cis women do this a lot
lol real?? i guess that makes sense but i kind of just thought i was weird
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>>43620766
You may have hit the nail on the head with this

How do I fix it?
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>>43621786
If you continue to transition, maybe eventually you'll stop seeing yourself as a man.

But, the damage is done. The best you can do is not let it make you hate life. Don't fall into hopelessness. Do not view yourself as an insect. View everyone around you as elderich beings beyond comprehension. Gender shit is hard to change. The "reality" of it is blinding.

You can use reason. "It's wrong to have prejudice toward people for their gender. It's my body. I feel it. Nobody else." But reason was never the problem. You'd do well to be more tolerant towards men. It's wrong to assume or deem them suspect, when they're also individuals too. Your hatred should be toward rapists if you must hate anybody, including female rapists and gender neutral ones.

You will reap society's prejudice towards men and you will feel the weight of it personally, until you let go of seeing men that way. You presented male once. You were touched by an identity that wasn't yours, and you will continue to feel those people's suffering if you let yourself develop contempt for men. This is very hard to do, since society fights you every step of the way with what people say, and all of the content posted online. Part of what people say constitutes being male is being a rapist in some shape or form. But this isn't essential.

After you forgive men, it will be easier to actually be a woman. After you stop viewing men that way, you might not have this dichotomy between rapist and rape victim and instead have a more refined understanding of masculinity and femininity.

If only I could follow my own advice. I wouldn't be so miserable. I'm male, and my sexuality is built around femdom because I feel uncomfortable with feeling like a rapist. It causes me a lot of pain, frustration, loneliness, shame of not wanting "rape," and shame for wanting "rape." It's absolutely absurd I am this way. There's no way to win from my perspective. I know this. But reason is not enough to fix me.
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>>43621786
>>43622665
I slipped up my wording. Sorry. In my brain, I view regular consentual sex as rape. I can't help it. I view anything men do as rape or somehow fucking somebody over or exploitative. You don't have to "forgive" men because that implies men did something wrong. An entire class of people can't "do" anything. It's not right for people to somehow be guilty by association. You just need to see them as individuals. Same as women.

I'm sorry. I don't have the best advice for actually fixing this. I wouldn't be on 4chan if I knew how to fix it.
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You are allowed to play with your tits. They're yours. And later they are your partner's too.
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>>43619232
why is she so hot



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