>"but but i need to be really attractive I cant just be an average women!!!"
first of all, agp
second of all, if you have naturally wide hips while skinny and a 26 ribcage then go ahead
if not
fatmaxx(the average healthy women is around ~25% bf)
being chubby as a woman is normal and expected

>>43619724
25% bf is not fat maxxed honey, the average troon probably already is around there, they are all skinny fat

>>43619684
>think hrt is magic or something and will convert you into a women
nobody here thinks this
people just dont have energy and the money needed to do stuff
also fatmaxxing is dumb

>>43619724
>>43619759
25% bf is 21-22 bmi for wombyn

>>43619759
this post was more directed at the anorexics around here but yes you are right
real fatmaxxing just turns you into cow(ideally)
>>43619765
trannies say this but then whine about how they dont have enough results after 1 year hrt like female puberty doesnt take several years

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what? nothing u listed matters or guarantees passing
its genetics and surgery

I just hope I die by some miracle accident . I know hrt isn't magic I just take it to cope in the meantime.

>>43619799
anon the problem is not the lack of results of hrt, the problem is male puberty
female puberty takes 1.5 to 6 years

>>43619799
holy shit cow is a gigaluckshit who was anorexic and got lucky with fat redistribution

gaining any weight whatsoever will just give the average tranny a beer gut why did fatmaxxing become a thing

>gaining any weight whatsoever will just give the average tranny a beer gut why did fatmaxxing become a thing
this wasnt true for me pre hrt or now
idk if you have shitty fat distribution then maybe but thats kind of what hrt is for
the issue is a lot of trannies and people in general dont fucking exercise so when they gain any weight it looks terrible cause its formless and sloshy
if you have bad fat distribution workout first and then slowly gain fat

>>43619949
Unless one was always fit before trooning its pretty common to have a persistent tummy after hrt

>t. Healthy fit troon of 10 years still with a persistent tummy

>>43619949
okay so you're a luckshit too
gaining 2.5kg gave me an extra inch on my waist, half an inch on my bust, and nothing at all on my hips, as it would for anyone born a man. now i have to starve myself back down again so i don't feel embarrassed looking in the mirror or trying to send photos to my bf

>>43619684
>saving money
im a neet that can't keep a job for more than 3 months so surgery is a pipe dream
>exercising
>fatmaxxing
>weight cycling
depends entirely on your genetics all the weight I gain goes into my stomach and when I loose it I just look like a twink
>voice training
no point when u look like a dude
>learning makeup
doesn't help you pass any better unless you do major contortion and at that point why bother putting 10pounds of make up on just to go outside
>learning skincare
hrt cleared up my skin so I just put lotion on when I'm feeling dry
>growing out/taking care of hair
only thing that made a difference for me because I learned how to use my hair to hide my caveman brow
>working up to girlmoding
i girl mode when I do stuff with other people but 99% I just wear gym shorts and a tee cus comfy and I rarely leave the house enough for it to matter

t.4 years hrt hon

>>43619684
nobody on this truscum board ever said hrt is magic but go off queen

>>43619981
idk i was underweight as a kid and lean/fit before hrt(17)
>okay so you're a luckshit too
no
t. 32 underbust, 16 shoulders 5'5

>>43620012
>truscum board
not OP but how so?

I tried fat maxing after anamaxxing very hard down to a pretty low weight nd being 2+ yrs on high dose e injections and it made me a disgusting blob that I can't get off me even 3 yrs later and I don't know what to do anymore. I can't wear anything I just feel so fucking disgusting do not ever fall for the fatmaxxing meme. People like cow that promote obesity are disgusting agp fetishists that should kill themselves.

>>43620021
try having 17" shoulders at 5'5"
also i was talking about fat redistribution not bone structure

>>43620045
cow looks awful. her face was good before and obviously continues to look good after fatmaxxing

rough thread to be tall in kek

5'5 genuinely like bottom 5% in male height lmao

>>43620045
how much weight did you gain and what were you when you started? not gonna point fingers just want to know so i don't do the same

>>43620040
are you stupid?

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>>43620089
not as rare as that

>>43620021
Those measurements are all respectable, slightly luckshit

>>43620137
this board is not truscum

>>43620190
LMAOOO

>>43620089
you can be 5'3 like me and have 0% chance of passing
>>43620144
mfw 1%er

>>43620045
did you just straight gain weight or were you watching what you ate + working out with that

>>43620212
what could your measurements possibly be like to where you cant pass at 5'3 :<

>>43619684
>fatmaxxing
>picrel
are you serious?

>>43620231
>also stop inducing bdd by comparing yourself to the top 1-5% of women on the internet
picrel is not a realistic body goal for like 80-90% of women
>second of all, if you have naturally wide hips while skinny and a 26 ribcage then go ahead
if not
fatmaxx(the average healthy women is around ~25% bf)
being chubby as a woman is normal and expected
literacy rates at an all time low

>>43620226
people on this board accuse me of steroid use

>>43620245
I stopped reading your post at that point. While I agree with the general message, that you need to put in more effort, you just somehow expect everyone to have good skeletons and good fat distribution. I worked out insanely hard during my first two years of transition, while gaining like 10lbs and it still made me a brick. People also called my bigger legs masculine and my calves and ankles got fatter which is ugly. Thus I don’t believe in fatmaxxing and 99% of the fat trannies I have seen on this board look disgusting. I myself am trying weight cycling now and I am still regaining that weight, but my expectations are very low.

If you ask me, HRT, exercise and everything will always come down to genetics. You either have them or you don’t and they will decide like 80% of the outcome. Not everyone will become an hourglass or get the boobs/butt they want. My family gave me small boobs and I struggle to get my butt to grow and feel big. It sucks

>>43620319
while gaining like 20lbs*

>>43620319
this makes me wonder
what percent of trans women(after say maybe 3 years idk)
would you say could pass as conventionally attractive(like maybe a 6/10) cis woman?

also OP is a luckshit projecting

>>43619684
you need to lurk moar if you think that's the status quo
effortmaxxing is very ymmv anyways
>I honestly suspect theres a racial component to this effortmaxxing thing idk
it's an interesting thought but i doubt it changes much in practice, you see tons of posts from trans women of different ethnicities here and it doesn't seem like growing up a minority steeled or tempered them, if anything they have their own unique and arguably worse attitudes to deal with regarding transness
unless you mean dimorphism which is basically a racist generalization

>>43619860
source?

>>43620350
I cannot guess that. My own personal opinion would be less than 1/10 pass and that is due to a lack of effort. If you ask about passing, then skincare, haircare, makeup and voice training matter the most, which you can all do regardless of genetics. This is where more than 9/10 fail willingly.

My issue is that passing ≠ happiness with your own body. I pass but my body still registers as "athletic twink with tiny breasts" in my head and it makes my dysphoria shoot through the roof

>>43620387
no I meant effortmaxxing and its not rlly my opinion but rather what ive seen on this board
there was a few posts a while back of some white trans women complaining about white people have the largest dimorphic gap between sexes
+ white trans women apparently effortmaxxing less which idk i cant confirm

>>43619860
>>43620389
Not true. Cow looked normal and attractive, then she got morbidly obese for her feeder bf and now she looks disgusting

>>43619684
>fatmaxxing
opinion immediately discarded

>>43620389
fat cells take 7 years to die, gaining weight will reinflate your existing ones (read:moid) instead of creating new ones

>>43619724
right cause no woman would ever want to be attractive
erm r u maybe retarded?

??? what did cow look like before
im curious

>>43620445
It's why you need to do stuff like cryolipo to kill old fat cells and do whatever you can to induce adipogenesis elsewhere.

>>43620125
When I started I was fat as fuck because I had no will to live and was planning on ropeing anyway, trooning was some kinda last ditch effort or was supposed to be. So when I started I was like 200. Then I got down to 120 through the power of fasting, and lots of caffeine and cigarettes and I felt great. And now I'm like 190 again. I'm 5'11 so I'd still be a gigahon anyway but now I'm also a disgusting obese retard. Isn't it funny how nothing ever works out

>>43620456
no the part im making fun of is the way some trans women here will compare themselves to unrealistic baselines
Literally yesterday some 5/10 chubby woman was posted and half the replies were saying how this build is a massive outlier and the average woman is actually really hot blah blah bdd bullshit
youre trans
chances are you are not going to be hot
strive to be a meh looking woman at best

>>43619684
Post fatmaxxing examples that actually worked

>>43620476
fuck

I did something similar but I haven't gained all of my weight back but I'm like 15lbs heavier than my lightest >.>

>>43620445
thats a myth

>>43620488
the troll answer would be cow(luckshit)
everyone knows leaning out is better anyways

>>43620480
nvm Ur not retarded I get it thx for clarifying

>>43620497
this has to be her or her bf posting anon because nobody sane would call this wannabe my 600lb life contestant a luckshit

>>43619684
none of this matters

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>>43620424

>>43620521
before pics?
ive only seen post feeder cow

killing myself cus ill never look like >>43619684
picrel

>>43620554
HI LEO
ich auch :(
aber du bist sehr nahe dran mit deinen Hüften, ehrlich

>>43619684
>not really trans men cause T is actually effective
People still believe this?

>>43620570
servus :D was geht

>>43620544
eh there's one at a train station but my name isn't veltail so I haven't foldered it.
She passed quite well at what seems to be much less than a year of hrt but now, eh fat ppl are the true non-binaries I think

>>43620575
yes?

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>>43620554
neither can most cis women soooooooo
youll be fine

>>43620577
Mies gelaunt sein wegen Dysphorie und weil ich nicht wie eben solche cis Frauen aussehe, mood seit einer Woche. Gestern war ich das erste Mal seit einer Ewigkeit joggen und sprinten um mich abzureagieren und in der Hoffnung dass es mit der Figur hilft

>>43620606
just saying "you can't look like this but others can't either so you will be fine" is really shitty and not productive in the slightest.
>oh you are depressed but so are others, there that will make you feel better

>>43620614
allways remember joggen gibt dir eine blocky waist, sprinten nicht
warum postest du nicht mit trip, heute?

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>>43620629
weil mich sonst Leute grundlos beleidigen, duh. Sprinten ist mehr Muskeltraining und kurz und anstrengend though, joggen bei moderatem bis hohem Tempo macht mir viel Spaß dagegen

>>43620642
ah fair enough...

>>43620628
uh no what im saying is dont rope over not being super pretty bc most women are also not super pretty
your goal transitioning should to become a woman not neccesarily become a supermodel
im saying reframe your expectations obviously it sucks that most trans women dont pass/arent hot/arent femme or whatever but thats just how it be
and i never said it to make them feel better I said they will be fine

>>43620636
nta
holy fuck i didn't realise how much of a luckshit she was. her bf should kill himself for what he's doing

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>>43620636
what the fuck.
why did she
why
huh?
how long was she on hrt here?

>>43620636
Why get fat???? She's fucking gorgeous

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pre hrt or very early btw

>>43620636
fatmaxxing works if you're already a woman ig

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>>43620407
>+ white trans women apparently effortmaxxing less which idk i cant confirm
yea idk, i'm sure there's an element of 'first time being a minority' that weighs on white trans ppl
i think it's more-so that this place trends toward western countries with white majorities tho

>>43620656
I literally pass but feel like shit because of my body as I have said here >>43620400
. It is not that simple and dysphoria is not rational

>>43620681
>let me post this image as a reminder to anyone who lurks this thread, being skinny is not worth it, as an ex-twinkhon i pass so much better now thanks to gaining weight.
>results differ per genetics but it can still help alot
grim

>>43620636
>>43620662
roooppefueel

id love to see a composite of what the average trans women looks like
i wonder how far off it is from the likes of cow(pre feeding arc)

>>43620736
sooooo far off you wouldn't believe. only youngshits, luckshits, and richshits pass and for each of them there's 5 oldshits gigahons to cancel them out

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>>43619684
are you a xitterfag
this reads exactly like it and last week i tried browsing the site for a little while and almost died laughing when i saw a thread about trannies talking about how hrt is important and you cant just do gym shit and people treating that like a truth nuke, the idea that was even remotely a contested idea had me rolling

anyways shut the fuck up and kill yourself. average tourist savior complex. 'hrt should be a bonus' this take should get you locked in a retard asylum for eternity

>>43620387
theyre a twitter tourist, obsessively bringing up race out of nowhere is a core part of their personality

>>43620700
>imagine the loose skin after
grim
doggy style like hanging sheets out to dry
breasts like an empty plastic giftbag
>t. ex fattie

>>43620875
no

>>43620904
doesnt matter what you say to her she is as/more mentally ill than when she was anamaxxing

>>43620949
no what? either way lurk moar and drop the savior complex PLEASE.

just be like cow, simple
what could go wrong
/thread

>>43620690
fucking real. it's just a fetish rlly

just be a luckshit
/thread

>>43620904
Loose skin sucks so fucking much being an obesoid growing up was just as bad as testosterone

>>43619684
>just gain weight
Ok how I’m so fucking bad at eating a reasonable amount of calories each day

>>43620875
they are right though, you are the retard that can't take being confronted with the truth

>>43619684
I'm all about screwing women in the ass but if guys could start looking like anons picture then things could change.

>>43621130
really? how convincing. more superiority. go and cope some more pleaase. nothing was actually said in the OP. try to make a point instead of grasping at straws from la la land. lets see how well you can pass without hrt.

>>43621075
its a strategy

>>43621118
dumb parents?

>>43621192
i dont know if OP is advocating to not take hrt
what theyre saying is that hrt is just one part of the equation methinks which is true
if you pass just sitting on your ass putting prog in your butt you were already a luckshit
i would go as far to say as you can probably tell if youre gonna pass or not pre hrt

>>43621130
If you think there's anyone on this board for whom what op said is new you need to go back

>>43621237
terrible fat parents + SSRIs + severe lung issues

>>43620144
I just took my statistics final and holy shit I actually understand this graph so much better.

Hormone production implants fix all this. bodybuilders, trannies and the hormone challenged will love em.

>>43621248
ok so you're missing my point and also have nothing real to say. you're prolly just a babytrans but please do get some reading comprehension

>>43619684
>just be a hon
uh huh suure

this advice is whatever but the real issue is wasting time on 4chan tranners
none of these people are gonna pass
>>43620400
this

>>43621307
either that or be a man
ive never been under the impression most will pass thats just how it is
you can always rep

>>43621563
>being a repper or a hon is better than boymoding/manmoding
walking optics nuke

>>43621603
not my problem
im none of the above

>>43621755
>cant understand hypotheticals
wow what a surprise

>>43621816
nta but being a hon is better than moding of any kind for some
not everyone wants to larp as a guy their whole life

this thread is just OP baiting all the way down
this board always fall for the same shit
nothing but ragebait

>>43619684
how the fuck to people even get into voice training like that shit is impossible

>>43621855
>for some

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>>43621888
hons will hon
what can you do
being a hon isnt even real desu anyone can pass with time
1 year
3
5
10
we cant all look like picrel but a meh looking women probably

>>43620007
>excuse
>excuse
>another excuse
>t. hon
have you tried being better

>>43622392
try xitter

>>43619684
nothing would ever work because sometimes bones just make it all impossible, even if i did all of that nothing would make me pass

>>43620694
as a white trans woman it absolutely is first time being a minority. holy shit I cringe at my babytrans self.

>>43621855
being a hon makes sense when it's a means to an end. I can't imagine wanting to honmode the rest of your life. all power to you if that's what you want, but I just don't get it.

>>43619684
Ok yeah
But how do i learn make up and learn skin care and how do i girlmode
>taking estrogen pills
Pills are suboptimal period. Are there any girls here who've done shots and been dissapointed?

>>43622468
no thankfully i have lucky genes so when i do transition i wont be a hon but yeah
i would never want to honmode for life
sounds rough

>>43622474
>how do i learn makeup
youtube
>skincare
cleanser, salicylic acid, snail mucin, moisturizer, sunscreen during the day, and retinol at night
>how do i girlmode
you wear girl clothes and makeup and go outside and use your girl voice and if people ask what your name is you use your chosen name.

>>43619837
Incorrect, all it takes is one lucky person to get some kind of early results, and all of the work other girls have done goes down the drain and the dooming starts, and then they start to sabotage each other.

Truly woman behavior

>>43622474
>makeup
google
female friends
your mother
>skincare
google
things to look at:
stopping hyperpigmentation(if youre not white)
toners
oil cleansers
exfoliators
salicylic acid(for ingrown hairs, bumps etc.)
azelaic acid(clears up the face, moisutrize over it it drys you out)
etc.
>girlmode
find the right sizings for you and figure out what fits you like over time

why are people so helpless on this board? There are plenty of things you can do to make yourself look better. We live in a time where you have a gulf of info right at your fingertips and tranners will still make thread after thread freaking out about basic stuff. Ideally these are things you get a grasp on pre transitioning(similar to voice training) but it cant be helped.

and no im not saying if you do all this you will pass, im not saying that at all
but its not like injecting is the only thing you can do in the world.

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>>43622536
truly

OP
>hey theres things you can do besides taking e and rotting on 4chan
>"no none of this works its just luck! fuck you luckshits!"

Like obviously OP is baiting but there is a point here

>>43622503
>>43622536
Thanks
Im just helpless because every time i do my make up I cry, my mom hates me, and im in a city with just my boyfriend and no friends cuz i moved. And ive been here for like two years atp and I just stay inside cuz every time I try to socialize irl with strangers I inevitably hide in the bathroom to cry. And when I wear girl clothes that dont fit right I realize I have a man body and I cry.
Basically, im helpless because I cry. Which is probably what every other woman does, bur whatever.

>>43622580
Im bitching and using excuses but that doesnt mean im not gonna keep trying. I just feel helpless cuz im supposed to have figured this shit out in like 2016

>>43619684
>hrt should be a bonus on top of weight cycling/fatmaxxing
do you hear yourself?

>>43622580
aww im sorry nona
ik im being rlly abrasive but its more of a general frustration then something aimed at you in particular
obviously everyones experinence is different but you still gotta work up to these kinds of things
its a long path but youll get it and at least youre trying at it
I would try and find some nice third spaces to get you back on your feet socially(dont hang out with other tranners)

>>43622603
>"hrt will turn you into a woman!!!!"
>fuck you thats honscience hrt barely does shit(mfw when man with gyno)
>"hrt does a decent bit but its mostly other stuff you should focus on"
>fuck you are you insane!!! *types out long list of why none of these things went right for them*
>"hrt is placebo iwnbaw wahhh!"
>take your pills, Alice

what do you people want from me
ive grown tired of the "my transitioned failed after a year iwnbaw its so over for me!" threads

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>>43622474
me. Like breast development sucks ass even with good blood tests

>>43622700
this is still more than ive seen pilled girls get, but /hugs hope you get more satisfied i heard it takes a while

>>43622474
pills give the same results period

>>43622567
/thread

>>43622580
yea i feel that. you just gotta keep trying.
>every time I do my makeup I cry
it's a skill for sure, and just like any other skill it takes a bit to learn. youtube is a good resource for a general look, but the highest yield stuff for trannies specifically (besides not doing a shit job and looking like a clown) is contour and color corrector for facial hair.
also get your fuckin eyebrows done so many trannies cook themselves by ignoring that and it makes such a huge difference
>my mom hates me
fuck her
>no friends
yea like the other nona said I'd recommend finding a third space, though I'd argue that avoiding trans spaces is not necessarily helpful. just don't make that your whole social life.
>socialize with strangers -> hide in bathroom
I feel that. is it just overwhelm or do you feel like you say something bad and then admonish yourself?
>girl clothes that don't fit
what about clothes that do fit? it doesn't have to be like hyperfem girly clothes; it can be a button down women's shirt with jeans, but with some nice earrings, necklace, bracelets, rings, and some matching shoes and a purse is enough to girlmode.

>>43622700
It's literally been only 4 months. This is exactly what OP is talking about, HRT will not just make you a woman and it takes many years to work gradually. You just expected to grow C cups in 6 months LMFAO

>>43622848
>fuck her
Tbh i think shes mostly valid cuz I was a traumatizing, abusive teenager, but I think she snapped and blocked me when she was convinced I transed my brother. I came out to my family, then shortly after he comes out to me. I just gave him some anecdotes about gender dysphoria and some reassurance. I never pushed him one way or another lol
>third space
I feel like this is sort of socializing with strangers but with different vocabulary. Idk. I dont admonish myself or anything like that, I just get super overwhelmed. I feel the most welcome in places like board game stores, but everyone else looks so engaged and whenever I try to engage sometimes my words get stuck in my throat and all of a sudden I just feel like i'm gonna cry if I say anything, especially if im not in the middle of a game or something.
>what about clothes that do fit?
I like how I feel in them. I feel great. I love being like a hippie girl. I make my own beaded jewelry and I just layer it up and I feel adorable.

>>43622700
???
this is good growth for what like 5 months?
once again female puberty takes years
idk take prog when you hit 1-1.5 years to fill them out

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>>43622906
this is 14 months btw with EEn injections (+ Progesterone + Bicalutamide).
That picture was taken last year which is why you see "3rd July" there.
My front profile is worse.

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>>43623033
self-reply but the pic I sent in 43623033 is very recent from this April 2026
though in some camera angles it does look good

>>43623033
do you work out? You currently have this skinny fat build thing going on
it would be good for your waist and growing lower body
as for hormones idk its clearly working + areolas are enlarging which is good
just keep taking them tbhon
I can assure you most cis girls do not have C cups by this point

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>>43623059
self-reply
side profile is worse

>>43623009
>mom
yea we all sucked as teenagers that's part of being a teenager lol. still fuck her for not accepting that and for blaming your brother's trooning on you (as if it's something bad that needs blaming)
>third spaces
yeah... i dont have a good solution to this besides exposure therapy. keep showing up.
>girl clothes
well then there ya go! better to rock your personal aesthetic than to do some inauthentic husstuss outfit.

sounds like ur doing a lot better than you give yourself credit for. good luck!

maintain good levels

>>43623067
>do you work out?
atm no. Doesn't working out make you lose more weight?

>>43623109
My full injection cycle is https://pastebin.com/raw/vRcEkFjf

trough is between 200 pg/mL to 355 pg/mL. SHBG is always below 120 and T is suppressed anyway since I'm on 50 mg to 100 mg of Bicalutamide per day.

The EV overdoses is just to see how my body reacts to high E2 levels. I'm not doing those anymore.

>>43623166
it doesnt have to
if you eat at a good surplus while exercising you gain muscle and fat
the #1 aesthetic mistake people make is gaining fat before muscle
fat goes over muscle bc without it doesnt have shape
none of this matters if you were a cis women and blessed with magic gynoid distribution unless you wanna be a gym bunny
but for tranners this is important + too many on this board are either skinny fat and have clearly never worked out in their life or severely underweight and have clearly never worked out in their life

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>I posted this to the self improvement thread:

im currently like 21 bmi 5'4 and have weak lower body measurements(20 thighs and 35 hip circumference) and my ideal would be closer to 23 thighs and 39 hips) so i plan on doing a long term bulk where i only work lower body like 4-5x a week doing
leg press
hip thrusts
lunges
seated leg curls
side lying leg raises
etc.
+
eating a fuckton of(largely clean) food
this is a big shift since i dont like eating much and have been underweight/lean for a looong while
but idk im sticking to it gaining a decent bit of weight has proven my distribution isnt complete ass(waist is 27 rn)

picrel is my breakfeast
its time to get fat
pay no attention to set expenditure in picrel my ideal is like 3200-3500 a day since my baseline is like 1900

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heres what my crono is looking like rn
my goals are a bit different
since im trying to get thick in general(muscle + fat idr give a shit)
so my surplus is gonna be massive for today(like 3600 probably)
I worked out yesterday and my thighs and glutes ache

that said uh dont do what im doing if you have normal male fat distro my waist is smaller than normal cause i store fat a bit better and i need to break my v taper anywyas so
find what works for you type shit

>>43623069
>>43623059
>>43623033
I'm gonna guess you are injecting way too much estrogen too quickly and giving yourself tuberous breasts. Slow the hell down, maybe even lose some weight since your tummy is bulging and has stretch marks

>>43623512
injecting too much estrogen does that? im not the one who posted their tube breasts but huh
how does that work?

>>43623059
>>43623069
you have tuberous breasts and your left is very constricted with NAC herniation
you might actually unironically want to look into massaging and/or pumping if not surgical correction, check out r/nbe there's some posts on there

>>43623512
fwiw we dont actually know what factors cause tuberous breasts
tons of girls here megadosed with normal chest development

>>43623538
yes it happens most commonly in trans women who shoot up copious amounts of estrogen right at the start of their transition. I cannot prove it or explain it other than that it is anecdotal evidence and forming a potential correlation

>>43623512
tuberous breasts are not caused by this, cis women have this too and iirc it can be detected before breast development
t. tubed tranny that increased E very slowly

>>43623551
oh wait yeah don't pump the left one with the herniation, you need surgery to correct the nipple herniation before you try, it'll make it worse otherwise
anyone else reading, just tape nips down otherwise

>>43623538
breast bud formation relies on estrone, not estradiol. injecting too much estradiol will cause tuberous breast because your breast bud doesn't develop properly

get some pills and start estrone cycling, i do 4mg daily for 1 week/month for 4 months then a 4 month break and repeat, but i've heard of doses up to 10mg daily

>>43623599
just check r/transbreasttimelines lol
trannies just tend to have bad tits

>>43619684
this is true but HRT is also probably broken on account of out of puberty window. we might be able to fix some of that but if im wrong on this people will get hurt so im saying nothing.

>>43619684
I want to look like this

>>43619684
>just sitting on your butt and taking estrogen pills is suboptimal!!!!!!!!!
And yet it's what 90% of trannies do. I've personally known several, and out of all of them only 1 or 2 actaully did more than just take pills.

what about you? what do you do and what results have u seen from it?

>>43623599
>>43623671
honscience