will ffs save me and what procedures do i need
>>43624647you're actually 14
>>43624647you know how i know you're a spoiled brat? the lacoste polo. ffs will not make you see yourself differently.
a year on estrogen and growing your hair out will save youat most you could get your chin shortened a bit
>>43624647Not an ffs expert but get surgery/filler for your lips, specifically your upper lip to limit the size of your philtrum. Your midface is pretty good for a white troonSomeone else chime in
save u from what
>>43624665this is like how sophie always seems to be dressed in some vineyard vines shit or whatever. trustfundcore
>>43624647I think you would honestly pass rn if you just had longer hair but that wont last long unless you get on estrogen asap
this thread is what the news warns parents about
>>43624665I thought Lacoste was notmie middle class shit for the last 20+ years, I guess they've gotten expensive again recently but still
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>>4362466118, i've just been on e for 8 months>>43624665i didn't buy it myself and my parents didn't either, i got it from a friend>>43624678not passing >>43624689on it>>43624695huh?
>>43624647u look fine, maybe some jaw work could improve but u have a literal perfect nose don’t touch it
>>43624647FFSRib removal BABBLLip injections
>>43624714you're going to pass without ffsstart laser if you haven't already
>>43624647What’s your voice sound like? I feel like your British post voca
>>43624682>>People confusing rich with just Southern white suburban things
Either you're underage or you got on puberty blockers when you were 9
>>43624729i have no dark facial hair, the discolouration in the bottom right was just from it being cold, my face does that fsr
>>43624741i'm British you're right, not posting a vocaroo though i haven't voice trained
>>43624765Lmaooo please
>>43624765your voice never dropped anon. youre 10post the vocaroo
>>43624784>>43624818https://voca.ro/1lnl9Etjt5SOwhatever
>>43624647Lift your hair so we can see your hairline and brows better. A lip lift will do a ton for you. Standard type 3 forehead reduction + orbitals + brow lift as well.
>>43624714>i got it from a friendgrossstdcore
>>43624881Proper British voice fuckin hell
>>43624647your nose and philtrum length is good, your chin will probably be the only immediate thing that'd affect passabilityffs will work well for you - brow, chin, adams apple - europe is cheap for ffs, save up around £16-18k, it'll cover surgery + hospital + transport + accom etc.>>43624674honestly i think her philtrum is fine, par with the midfaceimo lip fat graft or filler would only be needed if chin work changed her facial thirds/proportions enough - a thin upper lip is whatever in isolation>>43624697it is just like burberry became the same>>43624746idd kekshould've worn umbro instead clearly
>>43624647You are so hot it's insane
>>43624647Drop disc
>>43624894laying down
>>43624647girl u need chapstick more than anything
>>43624918Okay yeah type 3 forehead + orbitals + brow lift. Pull your hair all the way back and we can see if you need a hairline advancement. I'd say probably not but you never know.
>>43624647How tall are you
>>43624903thanks for the advice i was looking at Baez because i'm not exactly rich and he's pretty cheap, but i'm more skeptical about his results compared to Lachiver or QQ who i've seen more of
>>43624933it's bad ngl, trying to get it back with Minoxidil, but my hairline has been the same since i was 14 so idk>>436249415'5"
>>43624647You look good as isWould fuck your brains out n spaff in your ass
>>43624961>5'5"ok actually fuck you, i'm hiding your threads from now on
>>43624933also like how bad is the browbone/forehead, ideally i'm trying to get the cost of ffs down as much as possible, and looking at other results i'm conflicted on whether i can get away with it or it's absolutely needed
>>43624961Holy shit
>>43624961If it's been like that since 14 it's from skull growth and not MPB most likely.
>>43625003Browbone is usually no 1 priority but for you it might be secondary to lip lift? It just depends on how you style your hair and whatnot.
>>43625013so does that mean a hairline advancement is gonna be needed?>>43625024idk, it's just about cost for me. trach shave, genioplasty, jaw angle reduction is gonna be like 18k with QQ, those + forehead work will be 15k with Baez
>>43624647Are you hsts or agp
>>43625055I don't think you need jaw angle reduction tbhon. Like I would put browbone above all of those.
>>43625088my bf asked me to stop calling myself hsts and say i'm a straight woman instead >>43625104okay, thanks, i'll probably try to get a quote from QQ soon
>>43625153ygmialso spend less time on this website it's bad for you
>>43625176i don't spend much time here anymore, i moved to other social media but literally everyone is a hellhole so i'll probably try and cut down
>>43625222please treat yourself with love. you deserve to have a place in the world
>>43625222Show me your hole
>>43625222Good ideaLove your boyfriend and make friendsgrow out your hairBe the girl you deserve to be
>>43624945Npnp, also I agree with snoymoder wrt. orbital shave and brow lift.>i was looking at Baez because i'm not exactly rich and he's pretty cheap, but i'm more skeptical about his results compared to Lachiver or QQ who i've seen more ofBaez i've not heard of but i've consulted with the other two (I went to QQ for my FFS)FYI - as a Brit its going to be impossible to get CT scans done in the UK, so what i'd reccomend first is to consult with one of the French surgeons, to get a prescription/ordonnance for a CT scan/imaging. Once you have the script, download Doctolib and book an appointment at a French CT imaging clinic (surgeons will have recommendations if you're unsure where to go). Flights are the cheapest way to get there. You can also ask the surgeon to meet on that day for an in-person consult if you're comfortable with timing (it can get very hectic).Don't go with a surgeon you're unsure about. Don't go with a surgeon that doesn't accept CT scans. Don't go with a surgeon that refuses to DIGITALLY look into your CT scans. I had a congiental deformity that needed accommodation in approach (unilateral sinus aplasia). If I trusted surgeons blindly they would've Barted me. The imaging clinic will give you a digital copy of the scan on USB or disc. It might come with imaging software, but if not RadiANT works well. Familiarize yourself with the surgery, techniques, and your anatomy beforehand. Quizz them, despite the language barrier, you should leave your consultation feeling confident in their (surgical) ability. Shop around, hope it goes well (:
>>43625253No that's a bad idea. If he's gay and likes men he shouldn't try to pretend to be a girl, but no one's gay here.
>>43624647youll be fine5'5 and youre wearing a lacoste polo so your daddy could prolly pay for db or mardi
>>43625262he's clearly not going to grow into a man ever it's better to be a girl.
>>43625104might not even be able to if it's the massetter muscle (hence why ct scans innit), on the bright side that means you can just botox it tho
>>43625275A biological male can never be a girl, and at most you're going to end up a transbian because of how bad chasers are. Don't give people bad advice.
>>43625257wow this is all really helpful tysm! i've screenshotted your advice for when the time comes>>43625271we're working class, it's a hand-me-down from my brother's old friend
>>43625290can you at least trip so i can ignore you gincel
>>43625290>at most you're going to end up a transbian because of how bad chasers aremy bf is trans he's not a chaser :| please don't make assumptions about me
>>43625316leave NOW anon. you still have time
>>43625331??
>>43625308I wish I could ignore you but you're 99% of the board >>43625316>My boyfriend is a woman You guys don't belong here. And you especially don't belong trying to groom kids into being like you.
>>43625360>groom kids>website is 18+literally if anyone is the kid here it's OP
>>43625389That's who I was referring to. If he is AGP and has no choice but to fall into this trap then that's another matter. But if he's not AGP then we shouldn't be trying to lead him astray, right?
>>43624647you're so sexy, i love pounding cuties like you
Sucks to be baldingFix that first dumbass
>>43624647You are chopped so it doesn't matter. Ageing will make you look horrific.
>>43628208He really needs a better skincare routine. His skin and lips look dry. He's not chopped and ginger boys are so hot. He just needs some self care.
what a retarded thread
>>43628272ur retarded
>>43628295let's be retarded together.... anon-kun.......
>>43628309ooooo let's
>>43626071i'm not balding my hairline just sucks >>43628262i'm on accutane, my skin is dry as fuck because of it, believe me my skincare routine is basically the best i can do without any active ingredients
face still changing, give it time ppl itt aren't saying you look young for no reason, you're not done growing and the hrt will help find what needs changing
>>43629398features that are there are there, my chin isn't going to shrink and my browbone won't go down, e 5 years ago would've helped but the growth has happened
>>43624647As far as FFS you'll only need a type 3 forehead job (literally every tranny does who didn't start hrt pre 15). That will only really register as significant change from your side profile. DESU my advice would be; >Let HRT do its thing> Get obsessed with skincare (your lips are on life support from dehydration and dead skin btw). >While on HRT try gaining and losing 2-3kg every 6 months to distribute fat patterns well. >Grow out your hair and learn to shape your eyebrowsYou have a good starting point due to being young. But, without effort and time, you can still throw this advantage away. Dont focus on surgeries rn. Focus on the basics. Nobody who ever passed did it overnight. It takes time, effort, patience and a ton of social anxiety.
>>43624647damn i miss being 18... being 30 fucking sucks
>>43624961>5'5"ygmi.