What have they done wrong?Theyre just trans women who like women right?whats so bad about that?
persecution complex
>>43634970It's like an incel dating another incel, basically you're coping
>>43634988Why is that bad?
>>43634998The question is, do you actually want to date another trans, or you're doing so because you can't date a man or a woman
>>43634970a lot of the most visible transbians are super embarrassing and low effort. but mostly it's because these people let blanchardist psedoscience rule their lives, especially people who identify as HSTS because it gives them a superiority complex
>>436349704Tran will always be a HSTS vs T4T match, don’t mind the haters also look at this cool model kit I built
>>43634970They're men pressuring cis lesbians into sleeping with them for a fetish
>>43635011nobody wants to date a trans except disgusting chasers, trick question
>>43635016adding onto this, chasers see transbians as competition so they spew shit. as though a 5'10 balding manlet who loves cock and emasculation is any competition for a beautiful boobtwink with soft skin and will actually respect you
>>43635040Literally get out your own thread you manchild
>>43635051what thread
>>43635051don't reply to it and give it the satisfaction lmfao
>>43635070just answer the question or fuck off
>>43635022so straight tranners vs transbians basicallywho wins in the end?
>>43635097this is a biCHAD board, and the house always wins
>>43635097who wins between the people who are loved by someone likeminded or the people who are used for sex by a moid who sees their life as a fetish... hmmmm.....
>>43635011a lot of them are agamp, they’re basically fem4fem gays
>>43634970Try to force their peckers on lesbians.
>>43635286only when terfs and bitter hussies and their chasers want to talk shit do i ever hear about that. it doesn't actually happen
>>43634970I don't hate transbians if they aren't creepy about it
Because most are old, ugly, balding straight men with a fetish
>>43634970I guess because they don't accept themselves as gay men. I do. I look like a transgender woman, but I live as a gay man
>>43635508sounds like you hate yourself
>>43634988isn’t a tranny dating a man just the same thing reformatted???
>>43635286blokes in frocks am i right?
>>43634970I'm still unclear on whether or not people mean "trans women who like other women" or specifically "trans women who like other trans women" when they say transbian
>>43634988an incel dating an incel is the opposite of what makes an incel..
>>43634970Honestly it's the same reason cis women don't like lesbians. Can't relate to you, are occasionally creepy, or like stealth-creepy (where you know they want to be creepy but have learned to hide it), and they're just kinda all around weird and uncomfortable to be around. Also the thing that annoys me is how sex negative they are when it comes to transhet, ESPECIALLY with baby trans who are exploring their sexuality for the first time, yet are openly obnoxious about their "vagina-sexuality" and "how much they love tits". It's honestly a weird quasi-homophobia, but it's so abrasive because I'm not the homosexual, they are. I like men, the way most women like men, but I have to hide that so I don't upset the "lesbian" sitting there in bikey leathers and no makeup? In an LGBTQ space of all places? Go fuck yourself you gross creepers, I'm not going to be shamed for enjoying my sexuality.
>>43635286>>43635318They don't "force" it, but they can be really really REALLY fucking gross about trying. Like if a man talked to me the way some transbians talk to cisbians, I wouldn't just let them know how much I got the ick from it, but I'd probably tell someone that it had happened.
>>43638515Trans women who like women. Most of them are cis exclusive even as they exclaim that cis exclusive lesbianism is transphobic.
>>43638515trans women who like/date other women = trans lesbiantrans women who only like/date other trans women = transbianthis is a helpful distinction i've found. non-t4t trans lesbians i've interacted with often don't want to touch the "transbian" label because of the connotation it's developed.
>>43639383That's wrong. Transbian is just a contraction of trans lesbian. T4T trans women don't really have a generic term, but there are pejoratives designed to be cruel to trans women in T4T relationships because no cis man or cis woman will have them.
>>43639653tons of people are using "transbian" assuming that's what it means
>>43639668"tons of people" are wrong.
>>43639691the way people use words becomes the way the words are used, anon. sorry you have to find out this way.
>>43639696Yeah and the way you and "tons of people" use words isn't the way the rest of the human race uses those words. Transbian = trans lesbian. T4T doesn't have a broad term, since people in T4T relationships always identify as something else.
>>43639355>homosexuals are creepy >"but I have to hide that so I don't upset the "lesbian" sitting there in bikey leathers and no makeup">"In an LGBTQ space of all places"You're literally the antithesis of someone who should be in an LGBTQ space if youre openly homophobic and trans. Imagine having a neo vagina and that not being the biggest part of you that's a cunt :)
>>43634970Lesbians think dicks are gross. Transbians have dicks. Does it make sense now?
>>43634970Chasers have no use for people who won't fuck them
>>43639729>I use quote marks in greentextI don't have a neovagina, and I'm not interested in your bullshit. Fucking tourist.
>>43635011I do! cis people want me bc I look good, I just don't want them.
>>43635026I don't sleep with cis lesbians only other trannies. transbian usually implies t4t. trannies who sleep with cis women usually identify as lesbian
>>43639771Too ez.
>>43639794urgh
>>43639714i think you have been living under a rock if you think this isnt the way people are using and understanding the word transbian
They are creepy. Transbians are just like men. Nothing lesbian about them, just straight male and clearly porn addicted. They are not normal like heterosexual trans women. I think that transbians should try to practice celibacy and not act upon their attraction, if they want to be real women. Even if they do everything right, why would any women feel comfortable or see you as a woman? When you are creepy or thinking about them like straight men are? You're no different from a man and should stay away from women.
>>43640181lol sounds like something somebody who is addicted to t4t porn would say
Puppygirls are gigantic optic nukes for transbians, that said I don't hate anyone as long as they don't bring that shit in public. This goes for anyone
>>43635218I think some us literally go MTFTM to become real life yaoi protagonists (still on E) and I think that's actually really fucking cool
>>43640181what to do if I'm just GAMP and i'm not attracted to cis women, only to androgynous amabs?
>>43640181I have literally had women who knew me pre transition tell me they didn't feel any creepiness from me even when I was doing shit that would be otherwise overtly creepy because they felt I wasn't doing it in a creepy way. I know this wasn't pity affirmation because the two of us remained platonic friends for years until I came out.She did eventually come out to me as pansexual and a futa fetishist. I am also a butch lesbian and would be perfectly happy topping with my dick. Sadly, I moved away and cannot consummate her sordid fantasies.
>>43640181trvke
No one's been posting cute men in here
>>43640224chase
>>43640236>my creepy hentai porn addict friend approved of menot a great character reference
>>43640224Transition and enjoy a beautiful puppygirl life
>>43635011what is with this redefinition of "transbian" as "trans woman who exclusively dates other trans women"transbians date cis women too.
>>43640253I don't have a lot of woman friends. There was another woman I knew since childhood who didn't say that stuff but she was also very approving. I just never tried to flirt with her or pursue her. I did try to flirt with and pursue the other friend to the point where her friends tried to extricate her for her safety, from me. Point is, she didn't find my behavior creepy in the moment. We're literally just girls.
>>43640274You are literally a man telling strangers about how you wish you could penetrate your lady friend with your penis. The only women who can be near you are porn addicts like yourself.
>>43640267thats been the usage for a while
Because everyone here is an incel who doesn't go outside, these are very permaonline opinions. Some trans women are creepy and dysfunctional, some are normal. There are a lot of dysfunctional, weird straight trannies, but no one notices or conflates them as AGP because HSTS are the most insecure and lowkey everyone here is a hon. Almost all trannies and women are AGP, HSTS are incredibly AGP and they're also creepy, autistic, and weird. You're also hons, like half of trannies are straight but all of them don't pass. The sexiest bitches I've ever seen are bi and they'd count as AGP under Blanchardian framework. You pretend they're HSTS if they have boyfriends because you're low IQ and all you do is affirm your own biases and exist in echo chambers, you're not intellectually honest about anything, that's why no one here wants to justify their views. If you think you're above that, I laugh because I don't see you as above that. Like 1% of trannies pass. "AGP" is a spook that comes from ugly women that feel like they will get genocided any minute, but they are retarded. If you actually go outside and meet transbians, some are normal, you just need to look in spaces where you have access to normal people that exist in society. You don't, because you don't go outside, your views are skewed towards discord servers, X, 4chan, reddit. Most normies would think you're not better than AGPs and they're right. Thinking you're a gay man doesn't mean you're more valid as a human being, you're still a faggot, you don't deserve some special privileges, respect or dignity. Most trannies are self-centered and egotistical. Being autistic isn't a personal moral failing, and sperging about people with ailments reflects on your character. It's lowkey a psyop, and I won't give my emotions to retards, I don't want to play these games. You fall for divide & conquer tactics, get emotional all day. How pitiful and self-destructive.
>>43640293To be clear, you think that wanting to have penetrative sex makes someone irredeemably creepy and a danger to women? Just, all men? Why do you feel the need to pathologize us? I have been trying to explain to you that, no, you are - I imagine - a man from the outside looking in and you do not seem to be able to understand that we are in fact women and that this is detectable even pre-transitionLike, if a guy acted the way I did towards me I would obviously spit in his face and tell him to fuck off. But she didn't do that, because she said that she could tell I wasn't being creepy.
>>43640309i know this but why? we already had "t4t". it just makes conversations confusing. i assume people are talking about lesbians but it turns out the whole time they mean specifically and only t4t lesbians
>>43640315Speaking of thinking you're a gay man where do mtftm t4t couples that stay on E but socially detransition into gay boys to live out their yaoi fantasies fit into this framework
>>43640325I don't agree with your self-perception as a woman and I don't believe your friends seriously considered you a woman pre-transition
>>43640249>>43640256I'm already a transbian
>>43634970white troonbians are literally the majority in trans places while acting opressed. you are the white, straight, christian men of trans women. stop giving people even more of a reason to hate you by pretending you are the victim
>>43640341Obviously not but I'm saying they could read that I was not doing these things in the way that a man would do and as a result did not get the "this is a creepy guy and threat to my person" responseI know this because they remained friends with me for years afterwards
>>43640354>you are the white, straight, christian men of trans womenliterally
>>43640347Enjoy your beautiful puppygirl life
>>43640365I don't want to be a puppygirl cause it's le cringe
>>43640358Your friends could be wrong about you. Funny how you had to latch on to women you know personally and use them as character references because you aren't trustworthy on your own.
>>43640358nonny you're being fucked with just stop responding :(
>>43640354No, straight trans women are. Transbians are lesbians and we are oppressed on the basis of homophobia. If you are not one of this can be hard to understand, especially since much of it comes from transphobes - how can they be homophobic to someone they view as a straight man? The answer is that they are basically lying about thinking we're men. That's a slur. They hate us worse than straight trans women - this is actually because we're gay, but they will rationalize it with something like, "we're worse perverts" (because of course, gay people are tarred as being perverted). Transphobes, like JK Rowling, NEVER treat lesbian trans women better than straight trans women. And if you see one of us in media, in a remotely semi-positive light, she will be straight.
>>43640336My personal opinion is that people want to fit others into categories because they are low IQ. The unknown makes retards extremely uncomfortable because they have no power over their personal lives, the only thing that makes them feel safe is being reactionary towards their own constant fear response. Weakness. The entire theme of my life is taking my own power, so I don't give a shit about what other people do, I see them as factors I can't influence. Getting emotional or caring about anything except myself is a waste of emotional energy as well as time, it's unproductive. I only care about self-determinism, everyone else can fuck off. I say forget about the framework, you should never teach academic theory to retards that can't graduate from a good uni. This is why marxists are out of control, this is why white guilt is out of control. You should never make these things accessible, they were historically for elites. Specifically in regards to Blanchard, I wouldn't even entertain it because his methodology was flawed and unscientific.
>>43640375It's a lot of fun.>>43640377How would I prove to you, between anonymous strangers on the internet, that I was a trustworthy person without resorting to character references? We do not have the time or intimacy in this thread to establish an actual rapport, and you are clearly pre-hostile to my existence in the first place.
>>43640394You don't need to prove anything just keep your fetish private
>>43640394>It's a lot of fun.what if i'm in my late 20s, am i too old for that?
>>43640329if i were to guess i would say its probably the result of non-t4t-poly-puppygirl trans lesbians wanting to distance themselves from that group, whose members generally refer to themselves as transbians.i think "transbian" also speaks to that sort of demographic of trans women who identify moreso as "trans women" than "women, who happen to be trans". but thats a whole other conversation.
>>43640407Are you honest-to-god telling me that penetrative sex (PIV) with a cisgender woman is a disgusting and abnormal fetishCan you explain what you think I'm allowed to do in bed? I'm curious what you think "normal" looks like for us. Should I be spending more time crying about my penis? Waa waa I gotta get my cock chopped off?>>43640409Not remotely. It's time to come home, Nona
>>43634970I used to play online games (casual) and by far the worst population, just above cis men, are transbians. Imagine the cattiness and victim complex of a teen girl with the antagonistic personality of a man. A lot of them tend to be overly competitive, crybullies, or still believe being mean = comedy like we're in high school or something. They're also the first ones to hit the racism button out of all other trans people.Straight trans women are way more chill in my experience, but they also don't play as many online video games. >Disclaimer: this is my personal experience and I am not a trans woman.
>>43640448It's not my job to teach you how to not be disgusting in public. I don't have the patience for your games but if you have to know, there are ways to talk about your attractions that aren't so explicit.
>>43640469We're queers, why the fuck should I do this silly prude routine you straggots are so obsessed with? Go bother straight men with it.>>43640465You will find that, incredibly, most of these people are pre-E. If you take E you won't keep acting like this.
>>43640483atp theres no excuse for someone identifying as a woman to be pre-E
>>43640483This is why nobody likes queers
>>43640491I keep trying to tell them this, I was pre-E for like a month after I decided I was gonna be a girl. These people have been like this for years. I just... I don't know why they feel like they can't. Just means you continue becoming more of an ugly moid, and your personality also remains that of an ugly moid
>>43634970Exclusivity cult
>>43640387you are not being oppressed for liking vaginas as an amab. thats the norm believe it or not. you can delude yourself as much as you like but liking women after transitioning doesn't make you more queer or something. if someone was gay before transitioning they faced both homophobia before and transphobia after making them the real victim.the reason that transbians get more hate is because they are the only types of trans women that can actually rape and abuse their partners. you can force yourself on a cis woman as a trans woman but you cant force yourself on a cis man as a trans woman. guess what happens after you have consensual sex with a slightly crazy cis man as a straight trans woman. you get KILLED! lol!! but sure keep trying to tell me how jk rowling calling you weird on twitter is real oppression.
>>43634970 Because they're men and women hate men
>>43640572proceeds to explain why we "get more hate" and then tells us why we're not oppressed for it. ok. JK rowling specifically said that she half accepts her one tranny friend who passes and likes men. And do you really think we're not also just as liable to be killed by men in random acts of violence? Do you think cis women don't also get killed by men in random acts of violence? It's not cause we're trannies, it's cause we're women
>>43640647Transbians are most likely to be raped and murdered by other transbians.
>>43640647>cause we're womenTransbian aren't though
>>43640483>most of these people are pre-EI believe this>>43640500>nobodywho is nobody?
>>43640705It was a shock to me when I came out and started to talk about this to my online trans friends, and discovered most were pre-E.One had been out for like 5 years, and she's, what, 25 now? I can't say much, I'm also 25, but Jesus, I didn't know about myself, what's your excuse? That's years of masculinization on your frame. How can anyone live like this?
>>43640647>proceeds to explain why we "get more hate" and then tells us why we're not oppressed for it. ok. JK rowling specifically said that she half accepts her one tranny friend who passes and likes men.are you GENUINELY retarded? did you read what i wrote? how does whatever jk rowling says affect you in real life, moron? and why are you obsessed with her? the transphobia transbians get just hurts feelings. jk rowling wont kill you after getting a post nut clarity>And do you really think we're not also just as liable to be killed by men in random acts of violence?arent you trying to make a point that youre getting hate because youre a transbian? how would a random act of violence get caused by homophobia? is dying in a car crash because of homophobia? regardless of all of this straight trans women still face this + more (which i listed before)
> transbians are oppressed on the basis of/ because they’re gay> are males attracted to women???Yes they are more oppressed than straight trans women who we’re most likely effeminate gay boys pre transition and now have to deal with cis men post transition who consistently murder and brutalize themBut yes of course the transbians are the oppressed class>”wahhhhhh people think I’m weird and a man for liking women”This is the universal mtf experience btw>>43640360/thread
>>43634970>Theyre just trans women who like women right?Do they like cis girls too? If so I want a cute transbian as my best friend who can also sometimes fuck my gf
>>43634970Transbians Deserve to get boyremoved By Short butch lesbians
>>43641753Always the duc
>>43641824Duc? Like quack quack?
>>43640192Most of that porn is made for chasers. Nobody watches that shit
>>43641831Yes, bunch of quackers
>>43641884I'm a Trans woman who really wants to be with a Trans guy Am I a chaser?
>>43640224It is just AGP and disgusting
>>43641913I think there is a exception for st4t but I think gay t4t is just disgusting. It is okay if you like that type of stuff I just don't like it
>>43641968Well, I think just the opposite I think transgender for transgender is fine because it's still gay and it is LGBT. When you put straight heterosexual women in with transgender women you're making the transgender woman into a man and making her a straight guy which is hideous to me!
>>43641988what are you even talking about
>>43640354Browns literally always act like violent negroids who only know how to pollute and destroy, but it's the le heckin white pee poo who are the most privileged since white pee poo actually invented societies where people can be civilized and not just chimp out 24/7. Yet no matter how much white pee poo endure as their societies become ravaged by the negroid hordes, because they have the idpol equivalent of original sin, they need to shut their mouths and let the apes do all the talking about their oppression. Give me a fucking break, nigger.
>>43642383niggas are annoying but you are not opressed by having them around you. stop watching bbc porn.if you remove the word "white" the argument is still correct and you have nothing left to sperg out on.also this is really funny because you are obviously a troonbian yourself and you are just proving me right because you keep trying to be a victim
>>43639367it does kinda suck ass that a lot of us just like women and aren't interested in bothering cis lesbians or acting like that at all, but we're all painted with the same brush anyway. sorry i'm attracted to women, as if it's my fault
>>43642383transbians are the nigger hordes of white people
>>43642465I don't watch bbc porn, Im just talking from experience from living in brown neighborhoods and what the news/stats show. I don't think I'm more oppressed than others, I think the idpol idea of oppression is retarded. None of us are Jews in the Holocaust, plenty of whites and browns have completely different living experiences. I just think it's fucking stupid idpol garbage to pretend like white people are the most privileged or browns are the most oppressed, and that's what makes me sperg out. I am mostly t4t though, idk if troonbian means t4t or into cisoids.
>>43640309no it hasn't
>>43642270 stupid one, learn to read
>>43642529I haven't seen crime rates say that tranny whites commit way more crime than cis whites, so I don't see how that's true
>>43640267>transbians date cis women too.Sexually assault? Yeah sure. Date? Ahahahahahahahahahahahaa
>>43634970because they're fucking weird and it's painfully obvious they're just autistic men imitating a caricature of an e-girl/whoever they were attracted tothey're obsessed with tits and talk about women and themselves like straight men do, and came up with every terrible stereotype of anime-obsessed, dyed hair, gigahon, puppygirl trans women, and coined terms like 'titty skittles'. these motherfuckers made me rep because i didn't want to be associated with them and they infest every online trans space
>>43642552>Jews in the Holocaustyou don't actually believe in that nonsense, do you, nona?
>>43640315>everything here is permaonline opinions>any sort of tranny can be weird>everyone here is a honyes obviously>hsts are agp, autistic, weirdwhatmostly correct but nobody gaf go back to twitter
>>43640387lol almost all tranny deaths are due to men being embarrassed about their attraction to them. get a grip
>>43640409yes. that was for your teens. act like a lady your age, anything else is unbecoming
>>43642839terminally online transbians genuinely think they have it the worst in this communitywild>>43642383im sorry but this shit is so funny thinking of history>white people are the only one who made civilized societiesabsolutely retarded but ok> societies being ravaged by "negroids"(holy shit go outside)its insane to me that white colonists spent hundreds of years ravaging the world conquering and raping the land around them as much as possible, enslaving/imprisoning the people who lived in civilizations before them through advanced techproceeded to set several countries back centuries in developmentslaughtered millions in the processand ended up getting a leg up advancement wise due to this(most first world countries)and now I in the modern day have to deal with dumbass white trans people whininng about the blacks and the browns and this and that as if any of the racist dumbasses on this board do anything but post on here all dayracists are so deeply unserious its actually insane
like i know its fucking 4chan but god reading some of this shit makes me wanna go take a showerwhat a bunch of fucking losersidk at least this board is entertaining most of the timei truly feel bad for the people who have been on here for years i started using 4chan like a month ago kek
>>43643341teen newfag
>>43643357nta but regardless of how stupid teens(fucking hate kids) are this is infinitely less embarassing than being a grown man on 4chan(like many of the chasers on this shithole board)
>>43634988but incels dating incels when only one of them is trans is ok?
>>43643411imagine hating teens and grown man at the same time
>>43634970Here on /tttt/ everyone hates transbians cuz Blanchtard told them to. When his chaser ass came up with HSTS and AGP he intentionally designed the labels to be stigmatizing, suggesting being a straight woman is the only real way to be trans by labeling "AGP" - being a lesbian - as a paraphilia. He totally dismisses trans men, probably because he thought they were lesbians, and Western normies have always sort of hated lesbians. Normies hate transbians because they think you're being straight with extra steps. The girls just like pussy, so they get all mad at you for having a cock when they literally dont have to fuck you. The men don't like it cuz in their mind, the reason why you transed is to be a gay slut cuz their porn brained, so why aren't you gay and letting any man have their way with you?Imo this is 80% of the normie and /tttt/ phenomenon against trans lesbians.
or maybe its that transbians dont tend to pass very well it seemsthey also have cooties yuck!
