>"Welcome to the Internet, Transvestite"https://x.com/reyookah/status/2056127337666662576#m> award-nominated comic i made about a closeted trans girl suffering through the era of 2000s internet (1/4)
I saw the title card on twitter but i only read it when someone reposted it on /co/
This page is a little anachronistic. the /pol/ board wasnt actually around at that time.
and thats the end of the comic
>>43636373I like it.Beautifully drawn story about the common experience of "pretending to be a girl online" and the cold refuge of anonymity... I like how it shows how cruel the internet is to young trans girls, but how it's still preferable over not being a girl at all.I like how it's stylized too, while she also isn't "stylized" into a caricature. I like how real she is.It doesn't perfectly apply to me (zoomer) but it's still really relatable. Honestly I don't miss those days, but it still makes me nostalgic.
[spoiler]This comic was drawn by an FtM[/spoiler]
>>43636643>Twitter discourseHighkey think half the things i read are glowies baiting. Or ragebaiting contentfarming.It's annoying how people are trying to make a fuss about the author "not understanding trans girl experience because he's a trans guy"Our experiences are not universal. It's not perfect, but it's short and he did good. (~~Especially compared to most other trans guys depicting trans women~~) The trans girl is pre-everything and confused, but the focus isn't on her body it's on her experiences and suffering.I also hate how people are making it about how he drew her. I really don't think this isn't another caricature OC.I've seen a bunch of headcanons. A part of me hopes she enters trannycanon with our other mascots like boymoder. She actually is pretty good representation (compared to like menharachan or bridget... ~~what were millenialweebs thinking~~)
>>43636373Does anyone know the symbolism of the troyan helmet? I think it's fair to say ''because it looks cool'' but also do not like staying in such a shallow level.
>>43636373"if she cannot be a woman, she can at least be abused like one." hit too hard for comfort for how i acted towards predators in high school
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>>43636650Thanks for the trvke. This all seemed fake
>>43636373it was interesting, painful and thoughtful and that's why Twitter hates it
>>43636650I was going to add that. I still think it's great. I am FTM though.>>43636706Personally it just made me think of MMOs. Scrawny guy who plays as a paladin you know. Symbol of masculinity, obscuring the face, too large for the person to wear, it doesn't fit her correctly.>>43636772I assume it's based on the experiences of people he knew. I wish FTMs wrote more about themselves. But living as a man is much more straightforward, the hiccups you face are exclusively because you are perceived as a woman, there's little nuance. The correct people roll their eyes over an FTM lamenting misogyny even though it's trve.
>>43636800mtf here, the trans experience is universal. the only difference is that transwomen face more direct violence lime beatings and such
It's patronizing, judgmental, and transmisogynistic.An 18 year old theyfab's idea of the childhood that all the 30 year old trans women they hate must have had. It's like a devout catholic girl drawing a comic about her atheist high school math teacher's childhood.
>>43636816I'd say it's different. You can't say it's universal when trans women are subject to far greater violence.Of course our differences, as with cis men and women, are greatly overstated. I think in childhood and relationships it's more equal though, and you could argue that interpersonal prejudice is much more hurtful. I have other thoughts on this but as I write and delete my text it's just offtopic and rambly. >>43636840Go back
>>43636427literally unreadable.
>>43636373the problem with writing about an era that you didn't actually experience and that is documented quite poorly is that you won't actually capture anything that mattered about itthe best you can do is to express timeless experiences in terms of your garbled understanding of that era. "if she cannot be a woman, she can at least be abused like one" is a great line but the actual depictions of abuse are much closer to what you'd see on late 2010s internet than the 2000s (which makes sense, because that's probably what the artist had actual experience of)the only reason it's about the 2000s is to add a layer of indirection
>>43637033>the only reason it's about the 2000s is to add a layer of indirectionPretty much. Zoomies feel the need to do this because being terminally online in 2010 is not as interesting (Which is untrue, it's pretty sad)
>>43636899I've been here longer than you.
>>43636650>>43636772>Thanks for the trvke. This all seemed fake>>43636800>I was going to add that. I still think it's great. I am FTM though.I actually posted the thread. I decided to add that info at the end to reduce how it colored people's interpretation of the story.
this isnt what it was like at all. zoomer hands drew this. the whole discord grooming gang thing is a relatively new phenomenon you cant just plant onto the old web.besides who tf was trapping on /pol/??? people forgot that /b/ is the true internet hate machine
There were some decent parts but the fact this was by an 18yo is obvious. The "/pol/" stuff is clearly just COVID era discord grooming with a retro 2000s filter over it with no actual understanding of what things were like back then
>>43637033Yeah the organized grooming and cut sign stuff does seem projected back in time Otherwise I don't think it's as 'transmisogynistic' as people are touting it as, and the broader idea that all depiction of trans women end up being about trauma is kind of a nothingburger imo. It's fine, it's competent, I'm sure it more or less describes someone's experience even if the specific details of the trappings are kind of anachronistic
>>43637742>anachronisticSaw this word many times in the replies to the original tweet. Zoomies moved on from ontological?
>>43637770It's just the appropriate word for what I'm trying to convey... Chronologically disjointed?
>>43637795And you didn't pick up this word within the past 24 hours?It is more accurate to say "out of touch", or even better "revisionist"
>>43637742>Yeah the organized grooming and cut sign stuff does seem projected back in timethe cut sign thing seemed anachronistic to me, but i wouldn't know.i assumed the part about users demanding more stuff was just because she was a known anon on whatever board she posted on in the story.
>>43637805>And you didn't pick up this word within the past 24 hours?>It is more accurate to say "out of touch", or even better "revisionist"no, anachronism is the right word. its more accurate.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronismhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anachronism
>>43636373I got groomed by a chasoid early in my transition, and it feels like he did a lot of damage. This hits way too close to home.
>>43637818Bro I already looked it up. It's just annoying that this is just ontological all over again. You can just say... historically inaccurate.. you don't need to copy what everyone else is already saying just because it's a new vocabulary word.>inb4 anti-intellectualismNo.
>>43636427dropped
>>43637805There's nothing wrong about saying it's anachronistic you weirdo
>>43637848Just because you've never heard the word anachronism before today doesn't mean everyone else is like you. It is not "ontological all over again" or whatever weird bug you have up your ass about how people speak
>>43637848i've known what that word was for a long time.
>>43637805>>43637848anachronistic is a more common word than ontological, you are telling on yourself that you did not know this word before today and feel strangely upset (left out?) that other people had it in their vocabularies already. it would be good to consider the fact that not everyone is like you and it is okay that you do not know words that other people do know. also I liked the comic I would like to see more of this character
this comic would be fixed if it was about 2018 r9k or whatever instead of 2007 /pol/
>>43638413completely agree i sometimes wonder how id have turned out today if i didnt post on r9k in highschool. i wasnt even groomed on reikocord or anything but just being on that board ruined my mind for years and probably still affects me in some facets
>>43636373It’s an interesting read and is generally good I think, although as some people have mentioned some stuff is inaccurate. But it’s quite visceral and is definitely gonna stay with me for a long time as someone who has been through similar things
>2007>pol>cutting instead of sharpie in pooper
>>43638918Cutting was all the rage in the 2000s. It was the über "girl and failed male" stereotype
>>43638918the author is 18 or 19 i think (didnt not live through this period) so its kinda a mishmash of grooming shit from both the late 2000s and early-mid 2010s; hence why pol is mentioned rather than v, b, or r9k.
>>43638918why do pooners love their old interwebs so much. is it a desire for a normal male childhood? since even zoomer men nowadays haven't had that because covid ruined every other boys' life irreparably.
>>43638927Yeh but people on /b/ weren't asking girls to cut themselves they were asking for shoes on head and pens in butts because they were all lolsorandum retards (I was too)>>43638928Yeh its pretty obviously written by a zoomie>>43638936The funny thing is the old interwebs back then were susans place and lauras playground for trannies not 4chan
>>43638936its not even a ftm thing imo larping about late 2000s nerd shit (internet/anime/vidya) has been rampant on IG, twitter, tiktok, basically every zoomer site for a few years now.
>>43636706I think it's a representation of a ponytail. It's a sorta girly sorta generic cut that might give reprieve to a young tranny on one end, while still protecting them (helmet) from the brunt of going full loose-long hair on the other. I never had a ponytail though since fiddling with your hair was gayer than having it long.
>>43636899NTA but another ftm, I'd like to hear more of your thoughts
>>43638948The blue whale game was by far the greater threat lurking on the surface of the internet. People werent subjugated to that via 4chan as lore would say, rather, it was from other rabbit hole blogspots or personal sites that would redirect info to get syphoned out so an extortion could begin. I think for the sake of sanitation to the story, the protagonist had to be aged up to cover up how easily a male born child is left unsupervised compared to his piers.
>>43638308I concede. It bothered me because I kept seeing tweet after tweet of it, that is all. I did not know it was a common enough word. I still think you're gay though.
>>43639340i totally forgot this even existed lol i suppose even at 23yo it was before my time. discord and kik messanger were still the main boogeymen when i was in highschool
>>43636373cynical, alien misery porn that appeals to the mass narcissistism of our new generation of trenders, who are more interested in the poignancy of their victimhood than reality or the beautiful soul of the transsexual experience. the protagonist is the product of a cynical imagination: she is an imitator and a victim, she only attains any legitimacy through her suffering. What happiness and joy would motivate her to do the things that she does is absent. She is simply an ugly alien that is tortured. It's all really unrealistic too. I find it a little depressing. My experience was a bit later on, when I was 10 I started browsing image boards around ~2010. I never visited women's spaces online to creepily emulate them. I just lurked pony boards. I thought of dying and being reborn in a fictional place like equistria a lot. I liked anime a lot and as I entered puberty I remember just breaking down one night and crying my eyes out over for hours over being a boy, I prayed God would fix me and let me wake up as a girl. Female voices made me depressed. I repped and ignored my body until i was 18. I feel a bit disgusted by the depiction of the girl on the comic. It's pornographically morbid and can't be justified by some appeal to lived experience. No sensitivity to the purity and innocence innate to the desire to have been born as the other sex is present. Bleak how much people jerk this larp off
>>43639340I remember the Blue Whale game was spurred into such an overblown sensationalist national issue where I live that schools sent out out-of-touch middle aged ladies to warn kids about it, while kids' youtube slop contentfarms would make shitty videos about "contacting" it. it was ridiculous.
>>43639392yeah i remember my like 75 yo art teacher freaking out over it. was it really ever that big or just a (sadly) typical organized grooming thing that the media caught wind of before these groups became more widespread?
>>43639381I don't think there's any purity or innocence to be derived from it! There is something to be said about wider transsexual legitimacy only stemming from narratives like that, but that is what it is at its core, it's noble suffering at best.
>>43639410idk about you, but I'm a thirdworlder and it was pretty common to see older people getting worked up over anything foreign/western. They even did it with Pokemon. It was probably only a few cases, and I imagine a lot of them were just child suicides that shitty parents wanted to give an explanation for, that weren't just "I fucked my kid up so badly they killed themselves", and so a scary digital bogeyman was perfect for them to rally against instead of tackling their retarded traditionalist positions.
>>43639473oh im canadian lol but i imagine the thought process was similar. i think we were the first gen of kids to have unrestricted internet through cellphones and also ipod touches if u had those.i think parents kinda let thar slide for a few years and once news hit of internet predators being on phones (as if predators online was a new concept) there was a massive overcorrection and sensitivity around the topic
>>43639453>I don't think there's any purity or innocence to be derived from it!It is innocent in that it proceeds solely from within the thing. Transexuality is not something that is done to an alien, or something that it happens upon and decides to become. Transexualism begins inside the transexual and blossoms naturally from it. It is suffering but it is pure and innocent. The comic depicts transexuality always as something strange and alien to the transexual, the transexual is always an alien, as if it were contaminated by transexuality into perverse or unusual behaviors. Transexuality emerges as the capricious enjoyment of the feminine substance, found in the wild: the transexual is drawn to it, but confused by it as well. The germ of transexuality is in reality something that begins entirely and organically within the transexual: the painful yearning to be the opposite sex. Oh well! What can you say. Perhaps the comic simply, was never meant to be about this "essential" aspect of transexuality. A person always indicts themselves with their intentions: our intentions simply were to cut like scalpel from the imagined transexual her most ugly, most morbid, most cynical parts, to enjoy like the refined gastronome enjoys truly ugly and twisted parts of an animal in efforts to call itself a true connoisseur. It's all very ugly, but it's an ugliness that people today love. Ugliness bites the eye but beauty bites the heart, so one is easier to look upon than the other, and lies are easier to believe than truths, because they are made to be believed. That's why so many "gullible retards" find this comic so believable that they even imagine shades of their own lives through it :-) showing one's ugly parts is always easy, they are ugly a priori, so there's nothing to fear, about maybe being beautiful, maybe being ugly. Oh, who cares. It's all just very gross and morbid and alienating. Go ahead, call me pretentious if you like.
>>43636377It's crazy to me how looking at gore is just normalized in some circles. That's a entire person's life, snuffed out in an instant. To turn it into your entertainment is some kind of grave sin to me. Their entire life, your minor object of interest forgotten in a few minutes. Makes it hard to sympathize with the protagonist. Of course, the normalization of gore is not unique to internet circles. In history classes it's common to show students images of the dead and dying, and they just aren't really expected to react in any way. It's unholy. Medical articles and classes, too. I was reading about strokes on wikipedia earlier today and was subjected to a slice of someone's brain. >>43636457Take wrestling like your brother suggests and next time your dad comes in to you painting your nails beat HIM.>>43636501In a fight to the death, Ripley might be able to win against his dad. Younger people are better at physical activity, most people are nearly their maximum height at 16 so size isn't an issue, and Ripley's habit of looking at gore would have the effect of desensitization to violence. Ripley just needs a little courage and tenacity. I've learned the gentle art of murder from WW2 combat manuals myself for similar reasons. The justice system is not kind to children who kill their own parents, however, despite most doing it out of necessity due to extreme abuse.
>>43639381a man drew this of cource its pornographically morbid
>>43639499a ftm drew this of course he would draw her being contaminated by femininity he wanted the boy childhood
>>43639498it's kinda funny the old trads were getting worked up over the spooky internet bogeyman, while the only kid considering suicide was the obvious repping troonlet they'd have no sympathy for.
>>43639510>a manAs if. It doesn't soulpass. This isn't the average experience of a trans woman at all. I don't understand why poons are obsessed with taking the side or seeing through the eyes of a trans woman or conducting character studies about her. Troons don't do this, they never try to see through the eyes of a trans man. They care more about their own thing.
>>43638936It's because poons are attracted to incel and nerd culture and try to imitate/skinwalk/become the object of attraction like troons try to become the goth girl who broke their heart in hs
Another ftm wishing she was mtf skinwalk session
>>43636899>I'd say it's differentMtf here I think that the differences between individual people are way more significant than the differences between sex. Your personal factors just matter way more: wealth, race, passability. etc
Well I read it and it reads like someone who is not a millennial and not a trans woman / report wrote it. And as someone who used 4chan at that time, no one would ask for all that gross shit. They would ask for sharpie in the pooper and then ask you to write memes on your body. The "grrrr I hate crossdressers" thing wasnt really a thing either. "Traps" were considered a fun novelty at the time. The culture war wasnt there yet
>>43640111ftms dont want to be men they want to be mtfs
its ahistorical, disgusting, and unsympathetic. i don't get the idea that the author sees trannies as more than disturbed men. and it says nothing more than that depiction because of the flagrant inaccuracies its littered with.
>>43636373>TF2Jesus, that game was great. Formative years of late high school and all that. Hours of staying up late watching videos on techniques for ambushing people as Pyro, crashing the party as Soldier, and placing sticky bombs on ceilings because people don't look up, even with an enemy Demo. I still have my Orange Box box, and the first plushie I got to rebuild my collection was an OG Companion Cube from 2009; my dad asked if I was gay because I was so excited to get it...
>>43640397oh, but the comic was weird and gross, why are all the artsy trannies degens? I need to figure out how to ressurect my creative side
>>43636816'transwoman' is a dogwhistle, put a space between trans and woman not to set off any alarms btw.>whythe indomitable cissoid spirit will sacrifice everything they have in their goal to find any tiny method of being transphobic
>>43640323i also distinctly remember everyone was more open and egalitarian, even the internet rule of "there are no girls on the internet" wasn't a literal fact, but a way to ensure everyone was treated equally by automatically assuming everyone, even people who contextually appeared to be women, were actually guys, which was more often than not the case.
>>43640290how does race actually matter beyond how it factors into class etc. like for real
>>43640385Thanks. I really appreciate someone's point of view pointing out the fetishization of a minor being strawmanned as wanting to see what was normalized on youtube when it first started. The j files also mentioned some girl running away from aol/netzero/juno modem free trial cds that targeted households w children. The protagonist of this story is vilified by the end of the story, pinholing the viewer into believing he's an adult responsible for his own actions when its representing an abusive father and a blind sighted mother. The aritst never wanted to represent any good standing relationship with adults for the protagonist. The more it processes through my head, the worse it seems that the artist wants to demonize mtf experiences.
>>43639508>It's crazy to me how looking at gore is just normalized in some circles. That's a entire person's life, snuffed out in an instant. To turn it into your entertainment is some kind of grave sin to me. Their entire life, your minor object of interest forgotten in a few minutes. Makes it hard to sympathize with the protagonist. >>Of course, the normalization of gore is not unique to internet circles. In history classes it's common to show students images of the dead and dying, and they just aren't really expected to react in any way. It's unholy. Medical articles and classes, too. I was reading about strokes on wikipedia earlier today and was subjected to a slice of someone's brain.you just sound sheltered lmao nothing to do with unholiness, you're condescendingly explaining what is much more familiar to them and novel to you. are you serious? what do you think the *point* is? nobody lacks empathy more than moralfags. that irrelevant second paragraph shouldve illustrated that maybe aggressive aversion to gore or blood is really nothing "holy".>Take wrestling like your brother suggests and next time your dad comes in to you painting your nails beat HIM.actually fucking go back to facebook you soulless shithead damn. shut your trap before you say that shit to a real person
The artstyle is pretty but it definitely could be written better to accurately represent the time period and the transfem experience on the Internet. At first it felt like it was created by a TERF. I think I got that vibe from how grotesquely the trans experience here is presented. I can only relate to how awkward certain things feel. For example how you're made to feel pressured into presenting as masculine by the people around you that are unaware of your actual feelings. The rest feels more gruesome and unreal. I pity those who had something like this happen to them. I also pity those who think that this is an avarage thing for trans women that grew up on the Internet. These are just my initial thoughts after finishing the comic.
>>43640323Oh and to continue my nitpicks, my parents were not on the internet in 2007. They were not using Myspace. There was no way for you to contact my parents online and send them pics of me. I, like most people, didn't even use my government name on Myspace. This was a big flag that a zoomer whose formative social media was Facebook and twitter wrote this.
>>43636373i'm a late zoomzoom but even i'm not one iota convinced of this being even remotely accurate. even ignoring the hacker known as 4chan level perspective of this site. at least learn some basic history though, thinking that 4chan was always an altright politicized shithole is really funny>>43636706i have seen hundreds of shit like this it's only to feign esotericism more than it bears meaning>>43639499>>43639381this, really well said>>43640385real, it's incredibly forgettable>>43639508kill yourself
>>43636373I'm not mtf but this feels a little distasteful. Otherwise the art is very nice. I love your style, hopefully you post more queer comics here.>>43640437>be poor around poor white people>still get mistreated by those people>it's permissible or justified by others around you despite them also being poorBasically getting ostracized in your own cities and social classes
Fucking pooners I swear
It's strange that this funhouse-mirror view of the transfem internet experience pre like 2016 will probably become the primary way it's remembered and written into posterity. Like part of the issue here is that if you're transfem and speak up about the incongruities and oversimplifications present in so much of this stuff you'll instantly alert your likely-queer surroundings to the fact that you were 'socialized' in these spaces, recently enough that you haven't had the opportunity to quietly overwrite your memory of such. Which is a target on your back. How the historicization of low-moderation online communities is handled, in four words: never trust primary sources!You could expand everything I said to like "the autistic amab internet experience" simpliciter and it would still hold, though that's a larger group and therefore probably higher-variance.
>>43640912I've learnt that the worst thing you can do around other queers is to admit to being in that internet culture. You aren't gonna explain to people that /a/ isn't the same as /pol/
>>43640968It's been easier to explain now that we know that /pol/ itself was an Epstein funded psyop.
>>43640671>Basically getting ostracized in your own cities and social classesyeah that's fair, i understood it differently under context. mb>I'm not mtf but this feels a little distastefulyou're right to feel that way! it's not written by an mtf, it's written by someone who never used 4chan and never interacted with 2000s internet. it is really distasteful in the transmisogynistic sense>>43640912history is never written correctly tbhon, and anything radical will never be maintained by the mainstream. based post. i'm happy that a lot of this thread is going against the usual of this board and actually producing good takes and not being afraid to write more than 12 words so that a point can actually be made (and actually being literate enough to do so). >>43640385real. it's so superficially american with gore for shock value, like nothing but current america would try to blame a teenager for her circumstancesspeaking on trans women like this (like it's done all too commonly) should be much much more condemned, reacted to for what it is, a political caricaturization with too little depth or quality to hope at being anything more. and it isn't seen that way solely b/c of transphobia
>>43636373to be honest i did not care for iti could talk more about the anachronisms and the way it mischaracterises both the internet at that time and the experience of pretending to be a girl on it but what would be the point
>>43640430>'transwoman' is a dogwhistle, put a space between trans and woman not to set off any alarms btw.>>why>the indomitable cissoid spirit will sacrifice everything they have in their goal to find any tiny method of being transphobicthe thing is that there are plenty of allies and transgender people who will type 'transman' or 'transwoman' as one word by accident. some people might try to use it maliciously, but if your dogwhistle is easy enough to type by accident when typing the right word there's going to be a lot of false positives.
>>43636373Has anyone ever really analyzed why poons are so attached to the image of the victimized reppers/crossies/hons? I have some of the same impulses as a theyfab myself, and the only explanation I can really come up with is that it's just a bizarre mix of transmisogyny, and obsessive attachment to effeminate male figures, and a dearth of cultural knowledge of closeted ftms who don't fit the stereotypical obvious butch dyke mold.
This is the worst shit I've ever read. None of the historical references are accurate. The character design is horrible and the narration has the tone and subtlety of a steel bar falling from the roof. I'm convinced that some day very soon we will treat this art and writing style, which has already been assimilated by advertisers, with the same disdain as doggo memes.You can tell it's a blatant ripoff of internet murder revenge fantasy too, which is a better comic, if you can still find it. Highly recommend you read it instead.
>>43636659I definitely agree that spartan helmet character should replace menhara-chan in the next culture wave
Wow this is fucking retarded, I wonder why>Looks at bioThat explains it. 18 year old zoomie girl who I guarantee has never even sniffed a vial of T making this shit
>>43636373As someone who transitioned shortly after when this comic is set and from my cis friends experiences they'd ask for nudes and you'd share cause you liked the attention it wasn't dedicated grooming and no one tried to pull shit like the ending at least on any of us. They were very vulgar and Its super embaressing to have shared nudes like this
This sucks ass
>>43641294Oh wow this girl wants to be me as a teenager so badly it's almost flattering
its tboy slop
>>43641705Excuse you, it's actually called birthday boy slop
The trender woman's desire to be mtf must be studied for science
I understand it but I cannot relate
>>43636373>look at account>it's all AAPslop and tf2 obsessionshow has no one pointed this out yet. ftms try not to be transmisogynistic challenge (impossible). this is literally the author's thinly veiled fetish, they couldn't even avoid injecting tf2 into it
>>43641294Oh, they're not even trying to make a good faith comic.
>>43642590>Expecting good faith trans women representation from afabsLmao
>>43641294>18It makes so much sense now why the whole thing is just agony and sadness lol
>>43636373This just made me miserable reading it.>>43642544Kek. That's actually amazing. She's so perverted, she fetishizes other perverts.
>>43643060Sis you don't have to use it as an excuse call them a girl like calm down
>>43643089>"THEIR PRONOUNS ARE HE/HIM"Are you aware how stupid you look?
>>43643161Calm down it's not killing you babe
Why does this read like a afab who got groomed in discord in 2020>>43641294Oh
>>43636501I dont respect pronouns of anyone that looks at gore for fun. Thats male behaviour.
>>43636373Why not just make a ftm comic? It would have been more fitting for you.
>>43641216As a poon I never think about mtfs unless it's Ayesha Erotica
>>43636373being mtf is so much more difficult and painful than being ftm and despite their best efforts the comic feels external and distant to our pain
>>43643704Make your own comic
>>43643763I already have a real job
>>43636373>bestgore>red 40>tf2
>>43643787You can't work and make a comic...?
>>43636373excusing the fact its all over the place chronologically:-imo they didn't capture the essence of the era, of being in suchit's very rare for someone to be able to without first-hand experience>>43639381>more interested in the poignancy of their victimhood than realitythis basically, more interested in the artsy fartsy presentation to the point it seems self obsessed, same vibe as an overly prosodic zineyou described it very well but its not reddit to use line breaks y'know
>>43643807no, i don't have the time to cultivate the technical artistic skills required to render what i think would be a proper representation of the pain i have felt in my transition. if your only response to criticism of art is 'why don't you do better then' you are ontologically retarded. i can admit that i am not nearly as mechanically skilled as this artist is but the creative choices and storytelling are suspect
>>43643988>Anon can't write, draw, animate, or tell a story in any waywow....
>>43643999right because Comics are "written" or "animated"?
I hate zoomers and afabs so fucking much
>>43644029you could animate a comic after writing the story and sequences
>>43639499I'm a pretentious fuck too but why can't you write your thoughts in plain english? This is just word salad.
>>43636377Nostalgiaslop with no value from the time period achieved beyond 40 year olds going "I remember TF2!!!!"
>>43636373funny seeing trans man get mad at us for talking about our experiences with womanhood saying that we don't know about it and claiming that just because they were born and raised as a girl/woman he has more authority and knows more what it "feels like" to be a woman than a trans woman, and at the same time makes comics abt trans womanhood, dictate what trans woman should do with their womanhood as if they're the ultimate experts on the subject. you're not a woman anymore stop acting like you own it!
thanks lil poon. Glad to see what you think of us
>>43645963she is pre transition you disingenuous fuck, this is 100% in line with the massive amounts of mtf dysphoria art
>>43646082Transition doesn't shrink your hands. she decided to draw those ugly man hands for a reason.
>>43636659>>43641290ah yes lets replace iconic characters with a dumb character made by a poon in a distorted idea of trans womanhood
>>43646097you aren't really trans if you don't understand dysphoria art of warped self perception, glowie
>>43647314An 18 year old trender doesn't understand mtf dysphoria and never will
>>43647329okay so you are just a retard
>>43647447yeah I'm retarded for thinking you need to be mtf to understand mtf gender dysphoria
>>43647454you were literally triggered by it, that shows it knows exactly what traits you are upset by
>>43647466>you don't like this troonjak that meen sharty teens understand dysphoriaFuck off retard
>>43636373remy remains undefeated when it comes to afabs actually understanding transwomen
>>43647484me thinks the lady doth protest too much
>>43649270ikea telling you to not get bottom surgery
>>43636403>2007>dialup half life
>>43639381Exactly my thoughts. I get that nobody's experience is the same but this one feels like straight up fetishization. One can't even call it out because there are hordes of "Armin | he/him" guarding it like it's worthy of a pulitzer. This is a caricature of a trans woman in both the artistic and literary sense. A gross, exagerated (don't forget the HAIRY arms and GIANT hands!!! so heccin' valid and grungey!!1). It all feels so alien and weird, and not even for a good reason. This is like, HBO's Euphoria levels of shitty transfem portrayal. These images are just regurgitating the same fucking misery story of the ogrishly ugly tranny that has to hide and treats her whole identity as a fetish. The character herself is serving both men in the comic and the author as the protagonist of his misery porn. Why aren't there more stories of a hopeful tranny? Stories about trans women who are not limited to their bodies and how their lives are rotten? Is happiness just too fucking boring for he/theys? I swear trans men make a big fucking effort to make trans women look as deplorable as possible.It makes sense, but in a twisted, fetishistic way that only tender queers like. People would rather draw a pseudo buffalo bill than a happy *actually* trans woman.
>>43636373As a zoomer it's frustrating reading about millennial stories about their youth. Imagine having all that privilege and having basically no significant scientific or artistic accomplishments to show for it.
>>43643988only redditors who don't take anything seriously respond to shit like that. ur right. it sucks b/c it wholly disrespects any merits the medium might have, non-left wing americans are just raised on postmodernism. technique is worthless without the talent to use it and ppl who think otherwise are self-reporting
>>43649433everything is either misery porn or happy epic wish fulfillment and it is so fucking hard to find a compromisebut lowkey her and legs are hairy bc its shown that her parents disaprove of their femininity so she cant shave and show skin. or maybe im trying too hard to read it idk
>>43649433>>43647466>>43636659>>43644686it's porn with a hint of self-aggrandizationthe artist is AAP and only makes semi-thirsty art of tf2. the comic's style is not a choice, the artist just doesn't know how not to draw like a thirsty gaydenthis is very obviously a caricature, because it lacks all substance or depth to be anything past that. it literally lacks any good writing or pacing to be noteworthy or memorable. the incessant need to depict ripley as a hulking skulky mancreature every single frame poorly substituted by the obtuse and pointless helmet is incredibly obvious even to random cis people>>43644557that is english, illiteracy-kun
>>43650199also literally noone responding to the shit is mtfits all he/him gender thingamabobs (in their own words) obsessing over this and drawing fanart
is it really for us? it's sympathy slop for normies, and imposter syndrome fuel for closeted trans women, but a young and earnest trans guy made it so i can't be too mean, although i'm definitely not a fan of the word "transvestite" being used, which implies that we're just interchangeable with femboys, and crossdressers, and that's really not an implication anyone needs right now
>>43650287>sympathy slopthere is nothing sympathetic about this depiction it would make any normie who stumbles into it think trannies are fucking disturbed disgusting freaks that at best only exist because of 'grooming'
>>43650296you're right, i haven't really self harmed like that, i only had like 2 short encounters with older men in video games, one of which i cleverly escaped in character
>>43650287>imposter syndrome fuel for closeted trans womenkinda real as fuck, i feel like all trauma has a karmic guarantee to come with people giving you imposter syndrome for trauma so you can never talk about italso imo its just the authors barely disguised fetish, if only in part it shares thinking w/ theyfabs that draw mtfs as the biggest ugliest mancreatures
>>43636519why did he make her lowkey look like a rome chud
>south korean zoomer afab yeah, that fits
