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I don't understand how can a straight man could date a trans woman who still retains a penis. You're fucking an ass with a cock and balls attached to it. And even some of you give it a succ. You're bisexual at the very least. Straight men should have trouble getting up in that scenario or being disgusted in some level by you.

>t.gay
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I just ignore it at all costs
makes her feel more valid too
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>>43640715
What if i am not aroused by the cock and feel neutral towards it but would feel disgust if the tranny had a rotting axe wound?
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>>43640715
The dick is more feminine than a vagina, and makes it cuter
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why do you care?
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>>43640756
how does this make any sense, penises are ugly as fuck
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>>43640725
You can't "ignore" that. Attraction doesn't work that way.

>>43640748
>prefers cock over neopussy
Just say you're gay, boy.

>>43640756
Another gay boy.

>>43640759
Why do you care so much about the "straight" label? Not being straight doesn't make you less of a man.
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>>43640779
Feminized ones are hairless, limp and soft, bonus if impotent with shrunken balls
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will this debate ever end
what does it matter, it's just terminology
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>>43640782
Putting your dick into an open wound that smells like decomposition is gayer than rubbing your big straight cock against tiny feminine penis
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>>43640782
tf are u talking about, i dont care about any of this shit. NOBODY thats got anything going on cares about any of this shit. OMGGGGG HOW COULD U LIKE X AND NOT BE GAY OMG OMG OMG, and if ur gay? what happens? apocalypse? cancer diagnosis? universe ending? if ur straight and like pre op trans girls literally nobody except a bunch of insecure little faggots care. if ur gay and like pre op trans girls, again, why care. i genuinely feel like if u want to live a happy life u could see a gay man literally lez out with a fucking hyperfemme cis woman and then tell you "i still worship buff dude cock btw" and you'd be like "ok" because...... like why give a fuck LMAO
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>>43640715
Think of it like this. Straight guy dates a big buff burly man with a fully grown beard and hair all over, he's actively attracted to a big buff burly man with hair all over, BUT that man has a vagina. Does that make it straight? Of course not because look at who's attached to, it's a whole ass man with a beard and muscles bigger than yours you're attracted to a man that's gay as fuck.
And inversely. If a gay guy dates a trans woman, with tits, a snatched waist, wide hips, feminine figure, big boobs, feminine voice, etc... BUT she's got a penis, does that mean it's still a gay relationship? of course not it's a whole ass fucking woman, the guy who only likes men is attracted to just a regular woman but she's got a dick.
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>>43640796
>>43640803
>t.insecure gay boys
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>>43640834
If you like trans people you are bisexual to some level.
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>>43640847
That's not how that works
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>>43640786
Its not a debate for 99% people
Even on /gif tranny threads are all grouped with twinks/femboy and sissies while women threads are just cis f

Some people are so scared to let go of straight label
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>>43640834
Liking trans people of any kind is bisexual except trans twink ftms, thats ok for straight men
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>>43640715
because you are fixated on the genitals, and that is why the more specific term geniphile exists.
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sorry I meant to type gynophile lol
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>>43641056
Thats just bisexual with a type
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>>43641027
not the wrost mental illness to have if you look around
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>>43641069
Ok, but that's already more clearly defined with that that word lol.
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>>43640834
Some people say that only genitals matter. This is just going to the other extreme and saying everything BUT the genitals matter. You one sided extremists are two sides of the same coin, unwilling to consider bisexuality as a valid alternative because of your internalized biphobia.
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I like women, Im attracted to some male features so yea
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>>43641082
I like fem men and tomboy girls, should I make a word describing my sexuality? Lol
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>>43641139
yeah that's called bisexual because you don't have a consistency with the masc/fem of the person, and the genitals don't match.
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>>43641149
Gynephilic is just all women and feminine men, its bisexual. By logic these gynephiles should hate tomboys for being masculine but they never do
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>>43640715
I am a straight man and I thoroughly enjoy slapping my cock against my transgender girlfriends ballsack.
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>>43641153
No you are just retarded and can't understand specificity.
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>>43641158
Whats gynephilic about a tomboy with a short hair who dresses in boys clothing
By femininity = straight masculinity = gay logic, liking this girl is gay homosexual for men since she is masculine
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>>43641172
Tomboys aren't feminine but they aren't very masculine either
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>>43641188
They are masculine in the same way femboys are feminine, some are even on t

Women cannot naturally look like hulk hogan so female masculinity is always something like looking like twink gay boy
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>>43641201
You're thinking of an extreme, most tomboys are still somewhat girly with a couple of boyish interests
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for me most people are bisexal and people lie to themselves about being straight bc society, but ignoring that:

You don't need to be attracted by each single characteristic of someone to feel horny towards them, and they can have some characteristics that don't match their sex, like tall women, twinks and a tranny. Being attracted to them besides those characteristics is possible and doesn't imply bisexuality, but being attracted towards those characteristics does.

I'm attracted to twinks taller than me besides their femininity, and that's straight because I like their masc features and want them to fuck me. I'm also attracted to twinks shorter than me, and thats bisexual because I'd like to peg them and hear their androgynous moans.

If a guy likes a tranny besides her cock, he's straight, if he wants a cis woman to peg him, he's bisexual.
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>>43640715
>I don't understand how can a straight man could date a trans woman
they can't
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>>43641210
And most femboys ares still pretty manly (in their looks and personality), same goes for trans women too actually. So your point?
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>>43641298
>personality
>in VISUAL attraction
Are you stupid?
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>>43640715
Who this?
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trans women and chasers are both gay men with internalized homophobia
there are no men who happen to look like women but have penises, you are just gay but can't accept it
men dating gay men who wear costumes makes them feel less ashamed about being gay
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>>43640748
>rotting axe wound

This is a meme
.
No one was any real intelligence could take it seriously.
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>>43641027
You have to remember that acknowledging your own tolerance or enjoyment of an AMaB--the skeletal ratios, the lack or presence of certain genitals, the behavior--is a death sentence.

Men have been threatened to self-ID as straight in the same way a HSTS has felt compelled to call herself a "straight" "woman".

This theater is so important that endless copes are made to self-preserve that socially preferable identity.
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>>43641085
Yes the genitals don't matter, cope chuddy. Got a trans gf and I'm still a lesbian no matter how much you cope and impose bisexuality onto me. I only like women thus i have a trans gf sorry chuddy I'm a lesbian even if you whine about biphobia
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>>43641371
You're literally female and are bi / autosexual by default
That's why genitals or other sexed traits don't matter to you

You are female and use context over "YES" and "ABSOLUTELY NOT" visual cues
You use "vibe" and "ooooo not rapey!! very cute and demure!"
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She bad asf.
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>>43641344

No they're not. They're just people who have a different sexual attraction. There are people who like feminine males with long hair and not attracted to masculine males with short hair or bald heads. I've always been attracted to guys but I could never sleep with a guy with a bald head. The thought of it makes me sick
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>>43641381
I don't understand visual excitement either. I don't understand why men are attracted to women's breasts. They don't look disgusting to me but they just don't look sexually appealing to me.
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>>43641381
LMAO NOTICE HOW THE MISOGYNY COMES OUT IMMEDIATELY, THE JOKE WRITES ITSELF ISTG
This is the level of my opponents on this oh my god lmfao this is so funny
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>>43641406
What part of what I said is woman-hate?
Can you stop being defensive and understand that your biology is different, and through observation of female/male behavior en masse, it's kind of obvious females do NOT use the same circuits or just lack the circuits males use?
This isn't misogyny.
You're just cornered

Do not try to argue through incredulity like some MAGAt
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>>43640715
A straight man who doesn't like penis wouldn't spend all that time making this post.
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>>43641420
>You're literally female and are bi / autosexual by default
>You are female and use context over "YES" and "ABSOLUTELY NOT" visual cues
You use "vibe" and "ooooo not rapey!! very cute and demure!"
>I'm not being misogynistic!!!!
Uhuh right.
My biology is different to WHO? What point are you even trying to make here and what source do you have to back it up other than "I've seen it! I understand everything trust me I don't need research!"
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>>43641488
Whoops forgot the > on the fourth quote
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>43640759
Autistic people need to fit everything into categories or their world implodes
>>43640715
It's okay to be bi
It's okay to let people believe whatever they want
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>>43641579
>categories are like bad because I want to call myself whatever makes me feel the best

No
We probably shouldn't do this
Then Trump is the best president the country has ever seen, because he identifies as that
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>>43640715
It looks like straight men don't date trans women? Wow this anon just discovered warm water
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>>43641335
Tomboys are mascluline visually? Soo?
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>>43641369
If you live on western world you are fine..most men don't want to come out as bi cause their end goal was always to end up with a cis female and they find gay men icky
But pretty much nobody gets killed for being gay, you can even marry a man and have kids with him
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>>43640796
people genuinely think they just slice you open once and send you home with vaginoplastys
i dont really get the slander considering how advanced they are
>hurr durr but you need to dilate
so fucking what? just have sex
but yes i agree OP, chasers are gay as fuck
liking a trans woman in abstract is straight but if youre chasing after the male genitals then yeah somethings going on
having sex with a trans woman with srs is 100% capital S straight tho so
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>>43643577
What about liking a trans woman with male genitals in abstract? Why should I give up on a person who would fit my ideal in pretty much every single regard except for that one part? It's not like she can get pregnant after SRS either
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>>43642146
So if I come out as bi then my only option are men? Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>43643687
if youre a man and have male genitals(cock and balls) running through your mind
i cant decide anyones sexuality for them but
you know
nothing wrong with being bi
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>>43640715
Yes, it's bi. 100%. I think it's hot, but from the stuff I'm reading here, most of the trannies can't even get a boner or cum.

I think I have overcome my internalized homophobia and fuck twinks. Or find the mythical agamp tranny, without bottom dysphoria and a cute cock, able to cum when I fuck her prostate.
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>>43643929
It's not like I have cocks running through my head all the time
More like I just don't care that much, and think someone who's all womanly and feminine but has a penis makes for a fun novelty
I don't really care if that makes me bi or not, I don't use the label because it could make people think I'm into masculine men and I'd rather not have that



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