Feminists:>men bad, men evil, men all rapistsMen:>ok I’ll stop being a man and be a woman insteadFeminists:>nooooooIs feminism the ultimate self own?
both feminism and transgenderism are misandrist sadistic political movements designed to inflict pain and suffering upon menthey have zero legitimacy and all men would be happier if they both faded away entirely >andrea dworkin>most obvious unsatisfied fat lesbian of all time>could not pull hot women due to being ugly and fat>blamed men>this is supposed to be feminismcringe!
>>43640882Radical feminism*Regular feminism is great
>>43640897damn then catch me being the biggest transgenderist feminist to ever exist LOLfeminists: can women not be treated like rapemeat?men (apparently): THIS IS THE PEAK OF SADISM AND TORTURE TOWARDS LE MOIDSSSSS OMFGGGGGpls get a hobby and go talk to people
>>43640900women are treated far, far better than they deserve given their constant abuse and belittling behavior towards men, especially feminine men or anyone who doesn't conform strictly to gender roleswomen should be set on fire and burned alive for their constant crimes against humanitywomen do NOTHING but abuse men all day
>men bad, men evil, men all rapiststrue>i also hate trannies or some other shit you made upnot feministwomen are more pro-tranny on average btw
It’s just because radfems are retarded. It’s essentially fascism for girls, being obsessed with your own group’s superiority and how evil and bad those outside are. The difference is of course that unlike specific ethnic groups or nationalities, radfems have essentially no way to build a power base that isn’t relativistic to the value men perceive them as having, they will never achieve anything other than being annoying and making things harder for other people
>>43640917>women are more pro-tranny on average btwwell yeah, women want loser men castrated
>>43640923hot, feminism now
dworkin wasnt even transphobic, however she did write a book about how israel is great and women deserve their own israel so in the trash she goes
>>43640911men do nothing all day but act like sex and cumming is their gender-specific oxygen. sorry lol, women can suck sometimes but "abusing men all day" is the projection to end all projections. if ur mom is being homophobic or some shit towards you and thats why ur tweaking like a moron, just rob her and run away and go live on your own lol
>>43640930Dowrkin endorsed a book called The Transsexual Empire: The Making of the She-MaleI haven't read the book but the title alone seems to invoke transphobic tropes
>>43640942oh wow ok i didnt know that lol doubletrash
>>43640937men built the civilization and internet you use and enjoyno menno internetwomen are far too stupid to maintain the internet
Man here. I have a lot of bones to pick with feminism and feminazis but TERF "feminism" is almost entirely a manufactured psyop by people who, much like me, would gladly see women in manacles and locked in cages. Not saying there aren't genuine feminists who hate MTFs, but as a movement you're looking at an astorturf
>>43640930>>43640942>>43640944Dworkin is a lolcow from before the word lolcow existed, she's only taken seriously insofar as she said crazy shit in an era where that particular brand of crazy shit was not especially common
>>43640955*pets you on the head*
>>43640955women are far more privileged than men arethe myth of women as victim class is used to reinforce misandry and the matriarchytrans women are men pretending to be women to steal female privilege
>>43640971Thank you>>43640976I agree with most of that but it's more like restorative justice. The fact that "believe all women" got as far as it did is a sign that things have gone horribly off the rails. No one should be able to make outrageous allegations against another person and have those allegations accepted without some reasonable due diligence being done
>>43640898Regulars pave the road for radfems
>>43640993I think it's not even about securing a conviction, it's about destroying their reputation. Even if a man is never convicted of a crime, even just an accusation of sexual assault or rape can be enough to ruin his marriage or career. Women use the concept of a reputation to keep men in line like cattle. Women use mind control to keep men docile and we don't talk about that much.It's not restorative justice to fucking castrate men and make them even more submissive towards women on the grounds that if they do so they can have a slice of that female privilege cake. Justice is ending the matriarchy and not taking women seriously anymore. They aren't serious people and should be ignored and shunned. I should be able to walk down a street and see at least a dozen women crying and starving, begging for food, and nobody helping them because women are too stupid to feed themselves, and finally, men will stop protecting them from their own idiocy.
>>43641008That's what I mean though. Of course feminists will throw around claims like only 1% of rapists get "punished" but they can just call a guy "creepy" and his standing in the community is immediately destroyed, no questions asked
>>43641023By "rapist" they often mean "an ugly guy dared to look at me"
>>43641008>even just an accusation of sexual assault or rape can be enough to ruin his marriage or careerThats not true. Most men continue their lives just fine cause other men got their back..some looksmaxxer just got caught buying child porn and moids are making campaing for him saying cp is not that bad. Men rarely get anything affecting them even when they are guiltyI hate men.
>>43640882Men cannot become women
>>43641008>even just an accusation of sexual assault or rape can be enough to ruin his marriage or careerHow is Trump both married and president of the USA then?
>>43641140>How is Trump both married and president of the USA then?because he's ethnically germanic and obama pissed enough people off being a friendly nigger that people were willing to vote for anyone even vaguely pro-white after that mess
>>43641140Chris brown still going strong etc so many peopleIn my country a group of men gangraped a 14 year old at one point, made a mockery song about it and they all ended up living normal lives and having families
>>43641140>how is racism real if Bill Cosby has a lot of money?
>>43641215he was puddin' his dick where it don't belong
>>43640930lmao, Dworky>women deserve stuff!!Maximum AFaB brainGo make it yourselfoh waityou don't want toyou don't want to engineer anything or obsessively complete a creationI guess men are supposed to do that
>>43640882Most of them, especially online, are arguing in bad faith and cannot be reached.But you have to realize women are concerned for their own safety and privacy. It is kind of actually on us to convince them that we deserve their trust, individually and as a group.>>43640917Also true. Most of the objection to trannies is coming from men, and the anti-trans women are far more reachable in terms of softening their views.>>43640897Transgenderism isn't a political movement. Like what do you think its goals are?
>>43641312its funny to me that women feel they are just being kept from power and that they want to work 80 hours a week being a ceo or politician and its not that they'd rather stay at home and shop online >>43641366>Like what do you think its goals are?eradicating homosexuality, reinforcing gender roles, and preventing feminine men from gaining meaningful social power
>>43640882i dont like feminism because its racist
>>43641382My boss remarked once in a fit of honesty that she thinks the "girlboss" thing was a patriarchal trap.Like, men made her want to have a career and she resented that it made her busy and have too many things to be accountable for.I wanted to scream laughing.
>>43640898For whomst.
>>43640882niggy fall don stars an hit womans but no go to jail
>>43641437A lot of women think this way but it's such a lie. Like they forgot their own feminist history of demanding the right to education and the right to work and all that jazz. As if cause and effect always has a Man as the original cause somewhere, and women are innocent beings strung along by the beats of his phallic drum.
>>43641382>eradicating homosexualityYet they support transbians. Curious.>reinforcing gender rolesExcept that unless you pass other people read you as gnc. And realistically what percentage of trannies do you think end up passing?>preventing feminine men from gaining meaningful social powerSo my situation's obviously fairly unique in that I'm a mutant manlet to female transsexual, but if anything I've gained social power and influence.Like my life is what transmaxxers hope to achieve more or less.Though I guess you could argue it's not a feminine man doing it now. But generally transphobes would argue I still am one.
>>43640942Central point of the book is >All trannies are raping women just by existing because if a men tries to become a woman this is rape of the platonic form of the woman or whatever the lead content in my water isBecause of this retard (Janice Raymond), Dowrkin and friends I simply can not respect feminism in any way, shape or form.These are people who made careers and livings as "academics", when they are actually just ideologues writing asinine dogma and doing ideologically biased research from their ivory towers while thinking of themselves as revolutionaries.Just take a look at how Dworkin was so obsessed with pornography and rape she wrote many books on how watching porn turns men into rapists, then her friends and fellow academic feminsists worked backwards to cook up low quality, biased experiments and studies to prove this conclusion they accepted as truth fromthe get go. Unsurprisingly, proper studies done by people interested in real science found either no relationship between watching porn and violence against women or extremely weak results like >well but statistically we found that men that jerk 8 hours per day to violent BSDM are more likely to call women "bitches" on some context than the general populationEven liberal feminism is like this. There is an obvious and good political movement of>women should be respected, have the same rights as men and face no discrimination just for being womenthat people associate with liberal feminism but then their academics are still there in their ivory towers cooking up biased research to justify all the other ludicrous aspects of whatever flavor of their ideology they subscribe to
>>43641382>power and that they want to work 80 hours a week being a ceo or politician and its not that they'd rather stay at home and shop onlineLots of women want power and they should be able to go for it just like men are
>>43641659>she wrote many books on how watching porn turns men into rapistsShe was correct
>>43641124Yes we can we do it everyday
>>43641659Fascinating - canz u elaborate? Like what were the particular studies in question
>>43640898TERFism is the logical endpoint of feminism. The means create the ends. Stop being a misandrist.
>>43640882>Is feminism the ultimate self own?yes. you shouldnt be taking them seriously
>>43640882Feminism is about as defined as woke so you could literally make it sound like the most based or cucked thing depending on your definition.
>>43642794Stop being an andrist that makes us feel misery.
>>43640882>this whole threadTrannies aren't beating the "scratch a troon and a foaming at the mouth misogynist bleeds" allegations. >>43641008 in particular sounds like something from Elliot Rodger's manifesto.
>>43642985OK but misogyny is correct.
>>43640953MEN BUILT EVERYTHING OMGGG yeah and the world is a shithole because of it.... lol. also enjoy the internet???? you mean how i get on youtube and theres 5 hour ads on everything? or how i get on instagram and its basically slight-diet tiktok? or when i go on porn sites and its "JUST TURNED LEGAL 0.000000000001 SECONDS AGO LITTLE TEEN SLUT WHORE CUNT BITCH GETS RAPED BY LIKE EVERY MAN ON THE EARTH"......like... what enjoyment derived from the internet? the internet is a shithole too because yall fucked it all up for PROFIT. this entire website was made by some 15 year old lolicon after CSAM was banned off somethingawful and pretty much its one of the biggest contributors to everything thats currently making the world a shithole. men didnt do shit but build everything only to ruin it. yall suck lol. get over yourselves.
>>43640955no offense but you're really ugly. i can tell by the fact that you type like a sex offender
>>43642961>I feel this way and it's your responsibility>feministchecks out... learn to take accountability before you hurt someone
>>43640917>women are more pro-tranny on average btwon average where? in the entire world? absolutely not true the majority of humans on this earth are transphobic. in the west? yeah i think so, but even if we assume that every single cis woman in the west likes trannies that's still like 8% or smth
>>43641551crickets btw
>>43643242>men didnt do shit but build everything only to ruin it. yall suck lol. get over yourselves.? the majority of people working at the IETF (internet engineering task force) are MEN the majority of people writing the standards for internet protocols are MEN the majority of computer science research papers are written by MENthe majority of people working at hardware networking vendors are MEN72% of programmer are MENi genuinely don't understand this retarded point and post, like you do realize that this is completely untrue right? so if you knew that why would you say this? gaslighting? men built the internet. and you cannot disprove this in any way shape or form
>>43640882me when i oversimplify an extremely complex political movement in order to validate my trans identitypeople really are getting stupideralso this is a bait postsage this shit
>>43643479>moidraging out on thread>didn't get glowing reviews>"damn feminists!">>43643825Women are in my (biased by living in the US) experience more likely than men to be pro-tranny. I'm assuming that's what the author meant.>>43643887They never want to engage with substance. They think they've got you with empty platitudes, kinda like liberals ironically.