Hello,I typically lurk in other boards /tv/ and /mu/. I know Queers by my own sensitive interests. Personally, I respect and say pronouns to however that person identifies. I consider it real because I respect the subjective reality of other people. I do not think there is an objective reality which unifies all of humanity. What we understand and take as "objective" is forced upon us as "fact" and "real" by a virtue of strength, power and powerwashing history. There is no fundamental objective reality.I have not had trans thoughts nor desire to be the opposite sex. But, I think sex and the gender binary - as I with described objective reality - is a purely fickle matter that we have enforced as humans.There is nothing that relates to have male chromosomes that relates to being a boy. Same for women. All this manhood, womanhood is a deep facade born out of society's old mechanisms of social control. As a result, men subconsciously fear being "girly" and women subconsciously fear being "mannish."I think trans people, like cis people, had these subconscious fears. But, the only thing which separates the cis from the trans is that trans people seek to interrogate this socially implemented (or quietly frankly raped) subconscious fear. When one stamps it this fear, conquers or subverts the binary that they have been told to "obey", they feel good. You all felt good. This created a positive dopamine reward loop.Euphoria is your brain's neurochemistry having a dopamine feedback loop from the destroying the binary which subconsciously haunted you. Dysphoria is your brain in withdrawal. Can it be fixed? No and it shouldn't be. Your body should take the natural adjustments to match your brain's complex neurochemistry. Sex change is both necessary and unnecessary. I fully support it, yet I won't cater to a trans person's delusions that they are purely their generated sex because no-one is purely a woman or a man. But, I'll respect their pronouns.Have a good day!
>>43641519Go outside and kick a rock, tell me if it's objectively real or not.
>>43641548Are you the rock or the foot? Depends, doesn't it? The only answer is yes. This response makes it look like you cannot understand complexity.
desu i kinda agree. i think a trans man is a man as much as a cis man is, but manhood and womanhood (and maleness and femaleness in an anatomical sense, to a degree) are constructs and so despite being a transsexual male I feel kinda repulsed by the idea of asserting maleness in a way that defines being a man as something that immutably is. i respect other trans people, of course, I believe they should have autonomy, but I dream of a world in which binary bathrooms are no longer a thing and people can customize their bodies and selves generally without a need for labels. but "gender abolitionists" often seem in favor of sacrificing transsexuality in favor of that hypothetical fantasy world, aligning with transphobes, and I'm more in favor of sacrificing cisness first, which would never happen in my lifetime so I won't attack gender validity politics in the meantime
Realest fucking way I've ever seen it put
>>43641519Based and unironically correct philosopher batman.At the end of the day, we cannot know if someone is a big "guy" without knowing who they are a big "guy" for.
>>43641519I haven't really felt this euphoria you are talking about. It would be more convenient if breaking taboos was inherently satisfying but it's not, psychoanalysis is not quite an exact science. There is more to objective reality than other people raping you into accepting something. In the end it's what anyone of sound mind and enough experience can agree on, whether they obey someone or they fight each other there are certain unavoidable realities that are shared between friends and foes alike.
Is the euphoria I get from crossdressing still of the transsexual pathology if part of my vindication from>destroying the binaryoriginates from my childhood molestation? As in, at least in part, I never had a self-actualization as my birth sex, since my earliest toddler memories of it are all tainted? Its a very chicken or the egg situation. I still doubt myself even when transsexual thoughts have painted my complex for the past two decades.
>>43642005I agree with the latter part. However, that sound mind consensus that is shared between friend and foe alike is often upheld by violent threat. Regardless, breaking taboos is not analagous to the release of trans individuals when they break the binary. Because I believe breaking taboos (nudity, sexually perverse, etc.) isn't as violently repressed gender expectations. Being sexually perverse and / other taboos if broken can still leave your social standing intact whereas gender expectation (manning as a woman, womanning as a man) is far more violently upheld. The more violently a social behavior is discouraged, the more it lays hidden within the subconscious. As I said, I think everyone carries this fear. What seperates the cis and trans people is if within a person, their free will will find comfort within keeping that subconscious anger. If it doesn't and their free will cannot handle it - not based on a metric of strength or willpower, rather personal preference - I do think depending on the free will of a person, they psychologically fetishize the act of destroying or embodying that subconscious fear thereby becoming trans.Essentially, trans people are the only people who's free will and Id is so non-normative that they require to enliven the subconscious fears which plague and beleaguer cis people.
>>436415482 people kick the same rock with the same level of force, it hurts one persons foot but not the other. is either person's experience any more or less real
>>43642867Violence has a reality of its own. The point being that you can't will anything you want into existence whether by violence or any other force. Reality will impose itself in the process of willing and creating. It happens every day to every kind of being. It's how you know that you are not really dreaming, despite what the psychoanalysts say.
>>43641519This has literally absolutely nothing to do with psychoanalysis. Maybe you like the word because the syllables are psycho- and analysis, but what you describe is philosophical and sociological, at most it is social psychology, but not psychoanalytical
>>43643305A rock experiences pain differently than a human. You're still doing the same mistake. You don't understand what I'm saying. That's ok.
>>43643513My post discusses the subconscious.
>>43643464Yes, you can will anything you want within the realm of your control. Social behavior and identity and the self, modulated through conscious desires and unconscious desires, are all from the root of your free will. However, violence discourages and scares certain modes of being. If a thorn pricks, you won't touch a rose. This is how violence regulates self-determination. If by reality you mean a recognition of the present world as "real", yes everyone has some version of this sentiment. However, not universally which is what I mean by my "objective reality" claim. Some do not have the ability to tell if they're in a dream or not, does that make them less human? I do not believe so. You're line of thinking in which an objective reality imposes on us all will naturally lead to the belief that some form of consciousnesses are more existent than others. I tantmountly reject this. Reality is subjectively defined, but people can agree on what is real by reason and rationality. However, its all subjectively filtered 100%.On my point of trans consciousness, I still am steadfast that trans people are engaging in a psychoanalytical song and dance between their subconscious gender worries and doing said song and dance defines their trans identity. Yet, purely, there is no man or woman in the mirror with which a trans person identifies. Only you. And this is everyone's experience. Yet, for trans people, their mode of reality can only be expressed via the complete erasure, destruction and body modifying their physical self to conquer over this subconscious fear. Cis people do not require to do so to live, trans people do. The bigger truth lies in that this is one of the many human things we as humans engage in. The disregard of this is to disregard humanity. I am not pro-trans rights. No. I am pro-humanity and the human experience. No other species can define and create meaning as powerfully as this.If you are no longer in this thread, I bid you good day!
>>43643840Why do you need an analysand to orient your own subjectivity?
>>43643958I like categorizing. Why do you ask, Anon?
