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What are the factors involved in a guy becoming really effeminate?
Is it lack of father figure?
Is it the moms?
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>>43644867
>Be male
>Be too zesty
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I heard it's because of trauma. Like a sister or aunt dying, so you devour their souls and become spicy
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>>43644891
alt:
Being too fruity
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>>43644867
Are there not actual studies about brain structure, which can itself trace back to uterine hormone washings?
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Developmental & genetic predisposition that is reinforced with correct socialization
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>>43645068
So we can socialize a gay boy to be even gayer?
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>>43644867
its pretty simple, its just the path of least resistance, its not hot to be a bottom as a normal looking dude, but it is as a zesty twink, so looking like a zesty twink makes you gay
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>>43644915
>>43645068
yes, it's mostly just innate. The brain needs testosterone exposure in the womb to fully masculinize. If because of unusual womb conditions or low androgen receptor density the brain isn't masculinized enough, then you get a brain that's much more feminine than a normal male brain, which also results in feminine sexual behavior (homosexuality, transsexuality)
then behavior, mannerisms, speech, etc., is reinforced through childhood socialization with girls
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>>43644867
Female brains
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>>43645181
my brain was masculinized, i hate being faketrans. i need to rope
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>>43645209
if you're trans it probably wasn't
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>>43645231
i dont act very feminine though, twinks mog me to death
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>>43644867
prenatal hormones. that's literally it. it's basically an intersex condition imo
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>>43645243
you probably didn't get early childhood socialization with girls to reinforce behavior
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>>43645259
maybe but i literally just feel like a man taking hrt for some reason so whatever. i fucked my life up
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>>43644867
its the moms.
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>>43645177
normal looking dudes getting fucked in the ass is HOT though
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Im a hot masc male thact actually would be a bottom fem if I wasnt a loyal man.

I have wondered all my life if my mom smoking cigs while I was in the womb made my dick small or affected my sexuality.

She definitely taught me to be a bitch. From my relationship with a woman I can tell that the woman Ive been with wished I was more aggressive. That Librul upbringing did not make a good man.
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Its the fluoride
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>>43644867
I think it’s bc my parents beat the shit outta me or at least that’s what I tell them. being hit as a child encourages submissiveness
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>>43645181
That's really explains me. I'm sure the harmful effect in utero, yet the biggest issue is I was literally raised the same as my two sisters
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>>43645272
Maybe you don't have a natural feminine soul
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>>43645177
what if you are gay as an early twink, then during mid to later twink years you try to butch up, because everyone else is an ex twink becoming a man, with hope of potentially becoming a man like them too, but as time passes and you remain a twink, and others naturally become men with adulthood you remain baby faced twink? then you are stuck in no man's land. i call this the twink to twink to twink pipeline. from gaytwink superstraight chud twink to supergay rebloomer twink.
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>>43645130
Yea just look at properly socialized flamer hsts vs those who got consumed by the non normie internet from a young age instead. The difference in their behavior is striking
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>>43644867
The societal urge to quantify the unquantifiable is extremely grating.
Can't things just be what they are? Not everything can be reduced down to basedence you redditors.
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>>43645181
It may be that effeminate gay men likely have less masculinized brains, but most MTFs do not. They come off as painfully masculine attempts at trying to imitate a feminine woman, usually.
I think a lot of us are in the middle, too. As a guy, I have been ridiculed for being too effeminate in my mannerisms, in my voice (not in a gay way i'm just soft-spoken), interests, walking gait, etc. and yet now, even though I can actually pass without trouble, it still feels like the average woman is comparatively made of feminine pixie dust or something compared to me.
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>>43647389
why not stay male so you are fem compared to male and get dopamine from that and do the thing where you larp as oh so manly while still being obviously effeminate and get dopamine from that too
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>>43647389
it's a real blackpill to grow up being made fun of and called a girl for being a faggy male only to realize you're still a horiffic rape ogre compared to women
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>>43647440
Dysphoria.Also why would I get dopamine hits from either of those things.
>>43647486
Tainted by male socialization I guess.
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>>43647661
isnt it better to be fem for a male than masc for a woman for your dysphoria? by being a hon, dysphoria is constantly on your mind, whereas if you are a fem male, gender only comes up when you are made aware how fem you are relative to other males. maybe you are homophobic or something and need to be seen as a girl for other reasons than gender.
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shekinah glory is inside of them
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>>43644867
I wish I became effeminate instead of chud..
Guess it's upbringing and gender role enforcement
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>>43644867
Better question: why do some of them still stay being a faggy guy when they can troon out? Or just be a normal, heterosexual man like me?
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>>43649887
Because HRT is a finite resource?
Because all the things that come with trooning out cost a fucking fortune?



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