like i'm a straight guy so idk what exactly i'm doing on this board but...i masturbated to "fem pov blowjob"...i feel like i did something i should not have done
>>43673663I tried doing that once but i couldn’t so i just back to gay porn
>>43673663holds 0 moral weight. stop worrying about it. do whatever you want forever
>>43673785Every single action you take has a moral value to it.
>>43673799neurotic retard. you will live your life in misery
>>43673663you have to suck me now bro
>>43673799If you view it like this, why watch porn?Just stop lmao
>>43673802Neurotic? Nah. I just recognize that I'm an evil person and do whatever I want. It's y'all who think you're good people who do the most unbelievably fucked up things.
>>43673799morals are just a concept created by neurons, nothing in objective reality holds any moral value as its all subjective
>>43673901If you think you are evil for the very action of watching "female pov blowjob".Then why dont you think you are evil for watching any porn in general?How can you know if the video you are watching was made ethically correct?Especially with how prevelant sex trafficking & rape is in the porn industry
>>43673901there is no such thing as good or evil, and if there was it wouldn't be mediated by your jagoff material. this stupidity is the product of your christian upbringing and has poisoned you like the offal which is dropped in the well.castigating yourself for masturbating is useless. castigating yourself for the kind of masturbating you do is neurotic.there is only harm and lack-of-harm. you have not hurt anyone by masturbating to weird porn, except me, who unwisely clicked and now has to listen to you whine about it
>>43673933good is the measurement of selflessnessevil is the measurement of selfishness
>>43674008i just realized i don't care about anything you do or believe. good bye
>>43674008Subjective concept = measurement of other subjective conceptGenius!Tl;dr: morality is subjective and this is a meaningless statement
>>43674008>>43674027>>43674028can we all just agree that OP has to suck me?
>>43673663>relating to women and seeing things through their point of view is le gay!!!!!!why are straightoids this retarded?
>>43674110>straightoidsyou're replying to a pre hrt transwoman
>>43674161if you are pre hrt, you aren't trans
>>43673663This is how it starts..I watched pov and now i'm trans, sorry OP
>>43673926>>43673933its crazy to see posts by intelligent people on this website, or anywhere online really
>>43673933why is harming people bad?
>>43674284its more of an apathetic excuse to distance myself from any shameful acts i may commit as i know deep down life is truly meaningless and i should just enjoy doing what i want. intelligence is somewhat of a curse
>>43674472Harming people is considered bad because it causes suffering and pain, which goes against the principles of compassion and empathy that are fundamental to human relationships.
>>43674472>>43674496here is a good primerbpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/campuspress.yale.edu/dist/a/2423/files/2018/03/Kagan-Deontology-ufch4u.pdf
>>43674496why is suffering and pain bad? why is going against the principles of compassion and empathy bad?
>>43674515people usually call suffering “bad” because of what it feels like from the inside and what it does to living beings. pain is a physical, nonabstract, recognizable and measurable thingy - when you burn your hand, grieve someone you love, or feel abandoned, there’s an immediate quality of “this should stop” that's mediated by physical structures. conscious creatures naturally recoil from it. that reaction is one of the deepest common features of animal life. compassion and empathy matter because they are responses to the recognition that others experience the world in that same vulnerable way. we know our own suffering matters to us and extend that recognition outward.not everyone agrees that this means suffering is objectively bad and empathy is objectively good ('badness' and 'goodness' are very difficult to objectively pin down, and it is likely that morality does not exist independently) but most constructed systems of morality reach this consensus because, speaking generally, these are actions which have good and bad consequences for the individual. from the utilitarian survivalist definition of good, communities survive better when people protect and care for one another. trust, caregiving, friendship, medicine, family life, and justice all depend on some degree of compassion. if you're a christcuck or w/e then you're lucky and don't have to think about it, it's bad because the moral authority of your religion passed down by god says it is.people have wrestled with these questions for a very long time and i cannot summarize the philosophical output of human existence here (not that i would be capable of doing that). but the primer i linked above is very short (only 25 pages, 70-95 of Kagan's 'Normative Ethics') and explains the basics of things better than I can put in my own words.
>>43674652what if one group of people feel really good about genociding a different group of peopleone group feels happiness while the other sufferedbut the genocided group are all dead and no longer suffering, leaving only the happiness of the genocidal groupthis is good right?
>>43674652>i make people suffer for fun the post
>>43674652>pain is a physical, nonabstract, recognizable and measurable thingyHow do you measure pain?
>>43674733err, in practice generally by subjective metrics. i mean that pain is mediated by the movement of physical objects and neurochemistry, so it is a quantifiable thing in-theory.
>>43674710what?>>43674707ok u don't actually care huh
>>43674733Playing dumb never works
>>43674767it's an honest question, but you dont have to think about it if it makes you uncomfortable
>>43674804jackass. did you read anything in that post that advocated 'feeling good' as the universal standard of ethics? you asked a basic question and i gave a basic answer, i'm not a utilitarian ethicist and i'm not here to defend utilitarian ethics in every edge-case you can dream up. i don't know the everything, if you wanted to know the answer to those questions you would use google or go read some books. but you don't want to know the answer, probably you just have your own pet ethics system you want to surreptitiously advocate by trying to farcically undermine basic non-sociopath shit like 'empathy is good' with ridiculous hypotheticals
>>43673663The way God works your grand kids are going to get leprosy now. Shouldn't have given that guy a blowjob cutie
>>43674857I think we've established you have no business lecturing other people since your own standards for ethics are so ambiguous as to be entirely meaningless and impractical
>>43674924i knew you weren't really curious about any of it. fucking stupid of me to engage with you. im not here to advocate my personal system of ethics, i was just sharing the very basic foundations of constructed systems of ethics which any moron could pick up in an introductory philosophy course
I regret to inform you that you have caught trannyism.
>>43674707What does this have to do with the linked post lol
Anyone deep into philosophy needs to bite the bullet. They are the root cause of problems.
>>43675005It always boils down to might makes right in the end since there's no fundamental reason why hurting others is bad
>>43675081>There is no objective morality>Ergo I can do anything you wantChildish
>>43675081Thanks for proving me right and all of them wrong. It is that simple.
>>43675096that is the hell you work to create
>>43674940the sooner you learn that strangers won't ever have a reason to give a fuck about you and your personal strugges, the better
