For FFS, would you prefer to do it in Europe or Korea? I've heard Korea is a really good place but does that apply of you're not Asian? Would you save up for an all in one package or did you do one surgery at a time? Were you happy with the results?
>>43679596I'm happy with my results, but i think Korea might have been better. Imo go korea because this stuff is their bread n butter
>>43679628Which procedures did you have done? How much did you pay for them?
Who’re the best Korean FFS surgeons for non-Asians?
like 80% of botched ffs surgeries i’ve seen have been from eu. i think eu has decent surgeons for other things, but ffs they really seem to suck at. i’ve seen great results from south america, us, & korea. whatever you do don’t go to facial team
>>43679998>i’ve seen great results from south america, us, & korea.I just keep hearing Korea. I'm so torn on which to save up for because for some results I've seen it's been nearly the same as before. It's been blackpilling me a little, I won't lie.
>>43679596Europe basically sucks, there is only 1 surgeon in the entirety of the EU to have both the necessary certifications and requisite skill for FFS (don't have the name, just know it was someone in Spain). DONT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF GOING TO FACIALMEME, imo they dont have the necessary skills and as a result have to be less aggressive in their technique, producing worse results from and aesthetic perspective.Korea is a completely mistake if you are not Asian, most of their patients will be Asian, and Asians require a different Forehead Contouring surgery due to differences in skill shape. imo they simply won't have done enough FC to get it right on a European face.USA has some of the best surgeons (a lot of the modern FFS techniques were created by US surgeons), but is very costly.So your best bet is Korea if your Asian, US if your European, anything else I have no idea.
>>43679596Mardirossian results look good.
>>43679596ive got my surgery with keojampa soon and im very excited!
Does anyone know which surgeon TransVoiceLessons went to?
>>43679596US surgeons are #1 in ffs. >>43685573kyle keojampa in san fran. look on his IG. he posted her once before, there is a video on her channel as well.
>>43683925I wish getting insurance to work with him was easier. If I could afford it I would choose him in a heartbeat.
>>43685714Does he not do out of pocket work anymore
>>43685726He does but I do not have the savings for it. Have saved half of my take-home pay ever since I got a full time office job (over 2 yrs now) and am not even halfway there.
>>43683604korea is okay for vline and jaw stuff, but yeah don't get forehead stuff in korea unless you're asian>and Asians require a different Forehead Contouring surgery due to differences in skill shapei think it's mostly down to beauty standards and surgeon skills, i know one person who had good type 3 done in korea, but she was korean-american and spoke korean, so could navigate their system etc. if you can't speak korean, yeah don't go there for forehead since you won't be able to do the same degree of research> FACIALMEMEdr capitan does good forehead work, honestly, you won't get a better type 3 done anywhere else in europe. they almost certainly do have the skills, i just think they tend to lean on the conservative side. i swear to god people slandering ft is some kind of a psyop, like you won't get better forehead stuff in europe>>43685614>>43685573yeah her primary was keo and then she had a revision with db but it was more of a beatification thing. i went to keo myself and i think he's alright, probably one of the best in the us along with mardi/db/jumaily/mittermiller and maybe rolfes>>43685714i almost went to mardi but changed my mind, lost a $10k deposit. it is what it is though ... still kind of kick myself about losing 10 grand sometimes but it's not the first time i've lost a lot of money to being a retard
>>43679596Asians are more aggressive in surgery in general. Chet does enough white people he seems competent. Not sure about Korea.
>>43685744Did you get a quote? How much are you expecting it to cost?
>>43679596I've always hear Koreans and Thais only know how to do Koreans and Thais. I'm looking at Argentina, they''re a great mix or normal White people and pretty Latinas, they have a ton of skill, and their currency is in the toilet so it's way way cheaper than Facialteam or Beverly Hills.
>>43683935Lucky. Godspeed Nona.
>>43686924>Koreans and Thais only know how to do Koreans and ThaisDepends. Some get decent experience on whites and learn what it takes.>>43685752>I'm looking at ArgentinaThis thread makes the Argentinian doctors seem... suboptimal.
>>43686002No personal quote but with what I'm expecting it'd be $70k
>>43687801Holy shit. What does 70k get you?
>>43686924what surgeons are you looking into? i'm from argentina and planned to save to get ffs in europe
>>43687770Thanks Nona, I'm gonna read through that thread>>43687928I was looking at Emiliano Torres (Córdoba). I already heard Di Maggio was a butcher and an asshole, and there's mixed stories about Rossi.If money wasn't an issue I'd go to one of the Americans, but...
>>43687850Type 3 forehead reduction + orbital contouring + brow lift V-line Genioplasty Malar implantsRhinoplastyHairline advancement"Operating room expenses" (why the quotes for this are so high I'll never understand)Also there's a chance I'll need revisions for soft tissue since I have loose skin from weight loss.
>>43688091>Malar implantsi had a really bad experience with cheek implants from my primary ffs and had to get them removed because of an infection 6 years down the line and now i look worse because of it. my cheeks make me kinda sad, i had keo do fat grafts to my cheeks but unfortunately, because my weight isn't really very stable, i have nothing left from the grafts anymore. i might get another fat graft done in korea or something, it's a pretty trivial procedure so nothing to really mess up anyway, but i'm never getting any permanent implants again aside from titanium plates anywhere again because i had such a bad experience with them. they're also kind of a pain to remove.
>>43688137That sucks. I have latched onto malar implants for the time being because I noticed just how much nicer my face looks for the first like 20 minutes after electrolysis because I get some swelling in the soft tissue. I unfortunately have loose skin from weight loss so my cheeks sag slightly rather than being nice and full.
>>43688153>I have latched onto malar implants for the time being because I noticed just how much nicer my face looks for the first like 20 minutes after electrolysis because I get some swelling in the soft tissue.yeah, i actually liked how i looked with swelling after ffs, and now that it has gone down, i look worse imho. i can actually share some photos if you're curious, and i also kinda wanted feedback on what i look like as well. can add me on discord on ayayayatw if you want to see>loose skin from weight lossoh yeah i can relate, i needed a facelift because i went from 60kg to 120kg and then back to 69kg. my body is kinda ruined because of the drastic weight gain and loss. when i had my fat grafts i was 82kg but then went to 69kg and now that's all gone. i'm back to 75kg because of stress eating because of some life events, and i think that actually makes me look a tiny bit better
>>43688241I'd definitely be interested to see. I had similar weight loss (was at 115 kg for a long time before transition and dropped as low 70kg and am now sitting at just under 80kg).
>Koreans only know how to work on KoreansThat would make sense.. but Vlad looks so much better? Do we have pictures of westerners getting Korean FFS? Could I, as a half south american/white mix get away with it?
>>43688276>was at 115 kg for a long time before transition and dropped as low 70kgHow old were you and how bad is the loose skin?
>>43679596anybody have theirs done by Mittermiller? i'm getting a rhinoplasty in a few weeks and later this year we're getting the rest of my face done
>>43688137Did you ever consider just getting filler in that area instead?
>>43690194Vlad is a world class master at catfishing tho. but he's also just super good looking in general. You can totally get away with it, I think it's more that they all tend to have a certain aesthetic ideal
>>43690194i have same question. I am 3/4 white but i think i ended up with an asiatic skull shape
I'm looking at the docfinderkorea shorts on YouTube and they have a lot of western people, and the few I've seen so far look really, really good
>>43690210I was overweight since I was 13 ish and the loose skin on my face means I lack proper cheek volume.
>>43687770Oof that's horrific
