thoughts on lesbians?
>>43716084i think they’re cool and i envy them sometimes
>>43716084they are the most attractive people alive
>>43716084they keep stealing my gfs. that's not cool
>>43716084cis women lesbians are cool. trans lesbians are fake and gay
>>43716084are they real?
>>43716084They’re okay, I don’t think about them really, I work with one and she’s a mean butch who scolded me for taking a break outside :/ you can sit in fluorescent light all day I don’t want my soul stolen and like don’t give me “it’s a safety concern” bitch like I’d gladly welcome being abducted at this point so I don’t have to be here
>>43716755i would be ok with a mean butch scolding me
>>43716084They are fat ugly women usually
>>43716084Pretty awesome
>>43716727No, women are bisexual
Lesbians are either really cool girls to talk to or the most insufferable, self-centered BPDemons to exist. I've never met one in the middle.
Lesbianism is trauma bonding taken to an unhealthy extreme. asexuals larping as political lesbians in particular are beyond retarded, if you've ever dealt with them YK what I'm talking about
>>43717008doesnt mean that all lesbians are like that though
>>43717008>homophobia + misogyny on ttttyay
>>43717014not all no but, speaking as a transgender man whos dated in all 4 squares of the LGBTverse lesbians easily are the biggest meme. political lesbians will say with a straight face "yeah I'm not even attracted to women but I'm a real lesbian" before going off on a cookie cut terf spiel against MtFs and FtMs who "need to comeback home". half of them are no different from right wingers on twitter but instigate x100 more drama if you don't tolerate their snarky behavior.
>>43716084They're pretty great.>t. lesbian>>43716988Real>>43717090Wait where do you live? The only TERFs I think I've met IRL are straight politicians or lobbyists.
>>43717090interacting with lesbians for years and have only met one single political leabian and shes just stupid not transphobic i got no idea what youre talking about
>>43717163>>43717170I'm in upstate NY
>>43716084I envy them a lot. My life would have been simpler if I was either attracted to women or born as one and they get to do both.
>>43717090Of course a woman that wants to be a man would say that
>>43716084regular women, outside of the clit licking desu. If your not a consevercuck. you probably feel the same way about them that you do every other bitch you run into. they are slightly more competent atleast the butch ones
>>43717523except lesbians are turbofoids that piranha eachother>>43710209
Life would be so much easier if I was just born lesbian instead of trans. I wish I wasn't terrified of cis women or what they think of me.
>>43719373real
>>43716084im one of those
All the ones I've interacted with IRL have been quite nice so I only have good things to say.
>>43716084They make me angry and jealous because I know I'll never have what they havet. cis man
>>43720302the grass is always greener on the other side
>>43716084This board is made up of 95% white men who wish they were lesbians lol
>>43720533whats the other 5%
>>43716084I think cis lesbians are really cool I just wish some of them didnt hate everybody who wasn't a cis lesbian themself (they can be really hostile to anybody who doesn't have a vag)
>>43717008send your ex my way please
>>43716084>Cisbiansmost are cringe. some are cool.a lot of them think they are cooler than they are.i hate how oftentimes they are uneducated about political issues outside of the minority they are in. though that's most people.i hate how most never unpack their internalized transphobia and think just because they would fuck a trans guy because he has a pussy and "grew up as a girl" makes them woke. >"Cisbians are the most accepting of trannies"Yes because they are literally just pussysexual & fembrainedsexual.i really dislike the tiktok divine femininity ones.
>>43721182>transbiansmost are cringe. some are cool.a lot of them think they are cooler than they are.i hate how oftentimes they are uneducated about political issues outside of the minority they are in. though that's most people.i hate how enough of them are creepy and malebrained online to give a reputation for creepiness, apparently even within the community. Maybe it's not the majority, but they are the loudest and I hate them. Also I'm grossed out about the ugly balding autistic hairy older ones who are constantly being overly sexual and talking about gock. I pity them because they are in that position because they didn't get help trooning earlier, are traumatized, and severely autistic (Chris Chan types.) But they still gross me out because of their lack of self awareness and literal AGPEven though I'm a chaser, I also hate transbians who talk about gock so much.
>>43716084they're just one of the boys in our group. gotten pretty close to one but since i'm a cis male, im hyperaware to not to try to get too close
>>43721222>tranmasc lesbiansall are cringenone are cool.they all think they are way cooler than they are.Despite being correct that HRT would make them look fucking hideous, the most annoying ones are the ones who refuse to go on HRT.i hate how they are severely uneducated about all political issues. but correct everyone else, completely disregarding queer theory for lgbtqia wiki screenshots of tumblr posts that another transmasc came up with in the shower. and weaponize racial issues from an oftentimes american-centric political lense.I hate how most of them are creepy and malebrained. But don't get a reputation for creepiness because they play into misogynistic ideas that women are innocent (AFAB socialization). I also hate how they treat trans women and how they view solidarity with women as something you are born into. (Even if they don't say it)I hate the ones who are like 30 still acting and dressing the same way they did as a teenager. Or think that femboy is anything but a pedophilic beauty standard
>>43721271transmasc lesbians also arent real despite them insisting they are because guys cant be lesbians
>>43721271As an FTM:Some FTM lesbians seem like performative males to meThey think they understand women just because they inhabit the vessel of oneOthers, the reppers, constantly talk about ovaries and shit because they desperately wanna cling to kinship with women by pretending they have something in common, even if it's just a body part
>>43721222youre gross
>>43721182>i hate how most never unpack their internalized transphobia and think just because they would fuck a trans guy because he has a pussy and "grew up as a girl" makes them woke.Truth nuke>Yes because they are literally just pussysexual & fembrainedsexual.False nuke. Not true at all>i really dislike the tiktok divine femininity ones.Truth nuke.
>>43721271>femboy is anything but a-please get off tumblr and lose weight, sow
AAP FTM Dykes are of the trutrans variety
>>43717215really? I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "political lesbian"
>>43716084Bi women are better, lesbos are huge bitches half the timet. lesbo
Cisbians are all male brained gooners and chasers and I'm tired of pretending they're not.
As a bisexual man, I wish I was a lesbian so I could date lesbians because the kind of girls I’m attracted to tend to be lesbians.I swear I’m not a tranny, but I feel I’m lesbian “in spirit” if that makes sense.
dykes have penis envy, gays have QOL envy. might as well be trans
>>43722441>swear i'm not a trannyi'm sure you tell yourself that a lot hon. a running joke with you isn't it
theyre like whatever ig. a lot of them are super annoying and weird but a lot of them are just normal (kinda like everyone).when i was in highschool this one girl really wanted to be my friend for whatever reason and would also constantly bring up that she was a lesbian (i mean like literally every day she'd come up to me and crack some joke about kissing girls) and i just thought she was a weirdo but in retrospect she was probably autistic or had some other form of minor retardation. shes really the most memorable lesbian ive known just cause she was super socially inept (and i kinda bullied her a bit but nothing serious)ive known a few other lesbians but they werent memorable and were just normal people.
>>43717215I'm in the midwest and biggest problem I've had is bpdemons and narcissists desu
>>43720641brown men who wish they were lesbians>>43720533but seriously 95% white is very optimistic for this jeet board
>>43722404Bi women are better as friends as partners you might as well just date Adolf Hitler (Yes I've been very hurt)
>>43722416true honestly>>43722866>autistic socially inept lesbiana lil too close to home here
>>43721271Ur just a jealous hon that they get more play than ull ever get loll stay mad hon!
>>43722441Thiabis the exact shit that total males say that tranaition into a creepy ogre hon. The 'spirit' you feep is you fetishizing. Ur not a lesbian and you never will be creep
>>43716084all of the hot ones dont know how to stop talking for a ferw moments. i get it id probably be like that too if i werent also into men but meeting a femme who is just kind and not chronically online or experimenting is so impossible
>>43725372anon isnt even trans you retard, plus transmasc lesbians arent getting any play lets be real here no lesbian wants to fuck a dude as much as they cope about accept transmasc lesbians
>>43725421Are u even a ftm? Cause wtf? Everyone knows transmascs get the most play. There are a lot of fetishist chaser lesbians who love 'transmascs'. When I was pre t and looked like thw 'transmasc' stereoype? Oh boy my dms had never been that full. Still even now, on lesbian apps i get the most swipes. I get about 60 likes when on a normal app i get like 5
>>43725468yes im ftm and this shit doesnt happen to anyone, nice larp though. most youll get is some fetishists that will treat you like a butch lesbian that the most bottom of the barrel lonely doods might take up on but if you have an ounce of self respect (or testosterone) you're getting none of that
>>43716084I don't think about you at all
>>43725421> plus transmasc lesbians arent getting any play lets be real hereNah that's the worst part. They get the most play out of any tranny 'cause the cisbians are all pussysexual like anon said. >>43721182
>>43725498straight ftm =/= transmasc lesbiantransmasc lesbians love being women more than cis women
>>43725468>Everyone knows transmascs get the most play.Yeah this lmao. DMs flooded.
>>43716084how come a bunch of so called lesbians are actually bisexual and why do so many women use they them pronouns
>>43721222>transbiansI know I can't be but sometimes I feel like I'm the only halfway sane and generally integrated into society trans lesbian on Earth.>>43726367I get the impression people feel the need to declare even small amounts of bisexuality.Like if I'm 99% into women but rarely meet a man I could get with, am I obligated to call that out?What if occasionally I think a man is hot but the concept of sex with him is unappealing or even a little repulsive to me?I've seen something like that except from a 99.9% straight "bi" woman.
>>43727834self described "trans lesbians" are either normal women who don't want to come across as creepy pervesor really weirdly online and obsessed with not being a creepy perv so much that's all they talk about.
>>43716084I worked at a lesbian couple’s house one time and I couldn’t answer one of the lady’s questions, and she got really aggressive with me for a second. I think maybe she thought I was a man and was used to having to assert herself like that so people would take her seriously? Anyway, I think she noticed in my face that she had scared me because she immediately softened again. That was weirdAside from that I haven’t ever really thought about lesbians
How common are cis+trans lesbian couples in practice?Do the two types basically stick with each other and rarely mix?
>>43730203There is no shortage of straight couples, and there is no shortage of bi women who claim they are lesbians while sucking dick.
>>43730219why are relationships phallocentric? why aren't they defined by everything that makes a woman a woman.
From what I read online, I'd almost think lesbians would want my moid head on a pike but all the ones I know irl are super chill. A friend I know from school is one of the coolest people I know, shes rides a motorcycle which I always kinda mentally associated with more butch figures but she's just your average girl. Others I met through college were always nice to me and vice-versa.
>>43730388are you gay?
>>43729916I always thought transbian in modern times carried T4T connotations. I don't really find them creepy IRL, but there does seem to be a distinct subculture that I'm not a part of.
>>43717215For real? I know there are a few in Buffalo
>>43730203The thing is it's easier to get with a trans girl. And the lesbian dating scene is scarce as far as actual lesbians go. So a certain type of trans woman will always appeal to a certain type of lesbian, especially if they don't want bi girls and the trans girl seems genuine and ESPECIALLY if she looks female.
>>43730965Wow so you're saying there's a chance
>>43722441I get you. That must suck.>>43725391I don't think you understood what they were trying to convey. All the women he ends up attracted to happen to be lesbian. He isn't claiming to be one. He's frustrated because he feels like he can't find love in people who could love him back.
>>43716084As a man I hate that I can only love them. It's even worse when they turn out to be bi for someone else.
>>43727834>I feel like the only socially integrated trans lesbian on earthI feel this so much ;~;There's a trans girl I'm interested in who the most male brained thing about her is she plays fighting games and watches shonen. But otherwise, she talks like any other girl I've met. She constantly talks about shopping together and wanting to do our hair and makeup together. Then, there are those who act like a boy, or an incel, and there's barely anything feminine about their interests or mannerisms. Those seem to be the tgirls people highlight the most.It's a strange mixed bag, and I wonder if autism plays a role. Because the ones who act more like men always seem to be firmly on the spectrum
>>43716988i somewhat think I'm inbetween lmao (besides bpd, a lot of other disorders / schizophrenia and DID)
>>43731403The incel behavior isn't just the transbians sadly :(
>>43731403autism is honestly so much more gendered than people realize. deeply autistic people will never soulpass due to this reason
>>43734857cisbians invented incelismso if you think about it... maybe they are the trutrans
Most are cool, have dated a few. Some are weird with bis but I kinda get it since bi girls are a meme at this point. t. biTransbians I dont count as lesbians btw.
>>43737031transbians are in fact lesbians lol
>>43737049No they are just pigs with lipstick
>>43737058My experienced reality out weighs your memeish words, from my perspective.
>>43737075Takes a pig to know a pig and love being around one
>>43716084Selfish retarded and boarderline ocd about retarded stuff. Stunted emotional development. Zero points in the wisdom stats.Women that have emotional issues that outweigh their ability to pair bond
>>43737075can you share more details about your experiences with transbians then
>>43716084>thoughts on lesbians?As a cis man, I really like them. They are basically like your other cism bros, but aren't as retarded and more emotionally mature. I had a cool lesbian class mate, she is a tomboy and she used to hang out with us and do "boy stuff".And I realized over the years, that I really like transbians. I never had a real friendship with a transbian, but judging by the few I've met and the online spaces I'm in, I think a cism/transbian friendship could work out well, because we share a lot of hobbies and interests (I know stereotypes... but still). But I know that transbians are rather careful, when it comes to cism.
>>43737265>cricketsI expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
>>43727834> I feel like I'm the only halfway sane and generally integrated into society trans lesbian on Earth.What does that mean exactly. I have a job and do the dishes so I must be at least more sane than the average diapered puppygirl but I'm not really integrated into any social scene
>>43734994>autism is honestly so much more gendered than people realizeyes>deeply autistic people will never soulpass due to this reasonnoautism in females often manifests differently than autism in males; this is finally being addressed by the medical community and the broader public, and it might be a reason that autism diagnoses are so much higher in boys than girls. so yes, autism is gendered, but not male-specific. mtfs with fembrain can have femautism, which much more closely resembles autism in cis women than the stereotypical cis male autism.
>>43737611I mean some people are less social than others and there's nothing wrong with that. But you know how some people when you do interact with them, you can tell you come from very different cultures?Transbians have a subculture. Maybe multiple subcultures, of which diapered puppygirls is one.>>43735381For what it's worth I have a cisbian friend who calls herself malebrained, and I kind of believe her. But it's subtle, maybe from decades of learning to mask it to fit into a historically very homophobic society.Probably one of the things the average transbian lacks. We instead were pressured to fit in as men, which a lot of us pulled off. Jobs, wives, kids...I just happened to be a weird mutant sub-5'0" manlet who could succeed at a tech career (I mean we're all freaks the Internet is run by trans furries) but who never really inherited the full set of expectations of manhood.>t. old
>>43722441>As a bisexual manDon't ever let Cis women know that; they will tell everyone and destroy any shred of a chance you ever had with women.Not that it matters, from this post alone its clear you're 90% bottom with men. Even if you don't verbally tell the, most cis woman will be able to sense this.
>>43737265Well my experience wasn't great, before I transitioned I was part of a social group that included a fair few transbians and they bullied me for being a moid at the time. I don't talk to them anymore but it would be stupid to say they aren't lesbians just because they where bigoted towards me personally. I still think back to the time I spent with them and can relate to how they would talk and relate to the world, it's helped me personally overcome a lot of the internalized transphobia I had towards myself. I even asked someone out on date for the first time in my life not too long ago. It feels good to be myself and have the will to do something about how I feel attracted towards other people.
>>43738027No offense but that's just your opinion. Lots of people don't really consider transbians to be true lesbians especially if they belong to the t4t subculture. I'm neutral/undecided. I'd like to be a lesbian but I also believe we transbians shouldn't force ourselves into groups we are not welcome in as that's completely self-defeating and turns others against us.
>>43738061I can agree with the idea of not wanting to be in a place that doesn't want me. Though Saying one needs to change sexualities' isn't right too. Obviously rape is bad lol, but the expression of the self hurts no one. I think people who gatekeep sexuality are projecting their own insecurities onto other people, when it really costs nothing to be true to ones self and love someone. We can't stop bad things from happening and optics are out of the control of any one troon.
>>43738206It's not changing sexualities. You are not changing who you are attracted to or who you are. It's just using different labels to describe yourself to avoid stepping over existing boundaries. Lesbians have existed for a long time as their own community with a specific kind of culture. Transbians are a new and different thing with a different culture. I believe some trans women can across over into the lesbian camp a little and fit in with some cis lesbians but that seems pretty rare from everything I've seen over the years and the lesbians that accept trans lesbians are different from lesbians that don't.
>>43738298I'm sorry you feel that way : )We're really not that different, with the only distinction being biological hardware.
>>43716084pretty disgusting and strangely self righteous, but our worlds never intersect so i don't care enough to hate them
>>43716084They mog me.
>>43716084My aunt is a lesbian so I was aware of it growing up. She's cool and her gf's have usually been cool. However that ultimately painted a very positive image that has not been maintained. Most "lesbians" are not actually lesbians. They're bi women who have retarded standards for men, and are basically gincels because they can't get some korean popstar who sweeps them off their feet or some other picturesque fairy tale romance, and due to in-group bias none of those expectations get applied to the women they try to date. What this also means, though, is that the way they treat their partner is identical to how they would in their idealized het dynamic - take everything, give very little. And of course since the het relationship is what they "actually" want they will ditch their gf's, which is why gold start lesbianism and the stigma towards bi women exists.It's very obvious when someone is like this too. They're taste in women, yurishit, "queer content", whatever, is absolute slop. Madoka Magica is a favorite amongst transbians in particular and is a perfect example piece. Madoka herself is a complete non-character. She has no personality. She does nothing of note until the singular event that defines her - sacrificing herself for the "greater good". Homura, however, loves her NOT because of her willingness to make that sacrifice. She is obsessed because she was somewhat nice to her once. That's it. Their "relationship" is nothing but aesthetics, a horribly lonely and mentally damaged person obsessing over another who doesn't possess a single noteworthy trait about them. The appeal is obvious though. Most transbians - and lesbians in general - are people with absolutely nothing of note about them, or they are someone who has made endless contrition for their existence their entire raison detre. The "cool" lesbians are pretty universally tomboyish or butch, and often freaks.
>>43738460It's okay. Just as an example, I never see cis lesbians talk about biological hardware like that. Cis lesbians don't use computer metaphors as much as transbians do. That's an example of a cultural difference and there are many others. Another example is kpop for cis lesbians vs anime for transbians.
>>43716084oh this one's gonna be terfy I can smell it
