>performs intense mental gymnastics and makes up insane theories trying to debunk basic biology
Biologists: sex and gender are differentTrannies: so true! Trust the science!Biologists: and there are two sexes, male and female. For the most part, it's safe to define these based on gamete production or chromosomes. However, there are outliers like sex disorders.Trannies: first of all, bitch, there's something called a bimodal distributionWhat did trannies mean by this?
>>43747783I love how all troons immediately give off the uncanny valley feeling, you can spot them from a mile away
i am an XY male taking estradiol to mimic XX females bodies so i can be more successful at attracting other XY males. what is wrong?
>>43747783why did you pick biologists specifically? you should have picked like, epigeneticists. biologists are the ones telling you about transexual fish and bi trap birds and all-female lizards and all-male ant species, and dogs with no bones. get a biologist talking about sexes and you'll hear everything BUT a clean binary. hell, go google the bee chromosome punnet square. go on, ill wait.
>>43747912Where did I mention non-human animals or a clean binary? Why do you assume I don't know about other animals? Sex in humans is binary. That doesn't mean the two sexes don't have internal diversity or that there aren't outliers. Then again, we know how smart you are by how you distinguish biology from epigenetics.
>>43747912>transgenderism is when humans are beesnice one mate
>>43747765You met a trans woman who literally claims to have XX chromosomes?Or are you a a faggotbaby retard trying for the one millionth time to do sleight of hand between the concept of “sex” and the concept of “gender”?
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>>43747912>bee chromosome punnet squareThere are male and female bees, yes. Are you ok?
>>43747783>>43747765>>43748017>muh strawmon is hecccin real!! Fuck u trannies!!! Muh bosic biology!! Uh nothing is real past heccin chromosomes, its natur!!Were you born a retard or did Breitbart make you one?Try getting eggs out of a worker bee btw
>>43747997Funnily enough, I know a few with XX. Either typical Chappelle, or developed male genitalia only from issues with processing hormones
>>43748321You know a few larpers
>>43747824You are a fake woman tryibg to steal men's sweet, hard earned semen !!
>>43748370>chappelle is larpAnon what?
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>>43747765>performs intense mental gymnastics and makes up insane theories trying to debunk basic biology They're the worst, aren't they?
>>43747997Hi that is me
>>43747783sex = gender
>>43747765None of this is true there's no such thing as chromosomes or bugs under your skin. Challenge it by saying through it they can never prove it. They can never show me the difference? Bullshit is all it is transphobic bullshit
>>43749258Why is the man's X chromosome straight instead of bent?
>>43750673It's just a picture of drawing. All chromosomes are just pictures people make up to make transgender people feel bad
>>43750744Gene therapy, surgery, hormones, or a magical machine than completely swaps your gender. It will forever be a moving goalposts for these sadists and fascists. What's so wrong with a third, fourth, fifth, or dozens of genders. Nothing.
>>43750901trannies are the real sadists and fascists
>>43750654>>43750744>>43750901kek bunch of loons
>>43747765XY = you must do labor for most of your life and provide for a family, be stoic.XX = you must spend 90% of your life trying to look appealing because your worth is dictated by your appearance, also you have to let them rape you
>>43751042lots of women don't even wear makeup and just wear tanktops and yoga pants everywhere>you have to let people fuck you then they will pay for all your shit and you never have to worksounds easy
>>43751042Even the ugliest women get a shitton of repliesRape has never been more illegal than now, to a point where even consensual sex can easily be painted as such and it's up to the accused party to prove his innocence
>>43747783Trannies fall under the sex disorder umbrella.
>>43751361gay people are intersextrans = gay
>>43751385>trans = gaywtf does that even mean?
>>43751385you're not intersex and you can't troon your gay away by pretending you're something other than a moid
>>43751414he wants to trans the gay away, but that will never do
>>43751414trans people and gay people are the same thing
>>43751446What's your proof of that?
>>43747800I get the same feeling when I see brownsprobably why brown troons pass better
>>43750901People judge by whether you're male or female based on one's physicality. The shape of your body, size of your hands, shape of your face. Nothing like this has to do with these little invisible things, supposedly under your skin. Chromosomes is just another way for biggest harm transgender persons.
>>43751430Yes I can by looking like a woman.
>>43751687chromosomes create that physicality
>>43751720They really don't
>>43751720No they don't they don't do anything, you can't prove me wrong Just like all the other transphobes, all you do is show drawings! chromosomes doesn't exist, like my face, or my hands, or my feet
>>43751361See that would make the most sense, but somewhere along the way trannies stopped arguing that in favor of sex not being real.Part of me think it was some kind of psyop that a lot of them fell for.
>>43751865>trannies stopped arguing that in favor of sex not being realI've never heard a tranny argue this.
>>43751910Argue what exactly, can you be specific?
>>43751925When have trannies said sex isn't real?
>>43751949>>43751925 one can prove that by having sex.
>>43751949they believe chromosomes cannot exert effects that create physical structures in a definable dimorphic pattern recognizable by others, that cannot be fully erased by hormones, even when taken at a young age
>>43751964>chromosomesThis is the problem. They make up a word and say it is the same as having a penis or vagina. The only way a male has a penis and a woman has a vagina. You change that you've changed gender
>>43751964You're conflating chromosomes with genetics which is why actual medical professionals who actually care about trans health care advocate for younger ages and puberty blockers. Hormones have a much larger effect on secondary sexual characteristics that develop during puberty and why hormones replacement therapy for those who are transitioning later in life is sometimes referred to as a second puberty.
>>43752040everything trans people say seems like you just ignore what we say, troll us, and try to breed resentment while pretending you are some noble moral warrior
>>43752059Who trans women? For your information trans women do not want to be warriors!
>>43752040This is based on two dimensions. First it is better to go through a single puberty and secondly it's good idea to go through puberty at the right time when there's a window of opportunity for maximum development, which scientists know occurs between the ages, around 10 and 18 years
>>43747783This is objectively true from an academic standpoint. Its clear several biological dogmas, including a concept of “sex” is formed from incomplete knowledge and is an inferior way of knowing, as well as other areas such as genetics, protein synthesis, the contents of the human proteome, diet, human microecology in general, macroecology, speciation, taxonomy, etc built on demonstrably false or specious assertions. From that perspective the “LGBT” that accepts and promulgates this incomplete understanding as final, is ontologically satanic, along with the “biologists” who have “determined” all this. Crick was feeling up Franklin. We have only a science of experiential rape of ourselves.
>>43751706I'm sure you don't
>>43752102There is no right time but there is a more effective time which is important for affirming care. My genetics are shit and I transitioned well after puberty. For some people that alone will make me trash sub tier trans girl since I don't fit their ideal preferences and I have no delusions about that. It's like constantly being told santa claus isn't real like it's some big enlightenment. It's just being cruel for the sake of being cruel and that's why they come here to do it since it's usually not acceptable behavior in other social settings where they have to bully in other ways. We fucking know.
>>43752169Oh look at what we have here! One of those little boys who worries about whether or not we look like real women. No you won't be able to, but I sure could
>>43752059>everything trans people say seems like you just ignore what we say, troll us, and try to breed resentment while pretending you are some noble moral warriorExactly. They do this all the time. I think that's because they're terrified of facing reality.
>>43752204it's like talking to my parents, they are always putting on a front, and you never really get to meet the actual them it's all about keeping up appearances and protecting your status, never about being honest or introspective
>>43752184>There is no right time Yes there is. It's pretty well known, if you take estrogen at the same time girls begin to experience the change, you'll change the same as you would if you were born your own sister. If you wait until you're an adult you don't get the same hormonal effect
>>43752200Wow, a tranny projecting onto other people and being competitive against his own projection, something never seen before, it's so much new and so not typical, not expected at all
>>43752232Not to be pedantic however that's the more effective time. Saying there is a right time implies saying there is a wrong time. That's just not true and anyone can transition at any age and still have good results. Not the best compared to when puberty has already affected secondary sexual traits, but good. Not to come down on you. It's so people lurking who might be on the fence don't feel hopeless.
>>43752258>effect on boysYou think I'm FTM, but I'm not
>>43752285Okay I meant the most practical time that does the most changes. I wouldn't go through hormone changes, unless I knew I would pass. I'm just assuming it would have to be before puberty
>>43752295I know you're male, man. You'll never be a woman.
>>43752295>You think I'm female, gotcha!Delusional prick. No one thinks you're female lol
>>43752318I'm not a mail man, I'm a beautician
>>43752342You can be in denial, whatever, this doesn't change reality
>>43752334Course got when I'm online I'm talking about it. I mean in public. Everyone assumes I'm female because I look like a woman. The reason I transitioned is because I was afraid to look like a man sI transitioned before I never became a man because I knew my boyfriend I'd never passed as a man
>>43752342package notice 4 u(ur male)
>>43752368Honey, I'm 100% woman to everybody who knows me in real lifel. Only on here where you don't see me and just my words. I wouldn't have transitioned, if I couldn't as a woman,cuz what good would have done me? The question you never can answer I was so proud of you
>>43752413I don't look like a male I use the women's toilets all over the world and nobody says a thing to me because I look totally like a genetic female
>>43752312I should still use the word effective myself as practical might still cause anxiety, but essentially yeah. We're on the same page. I transitioned regardless of others standards of passing. That will upset people due to optics, or because I won't be fuel for their spank bank, or whatever other reason they love to hate. I didn't do it for others. I did it for me to be me and your own reasons regardless of transitioning or not are just as valid.
>>43752390>>43752431Sure, deluded hon, sure
>>43752458t.
>>43752460Oh I can't say the same but I'm proud of you for doing it having the nerve. I transitioned a long time ago when men were supposed to be really masculine I couldn't live up to that masculine sex role image so it was only convenient for me to live as a woman.
>>43752470RadioShack does look like a woman. Just like an older homely woman
>>43752486um no that's a man even with the hairflap you can tell, irl it's gonna be way more obvious
>>43752463At least I wouldn't walk around dressing like a boy after taking HRT
>>43752499No that's radio and I know her. She doesn't have a hair flap. she's got a good hair and she looks like a normal everyday woman in her early 40s
>>43752476I don't think many men can live up to those often unrealistic expectations even after a whole life of trying. There's many reasons for someone to want to transition and if that's what worked for you is all what really matters. For me it was the cliche always a girl born in wrong body and beaten down because of it. I could've conformed and cope and fake it until I make it. Tried that for years. That just isn't me and I spent so long running and disassociating and people pleasing from the girl I am.
>>43752513Radiohon has a 100% maaaaale posture. Just look at that picture, even if you stripped it down to a stick figure in 3d space, it would read as male.
>>43752663No you wouldn't, neither of us would. If you didn't know her and you just saw her passing by on the street you would think she was a woman
>>43751964>they believe chromosomes cannot exert effects that create physical structures in a definable dimorphic pattern recognizable by othersShow us a study where those alledged effects have a statistically significant effect on appearance.Also, explain why 46 XX MtFs still look like men if they don't take HRT?
>>43752698xx males have female phenotypic traits, society refuses to accept that you can be intersex and just look uncanny and not 100% male or female
>>43752570Wre all different and we try to be the same in some ways. I came out I gay and I looked like a little gay boy. I was terrified of the straight place in high school and dropped out of high school and moved into the gay neighborhood in the city. I could never leave the city as a guy because I get bullied.As a girl I could go anywhere. I go to Redneck Party anywhere.
>>43752712>xx males have female phenotypic traitsLike?
>>43752698 x's and y's only exist in mathematics it's obviously bullshit
>>43752741Why are you replying to me? Go be a schizo somewhere else, chud
>>43752770I'm trying to get rid of the transphobic people
>>43752810The transphobic cis people, transphobic enby people, or transphobic trans people?
My favourite is>uhm yeah intersex people exist so i am a woman because i watched a lot of pornThose are so cool
>>43752851All of them. I think it's really weird how some people would transition and not to socially transition, showing who they really are to the world. I don't think it makes them less transgender I think it makes them different, it's all I can really say
>>43752916What about the ones who never watch porn? I've never got into it cuz I never understood what was cool about it
I don't care what my chromosomes are.I am what people call me and people call me a woman.
>>43753087people lie, they are lying to you, and you want them to lie, that's a toxic dynamic and part of why I want transgenderism eliminated from society
>>43753096? Why would they lie to me though. I live in a deeply conservative town.
>>43753101Iran is deeply conservative and they love lying to gay men and calling them she after chopping off their balls. Cuz it's a way to humiliate you + you expect it and would throw an autistic tantrum and get them in trouble if they didn't.
>>43753109I don't get your point at all
>>43753096What difference does it make? If they're not threatening you or coming over to reach you up what difference does it make? This is the question you can never answer. ...? huhMeanwhile go put on your boy costume
>>43753096Wtf is "transgenderism"?
>>43753087no one will ever call me a woman
>>43753678the belief that gays can become straight through castration
>>43747765>Cissies name us mean things>Other Cissies: thats MEAN dont call them that ):< >Cissies name us again>Other cissies: thAtS uNScIenTiFiC>Cissies name use something vague to fit enbies in and be accurate:>Other cissies: YOURE JUST MAKING UP WORDS NOW.It doesnt fucking matter we dont care. Im taking hormones and looking pretty your debate is tired
>>43753678it means trannyism, but said in a more polite way
>>43753755You guys are the sissies. Stop projecting a little for a change, can you do that?
>>4375374290% of trannies are weird transbians. Your argument doesn't make any sense.>>43754013Wtf is trannyism?
>>43754013I like it because it demonstrates transgender people are part of a religion, and all share the same fundamentalist, unquestionable beliefs about sexuality, gender, and magical transformative powers ascribed to castration.
>>43754284no it doesn't, it just claims thatyou can claim whatever you want, it doesn't prove anything gincel, other than that you're obsessed
>>43753742This never happens . Most trannies get boned over girls
>>43754284Yes, pretty much this
>>43754046No im a leo
>>43754284>it demonstrates transgender people are part of a religion, and all share the same fundamentalist, unquestionable beliefs about sexuality, gender, and magical transformative powers ascribed to castrationHow does a word you made up "demonstrate" anything, let alone your schizo rant?
>>43754723because it ascribes transgenderism as akin to an ideology, a set of political beliefs like communism where a herd of monkeys shares a set of common beliefs to live by
>>43754735See >>43753678 and actually answer the question this time.
>>43754697Are you saying you're a narcissistic sissy? Aren't you all?
>>43754785Im saying my mock eclipses the sun and god will not save you from the deluge
>>43754795You're saying you're absolutely insane lol
>>43754821Lol jessica you're such a crackhead
>>43754752The belief that by castrating someone you can make them go from belonging to the social category "gay" to the social category of "straight". All trans people share this belief, making it an "ism".
>>43754752>>43754904Trannies wanna believe a castrated male is a famale
>>43754904You clearly have some kind of mental illness and probably some trauma from homophobia in your past, gincel. Why you choose to take it out on trannies is beyond me
>>43754904>>43754920why did you ignore me before, gincel?
>>43754920What do you mean by castrated?
>>43754930Who is gincel? You're confounding me with someone else. >>43754940Chemichal castration and/or physical castration.
>>43754940Couldn't you browse it yourself? Castration is any action, surgical, chemical, or otherwise, that disables the function of testes in males: the male gonad. A castrated male is a male whose testicles have been removed (orchiectomy) or rendered completely non-functional. This procedure radically lowers testosterone levels, bringing profound physiological, psychological, and historical consequences. Physical Changes: Causes sexual organs to shrink, sperm production to stop, and a severe reduction in sex drive (libido). It can also lead to gynecomastia (breast tissue growth) and increased susceptibility to osteoporosis due to low hormone levels.
