>>43768510
i have been on for 3 years and have had 0 changes in sexuality stop the larp for the love of god

>>43768510
eh who cares?
do what you want with your body
Dont fall for the label mafia
just do what you want regardless of anything

>>43768531
Then what could cause this? Im serious, the timing matches up with after I started HRT
>>43768539
I still havent told people I know online but I have nobody irl to talk with so Im asking here as to if I should continue
I guess yours is an answer but it amounts to barely anything

>>43768510
why would you even start hrt??

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>>43768681
>Be me
>Be short manlet
>Foid hypergamy all time high
>Have no friends all my life
>Have no sex or physical touch
>Be khhv truecel
>Notice how women always get preferential treatment
>Notice how everyone loves women
>Be radicalised
>Finish HS
>Still manlet
>Still lonely
>Still butt of the joke
>Depressed
>University goes on now
>All I did between assignments and exams was jerk myself off and play vidya
>No social life, no fun, still khhv
>During the year, notice a tranny on campus
>People like it, seems to live a normal life
>I devise plan to trick my psych and endo to give me HRT
>Nearing the end of the semester (so 2 months ago), finally start
>Unfortunately still no social life
>Be me, now 20
>Chud with small breasts
>No longer have sexual urges to jerk off or to want to fuck foids
>Like men sexually and romantically, apparently
>Still khhv
My journey summed up

>>43768510
>>43768749
What lack of pussy does to a mf
>t. had plenty of sex and pussy, trooned out anyways

>>43768764
You dont need to brag to the hungry

Keep going. Sexual urges will come back in a few months and you will want a boyfriend.
The love of men is better anyways. Gl
t. incel to tranny pipeline "victim"

>>43768775
Wasn't trying to brag. Was just trying to offer support by essentially saying that even if OP had gotten pussy he would probably have trooned out anyways and that he should keep going. At least OP won't have a decade or two of repressing via masculinitycoping like I did

>>43768801
How did your transition life go
I need to know

>>43768749
Chud to foid pipeline we love to see it
Now go get a husband and make 2.5 kids

>>43768837
I am getting married to my bf. So overall pretty well.
The first 2 years did suck tho. Bigly. After I made peace with myself, I took transmaxxing seriously and with discipline and patience I started making some money too and surgerymaxxed.
Was it worth it? Hell yeah! Was it easy? Nope. It was hard but would do it again.

>>43768858
What surgeries did you get? Just standard FFS + SRS?

Go to the gym to grow your ass and get into a hobby like sewing before you become an AGP freakhon
Remember:
>attractive = HSTS
>commie nerd gooner = AGP

>>43768863
Ffs, rib remodelling, ba and im on an srs waitlist.
Left srs for last because i wanted to be secure financially for the long recovery

>>43768846
Half a kid lol wtf
>>43768858
What moneymaking method did you do? Im not American however unlike most of this website
>>43768873
My life would be so much better if I end up attractive

>>43768879
I'm on a similar path rn but trading BA for clavicles (18" bideltoid moment). FFS is ideally next year and I'm actually in insurance negotiations for the body stuff (not optimistic tho) rn.

Though I also need like a tummy tuck for loose skin.

>>43768881
Im not american either. I did some programming in a globo corp and now i do HR lol, but i am stealth atp
I did my best to just look like a regular woman. not particularly attractive but not particularly ugly either. im the most conformist unremarkable woman.

>>43768906
Sounds normal
I dont know what I expected

>>43768916
It was my only chance out of perpetual virginity since i am small height and had light puberty. Had to psyop myself into it tho. Im a "fake" troon, not 'tru'

>>43768881
2.5 kids is an expression that basically means "has an average nuclear family."

>>43768555
>Then what could cause this? Im serious, the timing matches up with after I started HRT
Well i guess you only liked women because you were horny...now, without your lust, you show your true colors

>>43768927
>since i am small height and had light puberty
Same, actually, I dont even have facial hair
I dont exactly understand this shit but my random genetics determined me to be a truecel and now I got myself into these drugs
Life works in strange ways, and its unfair to me, I want it to be better for me

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>>43768937
I know but saying 0,5 of a kid is always funny to me
>>43768945
>Being a faggot all along
Oh brother

>>43768957
>Life works in strange ways, and its unfair to me, I want it to be better for me

Life isn't fair. It just is. The sooner you let go of the attachment to fairness the more content you will be

>>43768971
King Solomon or 1 dog = 0.5 children who knows

>>43768975
How was your transition journey outside the surgeries

>>43768957
nona you are responding to
>its unfair to me
the other nona is right. fairness is a fiction

>>43769149
I haven't had any surgeries because I'm too poor/in debt
I manmode so I don't get fired because of previously stated economic instability. 2.5 years HRT
Going pretty well t b hon all things considered

>>43768510
You don't like tall men
You like handsome men with hunter facial features who have hair on their head and who happen to be tall too

>>43769205
Sorry Im lost who is now who I lost the plot
>>43769365
Being broke sucks, whats your job
>>43769373
Are you trying to outincel the truecel in the thread? If so its not working

>>43768749
Need to grope someone like this and make them sit on my lap and make them verbally admit their life as a man is over

>>43769460
>being broke sucks, whats your job

See >>43763709. I'm close to being debt free though

>>43769460
>Sorry Im lost who is now who I lost the plot
I am the following:
>>43768906
and
>>43768858
and
>>43768801
At some point someone replied to you without saying nta (not that anon) and that created confusion. I tried to clear it up by adding "nona you are responding to" but ig it didnt work, lol
hugs
Ps: fuck this filter that keeps flaghing a list as spam

>>43769716
Thats gay
>>43769999
How did you meet the guy

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>>43770425
>That's gay

I'm not the one growing boobs, woman

>>43770791
Youre a real funny one, arent you

>>43770425
>How did you meet the guy
At an IRL event
turns out being sociable as a mid woman is easier. who knew, lol

>>43768510
Im a few months ahead of you on hrt and age and a cis dude too

>stop my urges to need to jerk off
It'll come back a bit, but if you only did it out of boredom you might struggle, I do it for the love of the game and havent had issues

>visible but small breast growth
Normal I think, my indomitable male spirit stopped this from happening to me, but as long as you're okay with having atleast small boobs if you stay on hrt

>turned my sexuality from liking big breasts to liking tall men

Now, from my experience I have noticed when horny the occasional image of being in a feminine body getting railed did occur which I think is to do with hrt because it never happened before, BUT If you lean into it, its probably indicative of something deeper you'll have to figure out for yourself, but I just thought I was odd for a sec and moved on.

>Because I feel like stopping would be a waste but I dont identify as a tranny either

Are you absolutely confident in being a man regardless of what hrt does to you?
I'd say if you are faltering on that this early, you should really try and introspect a bit and think who want be in the future compared to who you've been in the past, and if you're strangley scared to stop hrt, it could be indicative of something deeper, but thats for you figure out for yourself.

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>>43772590
>only did it out of boredom you might struggle
I did it out of boredom and I would sometimes do it thrice a day and I hated it but did it because I had nothing else and felt alone
>you're okay with having atleast small boobs if you stay on hrt
Honestly I dont know how far or how fast growth happens but Ive been consistent with my doge, thats apparently also on the higher end according to hrtgen, and I noticed changes pretty quickly
>being in a feminine body getting railed did occur which I think is to do with hrt because it never happened before, BUT If you lean into it, its probably indicative of something deeper you'll have to figure out for yourself
I already had a few experiences of feeling the need of being railed sexually and it was a little intense but beyond thinking it would be nice to have a guy do it, I didnt really focus on myself or how I look in those situations, idk how to word it but it also wasnt a horny urge of jerking off either rather something in my stomach its weird
>who you want to be in the future
I would rather at least look like a woman than be a manlet khhv chud forever even if I dont do any tranny pronoun stuff

>>43768749
You didn't even try to get with a woman, you just said
>nah its over
and trooned.
Wow. Amazing.

>>43773111
>I didnt really focus on myself or how I look in those situations, idk how to word it but it also wasnt a horny urge of jerking off either rather something in my stomach its weird
Damn, not even AGP. A straight up androphile, no sissy shit.

>>43773111
>also on the higher end according to hrtgen, and I noticed changes pretty quickly
If you havent got one booked id look at getting some bloodwork done over the next few weeks, I waited to my first results back until a couple weeks ago and my levels are 4 Times that of feminising hrt on my dose, so better be safe than sorry
>, idk how to word it but it also wasnt a horny urge of jerking off either rather something in my stomach its weird

>>>>43764818

May be related if you are interested

>I would rather at least look like a woman than be a manlet khhv chud forever even if I dont do any tranny pronoun stuff

Thats probably fine for now, but keep in mind youll likely have to confront this one day if you carry on

>>43773273
>You didn't even try to get with a woman, you just said
>>nah its over
>and trooned.
>Wow. Amazing.
I noticed I never had a chance for a relationship, the only time I tried asking a girl out was in high school and she said Im too shy and then laughed it off
>>43773302
>Damn, not even AGP. A straight up androphile, no sissy shit.
Elaborate? I dont like sissies though they always seemed gross to me like trannies
>>43773337
>levels are 4 Times that of feminising hrt on my dose, so better be safe than sorry
I dont DIY so I would have to get my bloodwork through official means unless what
>>>>>43764818 #
>May be related if you are interested
Too long to read through and I dont see the relevance
>Thats probably fine for now, but keep in mind youll likely have to confront this one day if you carry on
I pretend to my doctors there who ask me if I already have a chosen name or pronouns but thats the extent of it

>>43773400
>Elaborate
Some trannies are very narcissistic and only focus on themselves, even in their sexual fantasies. You not doing that and instead feeling shit (not literally) in your stomach is like exact opposite of that.

>>43773400
NTA but i get butterflies when I talk to dominant guys or have taller guys give me attention. Its basically your new horny. It started within the last 6 months for me. I get it whenever I read BL and I'm addicted now.

>>43773439
So is that good or bad
I know AGP is bad but this doesnt mean much to me given I dont frequent this board to know
>>43773446
I never had anyone give me attention yet or even at all
Im practically invisible

>>43773490
Who cares if it's good or bad, that's up to you to decide.
>AGP is le bad
According to who? Who cares even. Just enjoy things

>>43773523
>According to who?
Everyone

>>43773555
But not the guy that actually introduced the term

>>43773523
>Who cares if it's good or bad, that's up to you to decide.
>>AGP is le bad
>According to who? Who cares even. Just enjoy things
Well why bring it up? Now I dont get your point at all and its relation to androphilia

>>43773683
Just an observation. You are a very interesting person (I say that sincerely).

I want a failed male Incel chud gf to breed

>>43773732
I see

>>43776263
Thats gay

>>43768749
I'm like this except self.aware enough not to go on estrogen

>>43779093
you're not self aware, you're self harming

>>43768927
have you made any progress on "soul passing"? with mef or otherwise

I've seen a lot of short men/incels transition and in every case it seems to have considerably improved their lives. it takes a while though, stick with it.

>>43779171
Nuh uh

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>>43779189
How much did it improve life, tell me

>>43779172
yes. but it's a slow process
cisf friends help a lot socially and mef helps sexually
the two are much more intertwined than i thought. the process is enjoyable tho

>>43779206
- much easier to get a guy as a girl. and they'll treat you better as a partner
- easier social life, people are more comfortable around you and will be more friendly
- people doing little kindnesses for you like holding doors etc
- no longer have the societal expectations and pressures to achieve as a male - you're only really expected to eventually be a wife and possibly a mother
of course this will all fall into place once you start to pass with long term hrt and possibly surgeries.

>>43779206
nta but the exact same women who wouldnt even acknowledge me when i said hello wanted to be my friend and have me at their events after my voice clicked and ffs healed
also what >>43779288 says

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>>43779288
>- much easier to get a guy as a girl. and they'll treat you better as a partner
I just realised but since I never had a relationship I dont know how I could even please a woman in a relationship and she would cheat on me likely so instead being the one taken care of sounds easier
>- no longer have the societal expectations and pressures to achieve as a male - you're only really expected to eventually be a wife and possibly a mother
This sounds easy, do you have anything anecdotal
>- people doing little kindnesses for you like holding doors etc
I thought this was a lie so far because nobody ever did anything good for me as a man
>>43779302
Voice clicked?
Anyway I do think it will be easier for me to live like this while loving men as it turns out I do than women because theyve been evil to me and because I dont have attraction to women anymore
But Im still a khhv and no social life

>>43779347
I think I need a social life
Being a khhv chud ruined me and I know being trans gives a social life and apparently everyone here says so too, and being short might help as a woman

>>43779347
even if you don't have a social life now, once you get into a relationship with a man you can be friends with everyone he knows--just be outgoing and confident. they will think "well if he loves her, then she must be a good person" and you can start to expand your female friend group. and being around a lot of girls will help with your social passing as you learn how they act - you'll be able to feminize your mannerisms, body language and behavior based on them.

>>43779392
That seems true but Im pretty shy so I dont know how to start conversations or keep them going
On another note I just randomly thought up, I never actually told my family anything and I rely on them for money but I dont want to stop this now I dont want to go back to being invisible and alone

>>43779347
>Voice clicked?
months of voice training seemed to be going nowhere and then it suddenly "clicked" and haven't been assumed male ever since, voicewise

>>43768510
keep going and also working on yourself and improving your life and you will be hot and happy

>>43779445
would your parents be ok with your transition?

>>43779529
Is it that important
>>43779844
Unsure but seemingly likely not really

>>43779923
>Is it that important
To me, or more precise to the ppl around me, it was
maybe you're luckier. some trannies have pleasant voices naturally. i wasnt that lucky and still looking into vfs to lock in

>>43780041
My voice isnt super deep but it does sound boyish

>>43768749
>>43768510
didn't even attempt to bag a girl, this jit just said "nah it's over" and trooned
what a specimen

>>43780393
Why is another person saying the exact same thing

>>43780393
idk it seems very much over before it even started, no hope situation. hrt at this age actually seems like a smart idea