take a look at my ftm top boyfriend bro..
im going to jail

>>44604180
Beat her for being a disgusting rapebeast who likes PIV then make her give you head until you cum and let her know that’s the only type of sex available until she makes you cum as many times as she has using the rapestick for PIV.

>>44604180
oral

>>44604202
What? i dont get this comment

>>44604219
do you ever think about the shit you type before hitting post or do you just mash your keyboard furiously while drooling over yourself you fucking moron

>>44604219
Wtf. Its not her fault that she doesnt have a vagina yet. God forbid a girl enjoying herself. I dont mind her liking it, its just a bit boring for me. And she said so herself she prefers getting penetrated.

>>44604180
Frot

>>44604241
yeah this seems like the obvious answer

>>44604241
I have tried giving her oral and i think she liked that as she came in my mouth no warning. she has given me oral but she always quits kind of fast. idk why tho. my hygiene is fine. my ex used to say her neck started to hurt. but like cmon my jaw too but then you just tell urself to not be a pussy and keep going. but idk it makes me kinda insecure and i dont want her to do anything she doesnt like.

Should i tell her to keep going then or something? idk, knowing someone does something for me against their will turns me off. i cant fully relax and enjoy the experience if i know she doesnt enjoy giving me head

>>44604265
we tried that but then she always kind of wants to 'skip that' and put it in. also i shave to not sweat and smell down there, but then it feels prickly and unpleasant for her.

>>44604264
Ok sorry that was mean but yeah have her give you oral.
Also have you thought about metoidoplasty it seems to have a lot better results and doesn’t require shredding your arm up

>>44604300
I don't understand why you're asking us for advice if all she wants to do is top you

>>44604301
ive read about it yes. but sorry, to me it just looks like a clit with a big ballsack (like results can look fine, but always an uber unusable micropenis). cant really use that for sex. If id get bottom surgery itd be to actually use and feel it.

>>44604326
No? she also wants to bottom. and shes also in some ways a bit of a kinkster. Im kind of just looking for a way it can be enjoyable fur us both. i thaught maybe some other st4t couples know a way strapping can feel enjoyable for both parties

>>44604180
Have you tried to give her a prostate orgasm with your fingers ?

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>>44604180
You should definitely be able to feel PiV, that's weird. Have you tried prosthetics marketed to trans men? They make ones with a hole in them for your "clit", although if you're still calling it that I imagine you're not on test and don't have a big enough one.

>>44604264
If she really preferred getting penetrated, she wouldn't be using her rapestick, pooner

>>44604370
not yet, as when i wanted to go in there with my fingers she seemed to kind of not like that idea? She just cleaned up, but i think she was still afraid of there somthing being in there or something.

But yeah still, that would be me only pleasuring her. As mentally, pleasing a butthole is not that much of a turn on for me. like its aight but it grosses me out a little bit if im being honest. ill gladly do it for her if she likes that tho.

however, fingering a vagina does turn me on, so its a good thing for me shes getting surgery. but im not sure if ill enjoy surgery vag as i have no experience with that. but i hope i do!

>>44604397
idk i only feel it if shes going like REAL hard and its like fully in. i think my inner g spot is just located really deep.

Like i do feel it, but it doesnt feel particulary god or anything. Its a weak feeling and doesnt feel hot or anything. it just like grazing an arm or somthing, nothing special.

i havent tried those prosthetics yet. are there affordable ones? cause i looked for those ones but i saw price ranges between 200 and 2000 and im fucking broke rn, and i find 200 for a toy i might not like and never use again a bit much.

i call my genitals what they are as thats what they are. i find calling trans genitals ''tdick' or 'boydick' or 'boyholes' or 'girldick' 'girlclit' or whatever very cringy and idk it just seems kind of weird and porn-y to me. you can have ur preferences, and i can have mine.

i have been fully (expept bottom surgery) transitioned for a loooong time.

>>44604406
you sound like a virgin or someone without an actual sex life in a relationship.

>>44604395
Uh well good for you that you and ur top boyfriend are in a happy relationship? Id be a top too if i knew what equipment to use? u have tips or nah?

Pouring one out for another mtf who comptops afabs

We're safe men nona :^)

>>44604456
I'm not the one getting fucked like a woman

>>44604561
wtf is comptop?
also i literally said we both dont prefer piv and are looking for alternatives.

also its her rushing to piv and coming, and me never coming. why are u talking like im abusing her or something. wtf.

you calling her a man is disgusting and clearly UR point of view.

>>44604613
'blahblah 4chan incel virgin edgy teen'

mtf here in similar situation with my partner except I'm not into topping at all. and like i actually physically can't anyway because of atrophy
yea the strapless dildos are a joke
my partner at least enjoys topping me with a realistic strap because they find it very gender affirming. my partner gets dysphoric from fingering or oral tho, so i kinda don't know what to do to please him in return. they gave up tryna get me to piv at least. i feel like preop t4t sex just kinda sucks tbdesu, like i have the wrong sexual organs and also it's broken. i see people saying t4t sex is good but honestly idk what they mean

maybe try a softer/more realistic dildo? my partner really likes the one where he squeezes the balls and cums on me.lol. and the fact it's flexible feels waaaay better for me than some rigid stick poking me

>>44604219
only based post here
people like you and your partner is why people are transphobic
you're literally a cis straight couple except you both microdose hormones
make sure your partners 50mg Spiro actually suppresses their t

>>44604743
I think the people who enjoy it are either piv enjoyers, or stone top ftms (those actually dont exist theyre just dysphoric, ashamed and coping and eventually fall out of that phase. not receiving anything isnt enjoyable obviously lmfao) with mtfs that dont give a fuck about their ftm bf coping and never getting pleasure.

st4t sex is very hard to make it work if u both want to feel pleasure and do not enjoy piv/ or want surgery. phalloplasty cant get hard enough for asshole or surgery pussy.

Just informing you, him saying he enjoys it means he likes pleasuring you and it relieves dysphoria. sexually, he feels nothing. strapping gives absolutely 0 sensation.

If hes not going to be open for oral or fingers, and u (understandably) dont want to try piv u guys probably are not going to last. esp if he is (or gets) on T.

maybe you can convince him to atleast try? ive noticed with transwoman when they want o either orally or please you with their fingers they always aim for the hole. dont do that, basically none of us like that. go for the clit and treat it like a dick, esp if hes on t. (for some its not only affirming, but also a clit on t works different and the same stimulation as on a clit doesnt work).

stroke the foreskin like u would on a D. do it slowely, and take ur time. 5 minutes wont be enoug. wet also feels better. like use lube or spit or something.

sorry gave advice u didnt ask for haha, but its something i think a lot of us would want yall to know. every time i had sex with a transwoman and she just immediately probed her fingers in i went like OW and WTF. last place ur fingers should be on with a ftm lol. only when asked.


ive tried a soft and realistic one before. but the problem with that was that only she liked it and i didnt feel anything haha. like im fine with doing that once in a while for her, but im looking for something that pleases us both. being a living dildo for her makes me feel submissive cucked and thus dysphoric

>>44604932
* i didnt mean stone tops i meant touch me nots haha got confued with the teminolagy for a sec oops. and with receiving i meant like hands and stuff not piv

>>44604932
thank you anon for the absolute baller knowledge. do you think st4t is possible then? like it can be done you just gotta know how?

>>44604897
the real reason people hate transpeople are bigot fugly 4chan rapists like lilly tino.

My gf is on the vaginoplasty waiting list and will get surgery in about a year. shes fully transitioned, and was one of those that started at like 8 years old with coming out.

im also fully (exept bottomsurgery) transitioned for years. I have a beard. and no im not fat or look poly

our hormones are fine.

considering ur worldview is so narrowminded and u seem to not have any experience/ know what ur talking about. Im gonna assume ur a depressed virgin blaming anyone but urself for ur miserable life.

go outside. literally. ur sounding exactly like the cis people that judge us for no reason and saying all of us are this or that. 95% of trans ppl outside of the internet are normal lmfao.

happy st4t couples that both want pleasure are normal lmfao. if u think their not ur the weird one.

I hate judgmental chudcel trannies. like ur ruining ur life experience for urself fr

>>44604982
sorry

idk, i think it can be possible. ive seen like a couple once where i know the guy isnt a touch me not and they also didnt seem like the piv type. but i wasnt close to any of them so obviously i didnt ask "how do yall fuck" lmfao. I was wondering it tho.

but yeah no clue how people do it. maybe with kink stuff or something. or vibrators. im just hoping there is a strap that actually feels good for both desu

>>44604180
I’m ftm and have a similar experience with masturbation, I’m a gigavirgin though, so I decided to volcel cope, is that the method if I would rather kill myself than do piv

>>44605087
u on T yet? cause trust me u WILL want to fuck eventually. esp when u have a gf showing u her titties. ur drive will show up.

you dont have to do piv. we must hold on and believe theres another way. also from one bro to another, piv is not that good. stg porn is so fucking fake man. you can barely feel it. ur missing out on nothing.

>>44604932
anon im not some virgin lol. you're acting like we have never talked about our likes/dislikes... but ig other people might find your info useful, but also he's not you and so i think maybe you're projecting your personal preferences a lil too hard.

yea, when i gave him oral i would basically act like im giving a guy head. he enjoyed it but eventually he said it started making him too dysphoric because he really just strongly felt the missing penis and it got too overwhelming

he pressures me to let him top me all the time. he says he enjoys it more than anything else sexually because i look so hot while he's doing it and he doesn't feel dysphoric. so i don't think you're right about him. we've been together 4 years too. i think he just needs to have a dick to feel fulfilled sexually tho, and srs is a long ways off financially for us rn

>>44604180
i've tried picrel as a mtf postie but had the same experience
i don't cum from piv much either we just eat me out or use vibrators. i cum really hard and a lot with a thrusting dildo

>>44604180
More outercourse, more hand stuff.
PIV only to wrap it up.
Also it's crazy you need 30 mins to cum alone. I can cum in a minute with a small vibrator.

>>44604180
OK what what does st mean

>>44606718
st means straight.
>>44604180
Thanks for the post OP I've always wondered how hetero sex would work between two trans people. I always figured the guy would just orgasm really quickly because of the T.
I used a vibrator that has a sort of protrusion with bunny ears that lay on the clit, maybe there's a strapon version of that you can try?
That way you can do piv with your gf once she gets srs and you get clitoral stimulation as well.
Nevertheless it sounds like a pretty rough situation, I really hope they figure out how to
make the ftm srs better soon to help all you guys out :(

>>44605142
I’m two years T, I jack off thrice a day my sex drive is definitely there I just have no interest in having sex because I have no dick, and I have had women interested in me, but I hate romantic/sexual social rituals and it doesn’t seem worth it if I don’t have a dick

>>44607060
this seems really sad imaging a guy with no pp

>>44604449
>it doesnt feel particulary good or anything
Judging from how you masturbate it sounds like you definitely should increase the foreplay before you fuck. Maybe you need about 30 min of foreplay.

Also have you tried other toys that stimulate the clit? I often use wand for my clit when I do PIV and that works wonders.

I'd also say don't give up! I wasn't even able to cum until I was well into my twenties and now I have a great sex life so there is hope!

>>44604180
I feel like st4t is doomed to fail. I'm with my bf for 3 years but I think we're both miserable. I just dont want to hurt him.

>>44607284
I dont like using a wand, it overstimulates me within like 3 seconds and it makes me feel like i need to pee. Like its so overstimulating it actually hurts. I need a slow and steady way

I wouldnt mind longer foreplay indeed.

>>44607380
Im happy with my gf and I have never had such a great gf before. Also compared to my exes she and i are sexually the most compatible.

Sex is just difficult in general, even for cis couples. Being trans and not having the right equipment just makes it a tad harder.

If ur so miserable just break up. Maybe hes thinking the exact same as u and just doesnt want to hurt u. Do you want to be pity dated?

You two just arent compatible

>>44607401
Can't you just do endless foreplay until you orgasm?
I think finding a guy that loves long foreplay sessions is like winning the jackpot!
I'm sure your girlfriend wouldn't mind

>>44607401
Don't use a wand then, but try vibrators. You can get smaller and more gentle ones.

>>44607401
Well it doesn't have to be a wand specifically. If you need lower key vibration there are certainly toys for that too!

Definitely recommend longer foreplay though, the start up time for a pussy can just be slower and it really helps sensation wise. Maybe there are some kinks you can explore too that play into extended foreplay.

>>44607437
True, but he's just super insecure about himself and I worry that I'm the only thing keeping him from doing something stupid. He bemoans not having a dick daily and constantly says that he can never satisfy a woman, let alone me. I want him to be happy with or without me, but right now I'm scared for his mental health.
Im glad that you're happy with your gf, I just lament how mine turned out.

>>44607485
I mean id love to, but like if shed actually want mw to come the foreplay would hve to be focussed on me getting off, so shed basically have to rub me or use her mouth constantly for atleast 30 mins straight no interruption. I dont think shed enjoy that, shed probably be bored.

But yeah id absolutely love that! I prefer 'foreplay' anyways. I dont mind taking my time with her either. With my ex sometimes i literally played with her for 3 hours straight. Shed get really tired haha

>>44607497
Are there also less intense wands? I do like that you can put the whole thing on it

>>44607547
Its not like im tryna rub it in ur face, im tryna say like, there can be someone else for u out there (st4t) that you ARE compatible with. Dont waste ur time. If he gets worse after you leaving, so be it. Ur not his caretaker.

And who knows, maybe hell get better after breaking up. Some times people need time alone to heal

>>44607579
I wouldn't know, I don't have many toys. Also, I'm sure there are straps with vibrators that aren't inserted inside of you. Unfortunately you should ask reddit.
>>44607565
This is not a hard ask. Just ask her to pay more attention to you.

This board isn't for straight couples that want to feel gender special. The entire rest of the Internet is for you, nona

>>44604180
Just do oral, bdsm, and use toys on her. What’s so complicated? Are neither of you kinky?

>>44607945
She could also use a stroker on you or jerk you off while kissing. That is peak.

>>44607945
>On her
His gf seems plenty satisfied.

>>44607809
Go cry this is an lgbT board. Ur tranny hating ahh can leave and create ur own board, or even simpler, but that may require to much of ur brain power, scroll.

>>44607945
She is but im more vanilla. The whole dom and sub shit feels like a ceinge act to me. I like humiliatinh her a lil from time to time, i am a bit of a sadist. Like im into the basic mild avarage tranny shit. But i prefer only 20% of the time, the rest normal. I think shed want kinky sex 100% of the time.

>>44607958
Never heard of a stroker. What is that?

She tried using a statisfier on me but got bored after like 5 mins. She also didnt like using a vibrator together. She wanted to move to piv after like 5 mins

>>44608462
A stroker is like a fleshlight for ftms. Do some research on some sex toys that target FtMs, not just strapless straps. Sounds like your gf is getting all the fun here.

>>44607964
Yeah that exactly. Im nit asking how to please her, i know exactly what she wants and likes. But that just iant working for me. I want something we both enjoy.

Like dw she comes about 2-4 times every time we fuck, and we fuck a lot.

>>44604180
>>>/r/

>>44608491
?

>>44608490
>Like dw she comes about 2-4 times every time we fuck, and we fuck a lot.
Jeez.
Tell her to fucking pay attention to you. That is more important than toys. If she can't handle touching you for 20-30 minutes without getting her dick wet, she's greedy.

>>44608516
Also, does she not touch your dick when she fucks you? That makes it much better.

>>44608516
Aight ill try to ask. Hope she wont get turned off

>>44608530
>Ew ew ew I hate making my partner cum I hate touching my boyfriend yawn
This is so grim.

>>44608524
Nope, sadly she doesnt. She just fucks me. We kiss alot. And she always tries some various tempos and intensitys, But thats it. She almost never pleases me beforehand either now that i think about it. And when she does its like one minute and often not on the right spot lol. Luckily i get wet very easily otherwise id be in pain damn

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>>44608568
Holy Shit.
How long have you been together?

>>44608543
She cant really help being bored quickly, she has adhd. Like really bad adhd

>>44608586
We have been together quiete a while, but i didnt want to have sex yet before i had topsurgery. So weve only had sex a couple of timed

>>44608586
You're dating a fucking child what the fuck. Having adhd does not mean you can't touch your partner. She just doesn't Like it. You should have a serious conversation about this.

>>44608488
wait does it work on regular women too?

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>>44608586
Go back to the bald man with glasses site and kys

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>>44608598
Oh nevermind. You made it sound like you've been fucking for at least a year. Just tell her your needs. Stop getting plapped if you don't even like it. Also, there are softer dildos, and you can finger her.

>>44608605
Not really. They're designed for fat clits that can can penetrate small soft holes.

>>44608622
omg i need to meet a ftm

>>44608676
Do it. Don't let the gayden stereotype scare you. The vast majority of FtMs are bisexual.

>>44608410
Yeah it's for Trannies, cishet foid

>>44608462
Every one of your replies is just your gf loves sticking her dick in you and doesn't consider your needs at all. We can't help with that

>>44608609
What even is that site? Idk all ur memes i dont use this site. U mean the orange app? The only reason im not on that app is bc i know shes on there

>>44608610
Weve been fucking for a few months. But werw long distance, so only when shes at my place we fuck like 3 times a day or something. Shes been here about 7 times. As ive said before weve tried softer ones already, and she doesnt want to get fingered.

>>44608703
'Im an incel transbian hon, and i am mad at st4t people finding love!!! Why cant i find my diaper loving puppygirl woof woof i want to start a communist riot together!!! Were the queerest of queers and deserve to win the queer space lesbian princes worldcup!!'

This is why everyone hates transbians keys

>>44608715
No? Im going to maybe try a ftm prosthetic, and see if i can find a low intensity wand. Some people gave really helpfull advice.

>>44608745
Why doesn't she want to get fingered..
Is she just a top
Good luck to you. I was thinking this was a pretty terrible situation, but you're both still working things out, it's all pretty new. Just communicate some more, if she isn't into it then don't put up with boring sex for eons just to keep her happy.

>>44608777
Btw, "prosthetics" are mostly made to look as realistic as possible and are very expensive because of it. Your best bet is just to get a strap that has a vibrator for your dick, some even have holes in them. Again do some research.

>>44608808
Idk i didnt ask. I think she was scared she maybe hadnt cleaned well enough or something. I didnt want to make things awkward so ibjust went on with on with someting else.

How can i communicate it with her in a way that doesnt hurt her? I feel like saying; "hey, idk if you noticed, but ive never come. Could you maybe touch my clit for 30 mins every time we do something?, also i feel like you like piv cause u rush to it and come everytime even tho you say you dont like it. But i dont really like it cause i cant feel anything bc ur dick is too short. Im fine with doing it for u tho, but im gonna need the clit stimulation" is a lil blunt.

>>44608771
Kek I'm a man. Penis-in-vagina is as cishet as it gets, sister

>>44608871
That's not blunt at all.
>I really want to cum with you. Getting fucked doesn't really do it for me. Of course I still enjoy it because it's you, but I really want my dick touched, I want to take things a little slower so I can enjoy it more. I'm sure you'll enjoy it too. Could you touch me for a while before you fuck me, or at least touch my dick while you fuck me?
Maybe don't call her dick small XD Just make it clear you don't think poorly of her, you just want more. You've done a lot for her and she knows you aren't bored when you do things to her.

>>44608883
Suprise suprise arson, transitioning isnt about sex. You dont transition bevause of ur sexual preferences. Thats why gay trannies exist in the first place. Ur logic is the same as cis tranny haters. U should know that.

Also acting like an edgy bitchy jackass doesnt make u look more like a man. It makes u look more like a bitch. Grow tf up

>>44608889
Hmm ill try something along the lines of that, thx

>>44608902
Topkek
>fuck off hon (man) this is why no one likes transbians
>"I'm a man"
>You're actually a bitch YWNBAM!!!

I know trans men are gay bottoms sometimes and trans women are gay tops sometimes, sperg. Getting fucked in your rapehole is something only women do.

>>44608968
Why are you so raped

>>44604180
OK anoj Nobody has asked this question yet but I think it's important. How big is your pp? I'm less than a year on T so I don't know how much it keeps growing after the first year, but if it's like 2 inches+, you should have SOMETHING you can work with and maaaayybe try to penetrate if you're really lucky, but I don't count on it. It does make things a little different when it comes to oral/hand stuff though because you have more surface area.
From what Im seeing the issue is that you're not getting enough stimulation on the pp/clit and she gets bored easily and wants to stick it in.
Honestly I think the best thing would be to talk to her about what would work for both of you in the bedroom + More foreplay like other people have said here.

But I get the not wanting bottom surgery. They discovered the skenes gland like, what, a few decades ago? and the bartholins gland even later than that. I don't trust a surgeon not to fuck up my prostate/cowpers gland homologues while rearranging my crotch.
I s2g everyone says "Oh you don't know if you will be able to do XYZ when you get bottom surgery ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" That's because the surgeons DONT CARE about ANYTHING and theyre just willing to sever your shit like its an underground gas line and they're a shitty construction company

Anyway

Even stuff like metoidioplasty theyve only barely started figuring out how to do urethral lengthening w/ extended meta. There's one surgeon who does it and a few other surgeons who learned the techniques, but there are still a bunch of horrible complications involved.
Only meta technique im interested in is TCM (total corporal mobilization) done by a surgeon in Brazil, and it's the kind of shit they do to men who lose their dicks in accidents where they pull out the corpus cavernosum from the inside and give you an extra 2-3 inches.
All of the photos I've seen of the procedure done on FTMs just look like regular meta, but maybe it's just too soon to tell

>>44608981
Nona's the one who's literally being raped, this board has fallen so far, you really believe in "le hecking valid bonus hole boi" sex?

>>44608983
>I don't know how much it keeps growing after the first year
It doesn't grow any more. You can try pumping though.
>try to penetrate if you're really lucky
You can kind of sort of penetrate a vagina in the right position, but I'd consider that foreplay/teasing. Anal would not work.
>Bottom surgery
Meta is kind of a waste of money in my humble opinion. You don't get much, if any, additional length from it. I think it's alright if you never want your vag touched, get little fake balls, and so on- and you have the money for it.
Phallo has improved a lot, although I still don't know how pleasurable it is. Numbness seems to be a rarity atp, and you can get a pretty nice looking dick. However it takes a shit load of money and you must be particular with which surgeon you choose.
> theyve only barely started figuring out how to do urethral lengthening w/ extended meta
I think this is a stretch, it's been commonplace for a while afaik.

>>44604180
I'm a straightden and my mtf gf and I mostly just mutually masturbate because piv makes us both dysphoric and doesn't feel that good for either of us, and we are both too much of headcases to finish from oral either. It does make me sad I'll never be able to have normal sex but it's at least more intimate to jack off with someone you love than alone desu
If she likes piv and you're just ok with it, why not just jerk off your tdick while she does it? That's the only way I have ever found it satisfying, worth a try

>>44608437
Then be more kinky retard. You have to compensate someway. In my experience kink does the trick.

>>44608983
Nta, but you can’t do anal even if you’re 2+ inches. I’ve tried it many times to no avail.