For all intense and purposes you are even if you have no attraction to females whatsoever as you are still a dude with a masculine gender expression that is attracted to the feminine (in one way or another) so you might as well just say you're straight. Besides most of society is ignorant. You tell these people you are gay and they'll get confused because they solely think of homosexuals as effeminate; as if it's 2005 because that is still how they think for their mind works on a need to know basis.
trans women are gay men who want other gay men to pretend to be straight men, that's the game
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>>44968960I'm talking about men who are solely attracted to effeminate males whether they are twinks or transsexuals.
>>44968990that's not a thing, its just gay and bisexual men who ignore their sexual urges for more masculine men because they fear that's not heteronormative
>>44968998>heteronormativeFucking twinks is heteronormative?
>>44969014claiming to only be attracted to femininity as a male is heteronormativetwinks are a pedophile thingyou are saying you like men who look like underage boys
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>>44968984Based anon.
>>44968960>>44968998who told you gay men want anything to do with chopping our dicks off? trans aren't the same as fags, fags worship the cock and hairy ass, trans don't want any of that, peoples imagination for what gay people like changes everyday
>>44968998not really man I mean I've tried with masc guys and it just doesn't compare and women... I just find them disgusting
>>44968984>you're gay if you suck dick and take it up the assSo you agree with me?>>44968998>that's not a thingYes it is. They are hetero presenting homosexuals, I.e. men who are attracted to femininity on the male genome. A decade ago they were known as prison gay now they are called chasers.>>44969049I never said fucking a twink is straight. I said you might as well just say you are straight if you are on the other end of homosexuality. The thing you said about lesbians is a completely different dynamic.
>>44969122they are not solely attracted to femininity, they just say they are to cope with a society that expects males to only like feminine bodies, aka comp hetif women didn't impose homophobia, men would be far more open to dating a wider variety of men
>>44969116>trans aren't the same as fagsYes they are. Transsexuals are just effeminate males who chose to embrace their true gender expression. Of course I'm talking of the dolls who are actually neurologically female and not schizophrenic misguided straight trooners. Their dysphoria is a byproduct of that. That is why it is pseudoscience thus has nothing to do with the actual cause of transsexuality which as I outlined for you is very simple. Transsexuals don't all have the same psychology for it first and foremost is a lifestyle choice
>>44969185gay men don't have female brains, women just don't like gay men acting feminine as males and would rather they degrade and humiliate themselves publicly by pretending to be women and thinking others are fooled - women get off on this
>>44969199Effeminate males are branded as such because they have perpetuate the gender expression of females.
>>44969199>women just don't like gay men acting feminine as males and would rather they degrade and humiliate themselves publicly by pretending to be women and thinking others are fooled - women get off on thisI do agree with this. Women would rather have them transition (which they would have a slim chance at passing as) to get rid of the competition. That is how they think. Of course it doesn't matter as masculine gay men don't date women willy-nilly anymore like they did in the noughties and prior. They know who they are actually attracted to and these people are no longer in obscurity.
>>44969272women's worst fear is gay men being taken seriously, and of course, nobody is going to truly take a gay man who calls himself a straight woman seriously they know he is deluded/damaged on some level even if they play along
>>44969282Like I said they are effeminate males whether they are trans or not. As for the whole straight woman thing it is all up to perception. Intuitively women do think of them as one of their own for they are neurologically female. That is why they welcome them into their social spaces. The problem is when they transition they have a slim chance at passing and that makes everything awkward. Nobody wants anything to do with a freak and that is why they often encourage this. To the mind of a woman a gay boy is a special exotic type of female who could put them at risk of being obsolete. That is what it comes down to.
>>44969346>they are neurologically femaletrans women do not act like women your argument is invalid
>>44969038>liking femininity is pedophilia btwwhat's next, if I want to date someone under 300lbs I'm a pedophile too?
it's ok to be gay without pretending to be a woman
>>44969761Yes they do assuming they are effeminate males. They are just a different flavor of female. They typically have a stronger feminine gender expression than biological females which is why twinks and femboys are known to be the default divas. Like I said transsexuality itself is just a lifestyle choice. Anybody can socially transition into the opposite sex. A large percentage of transsexuals are straight men who are mentally ill to the point that they don't even know their gender identity. You could chalk that up to schizophrenia or some personality disorder which gender dysphoria would correlate with. Feeling dysphoric about your own identity is what those mental disorders are all about. Effeminate males on the other hand transition simply to embrace their true feminine gender expression which they always perpetuated.
>>44970121effeminate males don't act identically to how women act
>>44970129Maybe not identically but for the most part yes as they talk and walk like women. Many even have a feminine physique so I would say they are intersex people but covertly as they do not possess female gonads or genitalia. Like I said it is neurological stemming from fetal hormonal development.
>>44970142no, there are lots of differences between faggy men and women and you just gloss over them because its not really about that, you want to force society to accept faggy men as women because they are otherwise socially rejected, and that's what it is really about - getting bullied less there's SOME overlap but its nothing close to 100%you want people to ignore masculine traits in feminine men and pretend they are women
>>44970108some of the folx here would strongly disagree with you even though it totally applies to them
>>44968943>for all intense and purposeslmfaoIt's just a way to hide bisexuality because that's icky!! Eeeww!! You can't be a male bisexual! Eewwww!!Quick, transition into a tranny or fuck the trannies as a cope!
>>44970146>you want people to ignore masculine traits in feminine men and pretend they are womenI do not want that and I did not say they are necessarily identical but their sexual behaviour (at the very least) for the most part is of the opposite sex. If it wasn't women would not feel so comfortable around them to the point that they allow them into their social spaces. That should tell you that they subconsciously think of them as women which is also why some women think of them as competition. You could chalk that up to mere prejudice.
>>44970146100% agreeErasing the unique identity of feminine men and trying to collapse them into "women" is ridiculous.
>>44968984T is Faustian
>>44970185That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that twinks, femboys and trans girls (aesthetics) all go under the umbrella of effeminate homosexuals who by definition perpetuate the gender expression/sexual behaviour of females. In truth they are all women at heart but that does not at all mean I am saying they should be categorized as such. Not first and foremost. Everyone is free to their own aesthetics but I am telling you what they are neurologically.
>>44970212>who by definitionWhich definition?
>>44968943r u trans cuz ur cool r u single
>>44970227yikes trying to pick up girls on 4tran
>>44970243yikes calling tttt 4tran
>>44970185people either say feminine men are faking it and are just masculine and doing it for attention and could be normal and masculine if they wanted, OR that such men are literally women and have to be castrated so they can safely socialize with females, there's NO in between, nobody saying its normal and natural for men to act feminine and be men - and that tells you so much ab out society and who runs it
>>44970243it worked before and they were hot
>>44970479This isn't /soc/.
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