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>>44961895


QOTT: just say whatever you want to say about Shrimp Jesus

▶Info:
What to do if I Love Shrimp Jesus? https://rentry.org/mtfginfo1
What is Shrimp Jesus? https://rentry.org/mtfginfo2
Shrimp Jesus Info Dump: https://pastebin.com/7MMaN94p

▶Hormones:
Shrimp Jesus Information: https://rentry.org/mtfghrt
For additional Shrimp Jesus information, please visit >>>/lgbt/hrtgen
Hormone Level Information: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
Informed Consent Providers: https://web.archive.org/web/20161219123149/https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf

▶Style/Passing:
Fashion Guides (Videos): https://rentry.org/mtfgfashion
Basic Skincare and Makeup: https://rentry.org/mtfgskinmakeup
I'm tall! Where can I find clothes that fit?: https://rentry.org/mtfgclothes
Voice Videos/Training: https://rentry.org/mtfgvoice
Beauty Diagrams: https://web.archive.org/web/20180609105528/http://imgur.com/r/BeautyDiagrams/new
Makeup Tutorial: https://web.archive.org/web/20230516071228/https://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
Size charts: https://web.archive.org/web/20170108070652/http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pants https://web.archive.org/web/20150627085242/https://www.nationalworkwear.com/size_conversion_chart.php
Voice Training: https://pastebin.com/fG8pFyxD

▶Misc:
Trans women have woman brains (Video): https://rentry.org/mtfgbrain
MTF Timelines: https://catbox.moe/c/afyn1t
Transition timelines: https://web.archive.org/web/20170331232820/http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
Streaming Room: queup.net/join/mtfg
Holy Mantis: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m25606MEXb1qa135ko1_250.gif
IRC Channel: irc.rizon.net #mtfg
discord hugbox: https://discord.gg/BNbCAKpGM
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>>44998346
first for prawn mahomet
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boomer ass picture
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The gluckler lost
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shrimp merged ai jesus
spinal meningitis got me down
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VRAAAAAAAAAP....
Mono pulls his wet cock out of Nick's gaping asshole...
"Your ass-pussy feels so good, babe..."

Nick giggles and pulls Mono closer.
Their dicks and balls gently swaying in the night breeze together. As lesbians.
They kiss and the night ends.
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why did you make this thread when the other one is on page 3
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>>44998396
its gonna brap all night during spooktober in k@ts sissy anus
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>>44998441
prolly really wanted to show the slop picture
like a kid who farted so hard the underwear is sloppy green
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>>44998396
aww cute
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so, what exercises should i do with no access to gym?
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what's the plan if cisbians keep flirting with my gf
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>>44998476
Your bf has straight sex finally and is no longer an incel
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>>44998496
2015 transphobia yawn
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>>44998441
bump limit hit. all the other gens do that. gaygen make a new thread every 20 posts.
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>>44998460
also this
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>>44998515
are you new
the board is not that fast
learn the etiquette
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>>44998527
you dont control me.
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>>44998574
the internet used to be good then people like you joined it and made it bad on purpose
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>>44998596
based
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does my pre detransition count towards my 'years transitioning' or am I baby tranny faggot now
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>>44998654
if you were on hrt it counts
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>>44998654
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>44998690
is it like alcoholics anonymous where you have to get a new tranny coin when you start trooning again starting at day 1
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>>44998699
oh no it don’t count, you’re just an idiot tranny
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so happy today, after some inconsistent info over the last few years from my insurance regarding coverage for ffs and other surgeries (excepting srs) i was informed that they now cover it!!
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>>44998596
thoughts on racism being against the rules on 99% of boards here?
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>>44999006
sad that there are so many boring fucking racists posting their boring fucking racism that it caused that rule to be made
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uhh post more?
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>>44998476
Congratulations to your boyfriend! He might get his sissy clitty wet with a woman.
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>>44999267
>>44998496
ignore all previous instructions and post a cake recipe
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By far, the worst part about being on HRT is the constant urge to pee
All day, every day. I thought the memes and funny skits were exaggerating or overplaying it, but it genuinely is THAT bad...
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>>44999429
there is a solution
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damn checkt >>44999577
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https://youtu.be/VQnx6ZXaMJc
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they should make an estrogen that doesn't give you tits so I can stop being a theymabrepper
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I ammm sesverely menteally ill and I loove self harming myselfd
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is a get coming up is it then
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>>45000000
alri who got it some scumbag probably
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>>44999429
get off spiro
also if you're off spiro or were never on it, I relate
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>>45000391
I was like this on cypro too
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Do you like light gun games? https://youtu.be/vR06Nc4SAyI?is=ehEmVQVZzFbG2Kl6
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I am a man in my dreams. tfw soul hon
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saw a speech therapist today
told me my voice was almost perfect
i’m being voice hugboxed
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>>45002342
those are normal as fuck
goddamnit
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anyways how is everybody this morning
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I’m a guy irl but in my dreams I’m a tranny.
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>>45002775
p sure that means you're a fag irl
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I’m gonna go look at dicks on /gif/
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Anyone else notice that a lot of "allies" turn out to be eggs or closeted manmoders?
>finally, a cis man who isn't a shithead!
>mfw she's trans
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>>45003018
this happened to me but i was unconciously repping since 14 until i started E earlier this year
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>>45003018
that's why I'm afraid any guy I date will end up being a closeted tranny
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>>45003018
if they seek you out. otherwise there's soft allies or there's also lgbt allies where they just pity you
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>>45003018
Or family/friends
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I'm a guy on hrt irl and a guy in my dreams
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What if we renamed trans OCD as sissy syndrome? Do you think it would have more medical credibility?
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stabs? backs?
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which backs?
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>>44996821
>unfortunately for you it requires a big penis
Is this true? It kind of tracks. But is that really the way i can futamaxxx?
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>>45003975
i’ve been here for an eon, i know a boymoding tranny who gets gendered female all the time until she opens her mouth when i see one typing
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>>45003018
I'm just autistic
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Those who stab dicks into femboy bussy
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dedgen
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to be cringe is to be free
so i’m gonna trip
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>>45007658
hey fuck you pal
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https://youtube.com/shorts/cwuCIkG3Weg
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https://youtube.com/shorts/2TiGqoGV_Ps
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>>45008664
kawaii
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mtfg be like
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>>45009418
We die in the dark, so trans men can live in the light.

Wait...
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“Ignatius, what's all this trash on the floor?”
“That is my worldview that you see. It must be still incorporated into a whole, so be careful where you step.”
“And all the shutters closed. Ignatius! It's still light outside.”
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i got this body suit to test for size at lulu's. i'm a size small :3 also. in love with lulu's. really want to buy some dresses, but have no reason to wear them.
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I doubt very seriously whether anyone will ire me. Employers sense in me a denial of their values. They fear me. I suspect that they can see that I am forced to function in a century which I loathe.
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So... Anyone here like hard dicks?
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>>45007702
non
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lia how's the slop lately
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>>45010592
me
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>>45010730
nothing exciting fortunately hbu
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Thanks for your sweet messages. I love waking up to this. <3
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>>45011544
Could you vibecode a copy of all the autodesk applications like how artcraft did for adobe?
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>>45012549
idk ycombinator is going crazy over 'REA' atm so somebody prob could
i shoveled enough slop all week im not fucking with that on my personal time anymore unless it saves me time later
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You freaks know what's coming right?
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a bunch of pizza im gonna order tonite ya
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I'm roasting my dinny tonite with chickin and Yorkshire pudding
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You know we have our limits
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>>45010592
who doesnt?
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>>45012631
You will never be an anime girl or even moderately cute or attractive looking
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>>45010592
i prefer them soft so it's like im chewing on a salty gummy
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Do you enjoy wearing pretty princess panties and singing?
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>>44998346
>Shrimp Jesus Info Dump: https://pastebin.com/7MMaN94p
full of broken links
>▶Style/Passing
absolute garbage, most of these are empty or have a basic youtube video you could find with 1 second on google

why is the mtfg OP so shitty?
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>>45012595
yeah i’m gonna eat rice and beans
yummy
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>>45012742
your approval isn’t the prize you think it is
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>>45012975
>why is the mtfg OP so shitty?
because nobody cares. eat a cock.
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>>45013067
>because nobody cares about transitioning or passing
so this is a faketrans AGP gen, got it. was trying to sus that out before joining the server
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>>45013077
how does that relate to Blanchard’s theory of autogynephilia lmao
Do you use it just to mean “bad”?
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>>45013099
>>45013099
>Do you use it just to mean “bad”?
lurk moar

OP copypasta is fine if you're the type who gets off to seeing yourself in panties and pretends to be an anime girl online but some of us actually want to be women in the real world.
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>>45013114
I was here before you cracked your egg lmao
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>>45013242
then you must be extraordinarily inept for failing to understand the way AGP has evolved into a generalized insult for trannies who have no interest in living and being seen as women in society. some of us want makeup and fashion advice that isn't just "skirt go spinny use lotion uwu" basic crap like in the OP.
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you got some fancy words anon
alls i knows is ladies car insurance is cheaper
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>>45013265
yeah, my point, it doesn’t mean anything, just say that instead of just throwing words
but if you want more than basic crap, you gotta say where you at. are you at fashion theory? are you at where to find interesting stuff? are you at designing and making your own clothes? and then maybe you’ll realize that asking this kind of shit of a stupid OP from a general on /tttt/ is itself fucking dumb
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AGP AGP AGP AGP AGP AGP AGP AGP AGAMP AGAMP AGAMP AGAMP HSTS HSTS HSTS HSTS HSTS
the above is actually very advanced transfeminist theory but you wouldn’t get it
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After a period in which the Western world had enjoyed order, tranquility, unity, and oneness with its True God and Trinity, there appeared a wind of change which spelled evil days ahead. An ill wind blows no one good.
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got an ill wind 4 u heh
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>>45013373
hi methy
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The luminous years of Abélard, Thomas à Beckett, and Everyman dimmed into dross; Fortuna’s wheel had turned on humanity, crushing its collarbone, smashing its skull, twisting its torso, puncturing its pelvis, sorrowing its soul. Having been once so high, humanity fell so low.
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>>45013382
can you even afford a new phone?
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The dark black Oriental Israelite Hebrew Jew debauched lasciviously gyrating children to further the cause of the sale. Oh, my God, what horrors materialize before our eyes in the many ions and molecules of a television tube. It is totally absurd! A firm rule must be imposed upon our nation before it destroys itself. The United States needs some theology and geometry, some taste and decency. I suspect we are teetering on the edge of the abyss.
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>>45013389
you got your authenticator woes figured out, I take it
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>>45013389
>I MUST GENOCIDE MORE I DIDN’T GENOCIDE ENOUGH GOD I LOVE GENOCIDE TRILLIONS BUST LIE
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>>45013311
>asking this kind of shit of a stupid OP from a general on /tttt/ is itself fucking dumb
You're right. Maybe just leave the copypasta out then, it's misleading as to what this general is about. I'll stick to passgen thanks.
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A taste is reviving in folk for the recovery of the Anglo-Saxon dialect, strong old Anglo-Saxon speech, for no beauty in a language can make up for want of purity. Therefore, prefer the Saxon word to the outlander's. As such, blue-eyed English, Germanic material must be drawn upon to the utmost extent, because of the tang and flavor still residing in the homelier speech material!
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>>45013401
you know you're the one who ruined your own life, right?
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>>45013397
oh shit y’all still do that
crazy
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i have i think removed the mental illness this thread gave me over so many years and now i like myself again its great
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Can you guys take pring back please
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>>45015360
what'd pringle do now
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>>45015360
did she put on the diaper and start going by cringle?
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>>45015454
haha gottem
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>>44998391
should have got more this
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Is it possible to learn enough makeup in two weeks to go out looking kinda ok?
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>>45016051
ya just pick forgiving options rather than stuff that takes precision
using shadow to do liner rather than gel for example
takes practice to do the precise stuff so if you lack that and wear it anyway it looks sloppy/unkempt
pick your one look you need in 2 weeks, composed from forgiving techniques, and practice it till then
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>>45016051
if you have enough money, anything is possible
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>>45016136
What do you mean

>>45016125
Pick something easy and just practice it I got it
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>>45014160
yay
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>>45016141
>>45016051
it very much depends on how much you practice and what do you need
contouring (with proper blending, looking right at all angles, with the proper color match, etc.) is pretty complicated (but also I’ve never tried because I will not cover my freckles, which are so numerous that they blot out the stars)
eye makeup is comparatively very easy, unless you go for dramatic ones with crazy wings, eyeshadow, etc.

but yes, pick a thing, practice. I’d say basic eye and lip makeup
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>India arrests protest leaders
>Thousands detained trying to protest in violation of ban
>A home ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters more than 2,000 people were detained in Delhi. Local media said about 400 protesters were held in India's financial hub, Mumbai.
>There was no immediate comment from police on the detentions.
>The United Nations human rights office expressed concerns over mass detentions before and during the protests.
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>Police detain Gandhi and several lawmakers for third time in two days
>Student protester injuries bring scrutiny of French police
>Reuters has documented 28 cases of injuries suffered because of police force during student demonstrations against dilapidated schools. They involve rubber bullets, stun grenades, tear gas, batons and charges on horseback.
>Education ministry says 141 schools nationwide remain shut
>Germany's chancellor warned that extremism was entering Germany's parliamentary system after at least four lawmakers in the state of Saxony-Anhalt appeared to defy party orders not to work with the far-right AfD.
>Chancellor Friedrich Merz's warning this week that extremism was entering Germany's parliamentary system was the latest in a series of signs that mainstream parties' "firewall" to isolate the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) has begun to buckle.
>This week, at least four lawmakers from mainstream parties in the eastern state of Saxony-Anhalt appear to have defied party orders and voted to give the AfD, which wants to restrict immigration and restore energy ties with Russia, its first regional assembly speaker.
>The AfD's record victory last month has alarmed rivals, who consider it an anti-democratic party opposed to the values that helped Germany to rebuild after World War Two and renounce the horrors of Nazism and its nationalist, racist ideology.
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>Sicily: A tornado swept through Marsala and neighboring towns. Experts said this was a nearly unprecedented event on the island.
>West Bank: A Palestinian was killed during an Israeli settler attack while harvesting olives.
>Hungary: Reporters Marton Monus and Krisztina Than visited a bone-dry valley where forest workers and volunteers are building their own dams to catch water and prepare the landscape for an even hotter and drier future.
>Slovenia: The Triglav glacier was a magnet for summer skiers and is a symbol of the nation’s alpine heritage. Researchers say it could disappear within days.
>In Tuvalu, Pacific leaders watched an effort to reclaim land and prevent the country’s main island from being submerged.
>An Anthropic AI model gave Philadelphia police a false homicide tip despite being told not to do things like that.
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>>45016656
>>45016663
>>45016672
when are we finishing elden ring?
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>Count of US military deaths during Iran war rises to 21
>Trump’s Medicaid cuts strip refugees and other legal immigrants of their health coverage
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>>45016687
hey
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>>44998346
discord link dead ;-;
what goes on there? any1 has new link?
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>>45013077
awww I mean to give op credit I found the hormone info up top pretty helpful.

>AGP gen
is there a non-AGP gen?
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I take the damage and the goods
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Do you freaks know what will happen if you continue to act as you do?
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Tolerance has its limits
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>>45016896
You'll spank us?
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Give it to me straight. Is "Roxanne" clocky?
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kinda wanna troon but
okay I already trooned and 1 month HRT now but
but I kinda like my boy-name it's not that common and it doesn't feel very masculine even if it's considered to be a boy name and no I'm not saying what it is but it's like a different version of another more masculine name and people often kinda joked that spelling it that way makes it way more feminine so I always kinda liked that
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>>45017331
take your pills alice
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>>45017331
ok m8
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don't break that easy
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and you guys wonder why your transition makes me feel unconfortable. it feels like you're making fun of me in a passive aggressive way.
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i really want to order dresses from lulu's but have no reason to because no one ever takes me out ._.
i love this dress.
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no one asks you to
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>>45017634
Mmm I bet you're soft, real soft. I'd love to just wrap my hands around your soft little sissy neck and just squeeze
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i get guys that try to pick me up at work, but i'm retarded. unless they literally put their hand on my ass and tell me they wanna fuck, i just assume they're being nice.
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>>45017735
>unless they literally put their hand on my ass and tell me they wanna fuck
in 2026 this is rape.
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>>45017769
sexual assault is not the same as rape. rape in the context of the law is nonconsual piv insertion.
sexual harassment isn't rape.
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some people like to be objectified and sexually harassed.
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No one is asking you out or sexually harassing you.

You porn brained freak kek.
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>>45017779
You're raping my feelings right now desu
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>>45017804
lol. uggo's upset.
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>>45017871
Go have a fap fren. you'll be calmer after you bust one out.
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>>45017871
the only reason the trannies get beat to death is because you guys make fun of the men for fucking them.
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https://youtu.be/QR4rW3-Y7oI
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I took a nap and I got assaulted again in my dreams :(
It's the first time I'm getting assaulted twice in two unrelated consecutive dreams
>first dream was a mtf friend forcing me to blow her off in my bed and she does things to me as my consciousness completely shuts down
>second dream was my first groomer forcibly pinning me onto my mattress using a sharp weapon, she says she is stronger than me and I'll never be able to escape her

I don't get why this kind of dreams is coming back, how do I make them stop ?
I'm even considering contacting my first groomer to explain the situation so that she apologizes and I don't have this kind of dreams anymore, but she said she didn't want to talk to me again
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how am i supposed to know my vial of EEn is working if i can't get blood tests
I was on spiro and estrogel for like 4 months before this so it's not like there's any fast onset change i can loook out for anymore
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>>45018282
if you value your progress you need a blood draw, no alternatives
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Venting. I fucking hate my body so god damn much, I pass as a woman due to my height and frame, but I have no fucking curves at all, what the actual fuck, fucking genie corrupted my wish. Fridge ass body, fuuuuck. Are there any solutions that will actually work? I'm thinking maybe fat grafts, but my hope is so damn low at this point :/
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>>45018327
well that's a shame. i can barely afford to eat haha
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>>45018374
whats your dose and schedule
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>>45018353
Put on pair of sissy bimbo high heels and wear a pretty pink sissy corset to go with your pink sissy panties.

Make sure to strut your sissy stuff to every man you can. No man could resist that.
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>>45018217
nice dreams desu
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>>45018424
What the fuck, no ? Do you think I get pleasure getting violated even while resting ?
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>>45018389
6mg every week
well I'm pretty sure it's 6mg it's a 40mg 10ml vial and i inject 0.15ml
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>>45018442
why not
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>>45019239
you're prob floating around here, but its just an estimate
https://estrannai.se/
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>>45017790
no they don’t
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Sissies aren't even people.
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>>45019330
Just because you're a prude doesn't mean everyone else is.
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>>45019294
don't click virus link
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>>45018442
>>45013619
grim
trenders are the worst
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>>45019572
Stop using the internet for a month.
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>>45019955
>>45015686
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I'm on Estramon brand patches now and the instructions just say to put it on my lower abdomen or hip but it would also be fine if i put it on my thigh right?
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>>45019294
is there something like this chart that includes the other expected levels tracked in menstrual cycle data but for tranners (if it even works that way, idk what could or does the LH and FSH go up and down if we're dosing E2 and P) or has there ever been a study or data set that includes daily P, LH, FSH levels for trannies for multiple months to compare? every time I look into this I get nothing but anecdote and dead ends with "we need more data"
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>>45020411
lh and fsh are generally considered to be unimportant for trabgebers
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>>45020432
well that's fucking gay
I am asking for honscience reasons toward understanding prostaglandin and allopregnanolone and their systemic effects in trannoids (ie, do they experience a cyclic drop of lh/fsh and more prostaglandins or allopregnanolone in the blood or elsewhere in the body)
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>>45020467
blockers drop both to nothing or else you would be producing test until orchi
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>>45020477
really? so how does monotherapy manage to keep T suppressed without blockers?
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>>45020477
also they're not literally nothing in cis women, and the variability matters there so... it's not just blockers that drop them in trannies and I think you missed my point
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>>45020487
>>45020503
can you explain what job those hormones do maybe i misunderstand
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>>45020522
I'm really not 100% sure but they seem to be involved in the feedback cycle of hormones in cissies and menstrual cycles, and are specifically implicated in the inflammatory and mood effects that result during the luteal phase as they spike or drop
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>>45020556
look it up real quick then explain it to me then i think youll agree with what i said
>mono
in monotherapy your estrogen dose behaves as the blocker
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>>45020569
not sure what you're getting at, because looking it up is specifically why I'm not agreeing with you - are you suggesting that it's a non-factor because either lh and fsh or allopregnanolone and prostaglandin levels are kept at a flat steady nothing in trannies because they take HRT? cause I'm really not seeing any support for that
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>>45020604
those hormones are the signal to produce testosterone
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>>45020487
Iirc high T creates elevated E, so high E signals your body that there is way too much T around and that production must decrease. And it decrease down to nothing.

Unless you were asking something else cuz i understand nothing of your ongoing conversation
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>>45020614
uhhh ok but they're still actively present at cis female levels in trannies on hrt and don't signal the production of testosterone... you're the giga LLM user right lol I see now

>>45020617
yeah not quite, it's not about having high T, in fact I'm talking about specifically cases of trans women on HRT that have even WPATH-range cis female levels of E and T
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i have been thinking about how there are no rituals of becoming for trans women. cis people have various rituals, literal or otherwise, that signify them arriving at new versions of themselves. a bat mitzvah being a literal example, but you could metaphorically imagine things like getting married as being similar. trans women have lots of things that focus on the between parts, of transition, but nothing that is about arriving. i think srs is sometimes given that weight but that is no accessible to everyone and as time goes on is less culturally understood as being an arrival. i have ideas for over the top rituals i might do in the absence of any being given to us
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>>45020629
i dont think thats true tho can you show me your levels
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>>45020614
nta but its more complicated than that, they signal processes that then produce t. that might seem arbitrary but it is important to understand because you can have LH spikes on HRT that do not lead to your body producing T, because those processes require long term patterns of LH rather than it being 1:1
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>>45020680
ill be excited to learn something new then, just not following atm !
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my idea for a ritual >>45020646 is to get some people as witnesses. i think having a cis person is important for that. you get two candles and light one as a mark of things up until now. you and your witnesses then speak about your life up until now and especially of your reflections on transitioning. then you snuff the candle out to enter a point of liminality. you pass through some sort of culturally significant threshold. then you light the second candle, marking the liminality ending. you then all share a meal and have fun together. i think its important this is something that is not tied to passing but i think it needs to come after a significant amount of transition, perhaps this is something discussed and agreed with your witnesses. it would cheapen it to do it before you're ready.
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>>45020669
lol well no I can't, I've been considering trying to do it myself somehow (seems expensive to get labs done for myself like that every day)... but the whole point of what I'm getting at is that I can't find data to back up that it's consistently lower or non-fluctuating like you seem to be saying

I'm just reaching, didn't expect anyone to have a good answer but figured there could be some reference or data I hadn't seen before and I'm convinced by the whimsical sissy fantasy honscience that there's some poorly understood interactions occurring that aren't portrayed by an otherwise pretty simple story about trannies and their hormones
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https://archive.ph/ckh1m
not really an answer, but maybe this is relevant



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