I have finished 0 novels this year. How do women manage to trudge thought so much slop.
>>24738488If you can't finish a single novel then maybe you need to get better at deciding or learn to enjoy the parts that aren't easily enjoyable.
>>2473848890% of female slop is equivalent to porn. Consider how much easier it is to sit through a porn vid than it is to sit through an arthouse film
stop watching videos and playing games on your phone. You can still do whatever you want at home on the computer, but when in public, carry a book with you. An hour or two a day and you'll be finishing dozens of books each year.
Women read shitty dark romance novels the same way men watch porno or boxing matches. It isn't with the brain. It is with the loins. When you learn to read with your dick then you will become a true master of literature.
>>24738488Maybe because they actually like reading and you don't? Also try picking up a book that you actually enjoy instead of falling for /lit/ memes.
Are there any literary works worth reading from this region?I only know of Ibsen's plays and Andersen's tales.
>>24723585Peter Wessel Zapffe
>>24724688Välskärin kertomuksia (Fältskärns berättelser på svenska) is thirty years war kino
I'm surprised this thread is still up. I thought it would die after a day or two with no replies.
>>24726411I would but there's only 11 in circulation and 25 reservations in line at my countys libraries. It's a positive problem though for you.
>>24744295your mother was also surprised, she thought you'd die in a day or two but you kept climbing out of the trash can
Autumn is here edition
>>24744166The cash surrender value accumulates as a certain percentage of the premiums (the premium minus the administrative fees and the price of the insurance itself), but the amount accumulated is very small for the first few years since the majority of the death benefit is still being paid off. Over time as the death benefit is paid off the CSV grows, and the CSV itself has interest added to it. Eventually the CSV can even pay for the premiums themselves. That's with whole life insurance. Universal life is more complicated and involves mutual funds, but most of what I said above^^^ still applies.
>>24744175So it's both life insurance and a savings account? Neat.
Current reads – Need to finish before I start anything else:>Killing Hope by William Blum >The Dweller in Darkness (novelette) by August Derleth >The Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel Defoe Remember – Spooktober is 61 days, people!!
>>24744214>not reading one book at a timei shiggy diggy
this chick said she wants to come over and fuck idk how i'm going to get my room clean enough for that there are books everywhere and it almost definitely smells in here
Fun With Math EditionStubbed >>24732394>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24744134I imagine the story in my head as a bunch of scenes. Then I write down those scenes and add in-between scenes as necessary. This means that I know what's supposed to happen next, but I also struggle with actually writing the chapters. One day in the future, when AI use becomes commonplace, I will have an easy time "writing", but that day is not yet here. I enjoy the process of coming up with what should happen in the story. I frequently find that I can't type fast enough to jot down all the ideas that I want to express even in the format where I just describe what happens in a scene. But turning that into prose is way too hard.
I like the idea that litrpg stats aren't a summation of your abilities, but rather additional power on top of what your body has. A small woman with 20 Strength is still weaker than a cow with 3 Strength.How would you make intelligence, wisdom, and charisma work like this though?
>>24743916>it does qualify for>>Any litrpg where the MC uses their power to have sex with women?No it doesn't. MC doesn't actually get to fuck women in the story.>>24743925>Best MMO writing since Log Horizon though.I wouldn't say that. Maybe if the whole thing wasn't so contrived I could consider it.>>24743919>>24743923There's plenty of these on ScribbleHub. Western harem stories have most of their audience on Kindle (Amazon) and the authors are constantly afraid of being put into the erotica category. That's why they tend to be so tame. There are some stories like that though, authors like James Reed and Patrick Stewart, but their quality of story tends to be poor - worse than a lot of web novels.
>>24744140we all love melty here
man...
Is it true that writing as a job is a one-way ticket to the poorhouse? How much do published authors make, anyway?Okay, assume I'm an average chicklit writer (this ensures my books actually sell) and I release a book every three years, and each book sells 10k physical copies and 20k digital copies. How much money would I make?What if I take writing seriously™ and I only sell like 2k copies of my magnum opus? I make at least $20k, right?
>>24740972I write literary fiction in a small european country, I'm 33 and I published two novels - first was well received and second won a national award. Both got significant recognition by critics and one was praised by one of the best living writers I know. In terms of money, none of this mattered in the slightest. Cultural work of any kind is awarded with the financial equivalent of candies - when it is at all. Advancement on writing contracts will pay one/two rents at best. Cultural articles (reviews, discussions, etc.) are paid below 100 euros. Public readings, presentations, participation to events is all not paid and unless you publish with one of the big three publishing houses, you may have to pay for transport and accomodation. The only people who have access to cultural work and can continue doing past their 30s all belong to the same social class, which has made cultural discourse stale and redundant: sentimental stories of people going to each other's houses, people on holidays, people with dubious jobs etc. not a hint of poverty, precariousness and the current state of the world if not for vague themes (ecology, war) of which these people read only in newspapers, and about which they write to calm their anxiety. They almost all know each other, go to dinner or on holiday at each other's houses, assign awards to each other by being jurors in this or that committee, etc. "Making it" in the cultural field doesn't mean to be a good author, but to use your book as a boardspring to get a job somewhere else: in radio, television, in some newspaper, in one or more publishing houses, etc.Millennials especially at the moment are having this weird experience where they publish one or two novels and then disappear entirely from the scene because they cannnot stay afloat financially. Thank god for social security and unemployment checks or I'd be on the street already.
>>24740972There's a massive supply of writers and the demand is slim, do the math.
>>24744096>I write literary fiction in a small european country, I'm 33 and I published two novels - first was well received and second won a national award. Both got significant recognition by critics and one was praised by one of the best living writers I know.Congratulations anon. How did you do it
>>24743021Not really, most of these interviews are pretty much what I outlined above, banter. A tiny fraction of a percent of the audience cares and they just care in that general way of, oh I like that book store, maybe I will go to that reading, and that one person who has actually read something I wrote and while not exactly a fan it is a chance for them to go ask that question that has been nagging them about what they read. So for most of these interviews my job is to be entertaining the general audience. Those free arts and entertainment papers are really the only time there is any real discussion on literature but it is not exactly hard hitting stuff. I just am not big enough yet. >>24743805Not everyone is broke and living month to month. I did my time, saved everything I could and arranged my life so I don't have to work. >>24743833I am not traveling across the country to do a $25 interview, majority of these are part of a tour after new book and even then it is not like I am going nation wide. Generally I will have a few interviews in any given city and make a bunch of sales at the reading. My publisher also pitches in on costs and their being an imprint of one of the major publishers they get to exploit various deals they have with hotels for cheap rates. >>24744096Things sound tough for the aspiring writer where you are, way more difficult than in the US despite not have much in the way of social security or unemployment (at least when it comes to the aspiring novelist). Keep at it.
25 years ago I took a college course taught by a published author. Her comment about royalties, (in the USA), was that each book sold gave her enough to pay for a Starbucks coffee, which I remember meaning $2-$3 per book copy sold. She was nice, but I don’t even remember the teacher’s name, the books didn’t sound interesting to me, she didn’t require, or try to get the students to buy copies, and I sort of gorget what exactly the course actually was, since I don’t think it was even a literary course, just something or other required at an Art School. Plenty of the teachers were required to give general academic courses on some general period, but really only knew the subject matter for their own discipline. As far as the royalties, the teacher lived in a small studio apartment, which was probably what she could afford mostly with pay from the teaching job. From the Penguin Random House antitrust lawsuit;>“ Over 90 percent of books sell fewer than 1,000 copies; 50 percent of books sell fewer than 12 copies.”Basically, for most authors, the advance, is probably more than the royalties from the book sales would ever generate. Unless you have some hit that remains in print by luck, you’re probably not going to make much money off the royalties. I suspect the people making stuff in the Craft Departments wound up making more money from their craft items, (at least if they set up a shop and continued making stuff), than most authors made from selling copies of their books. Richard Greener, wrote two books in his “Locator” series, that were optioned and made into a TV show, and both books are out of print, with the exception of the audiobooks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the author made more off the TV series option than off the actual book royalties, and even James Elroy has complained about the amount of money he made off of movie options from his books.
Is this person correct about Dosto and Tolstoy?
>>24744230>are you a Dostoievsky lover perchanceI remember loving C&P all the way back in high school, but I'm reading Demons rn and I'm not feeling it. Favourite writers are probably Flaubert and Henry James.
Amateurs.
>>24744241NTA but Demons can be not very interesting to read but it's great in the finale and as the sum of ideas put into it, remember to read the omitted chapter before the epilogue at least. Stavrogin is one of the best written characters in Dostoevsky's works.
>>24744177inventive perceptions, details, structures, sentences, jokes are all substance. characters that cant be reduced to ideas are substance. the same boring trite about some general human condition isn't.
>>24744039Lol explain your reasoning
Why does /lit/ not talk about her more? I think if she were a man then she would be talked about more on /lit/.
>>24743852So they have isolation and communication in common. You can leave the full stop there. A comparison can be made, but to take the further step of labelling McCullers as "proto-DFW" is ridiculous. Should we not label any subsequent author to McCullers who wrote about modern loneliness as "post-McCullers?" There is no natural and direct progression from what McCullers was doing to what DFW did, not in the way you can track Horace Walpole to William Beckford. They simply wrote about similar things. My issue isn't with the actual comparison; it's with the ham-fisted way it was made. It was done by a typical /lit/ poster who reads Infinite Jest and wants to bring it up at every possible opportunity.
>>24744234Can you show that DFW did not read McCullers, that he was not influenced, that there is no direct connection? ffs, discuss what that anon said instead of seething about something from years ago. Was going to hit the archives to see what the fuss was about, but I think this thread has given me enough to know.
>>24744248I've read Infinite Jest, Brief Interviews with Hideous Men and The Pale King. I've read some of his essays and no mention of McCullers. I did a general search on google and found nothing. You can have a look yourself but I don't think you'll find anything. You'd be able to tell there was no direct influence if you read both authors and had an understanding of modern and post-modern literature in general. As I said before the comparison stops when you go beyond loneliness as a topic. Go ahead and make the comparison, but I'll call you an idiot if you call McCullers proto-DFW. Why not call Fernando Pessoa proto-McCullers or proto-DFW?
>>24743522"The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" arrived in the mail yesterday and I'm going to read it after I've finished my current book :)
I don't get why her novels are always bleak or have a downer ending. The one that doesn't is A Member of the Wedding and is still bittersweet.
Nietzsche was so based
Nietzsche wasn't revolutionary.Behind Nietzsche is the worship of competition and conflict that has been central to Western thought.He was very much a Godless Christian.
>>24742854Competition on different terms than what Christianity proposes
>>24741896https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yHuF7ai2m-w
>>24742854Literally nothing Nietzsche supported has ever been "central to Western thought". He indeed wasn't revolutionary, but rather because everyone from his time up to today who wasn't a serious lowlife degenerate saw him as a loser who got high on drugs and started spouting gibberish. Most of his books barely sold shit and were instead printed in very small quantities for acquaintances who left them to rot in their bookshelves until his sister came in trying to twist his delusional thoughts into her ultranationalist ideals.
>>24743450And yet you've heard of him
he's literally me frfr.
Bro, no one here besides a few Brazilians will know who he is. Actually I am from the city where he graduated and I found one of his old books in a bookstore nearby his university, very kino.
>>24743415redpill me on this br
>>24743430Pessimistic poet, main influences were Schopenhauer.
>>24743415Qual o nome do livro?
Hi again,few days ago i posted that i started getting into reading as a hobby and a form of self development despite how cringe that sounds.I read 5 books this year:Nietzsche's ZarathustraBlood MeridianNotes from the UndergroundHungerStrangerNow im trying to read pic related,Any thoughts or counter-recommendations?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24743819>I want to develop some love toward being alone, living in solitude and being happy with myself, as im going through a painful period in my life.This is an error and you will regret it. Read Tolstoy, Chesterton and the Confessions of St Augustine. The Consolation of Philosophy perhaps also. Then volunteer at a homeless shelter or doing something for disabled kids, etc, where you can have direct and positive engage with other people. I assume that you're quite young, but you will sorely regret cultivating yourself into the kind of gloomy, aloof loner that you're aiming to be.
>>24744043Not OP but we end up regretting whatever we do.
>>24743819Nice choices. Read Sorrows of Young Werther (for keks), Stoner (for feels), and Tartar Steppe (for reevaluation).
>>24743819>Correctiongood choice, nice book
>>24744043Not OP, but I am temperament a gloomy, aloof loner, and I regret not realizing and accepting it earlier in life. I went through so many friendships, sexual relationships and even a marriage, and they all left my loneliness unsatisfied. It’s only slightly assuaged when I’m away from others. Especially out in nature but even just alone in any way.
What Redditors are saying about Honor Levy>holy fuck I wish I never read this>the worst people i know are excited about it>it’s astounding how poorly she writes>The one excerpt I saw is literally the worst thing I’ve ever read in my life>You couldn't waterboard me into reading a full book of that, Jesus ChristIs she our girl?
>>24743135You were all dying for this information, so I gave it to you. You're welcome. It's ok Honor, we know you are feeling a bit lonely in your appartment so you're looking for warmth on the internet as usual. You will be ok.
>>24737104This guy is fucked up on stimulants and is an incredibly odd character in general.
>>24739115gives what?
>>24744115It gives Pynchon. Most redditors don't have Pynchon so they're grateful when they receive it. That's why reddit likes her. I have a lot of Pynchon so I don't see the point of this generic e-girl jezebel slag if she isn't at least going to get her titties out.
>>24744139Stop saying "it's giving", Honor. It doesn't make you sound cool. Also the point of this thread that you made was that Reddit DOESN'T like her, so please try to keep your conceits consistent when posting about yourself or when writing books. And you are about as far from Pynchon as a writer can possibly get. You "give" stupid zoomer and nothing else.
Do any of you believe in this? Not in a Diamondian sense, but in a more vague, mystical way. I'm a southerner and to imagine this place as anything other than a poor, run-down, hardly-developed backwater that is constantly being reclaimed by nature seems somehow antithetical to the land. Southern literature is always about romanticizing some kind of lost ideal, but I don't think it's because of the war. This place has a weird, timeless vibe, as if you're living in the ruins of some fairy tale kingdom from thousands of years ago, and stuff like the kudzu all over georgia highways and magnolia trees in mississippi magnify that feeling.It reminds me of how slavs feel about slavic countries, how they say that beautiful and clean cities rub them the wrong way. People in northern england probably feel this way too. Anyway, I'm wondering if you guys feel this way about where you live too.
I'm hitting a point where having conversations with 99% of people can't really teach me anything, because I'm always way more informed on the topic than other people, and only resorting to increasingly obscure and esoteric authors can leave a dent on my world view. In fact, often reading isn't even helpful, and I have to theorize and research to make any progress. Has anyone else reached this point? Do you enjoy being at the cutting edge of whatever you study, or did you have more fun learning the basics?
>>24744160I get the impression I'm being schizoed on here
>>24744172>I don't discuss literature and authors on the lit board. Just my feelings.How would you know?
>>24741808Hot take: if you’re very knowledgeable yet can’t destroy normies in debates (use fallacies, or don’t, doesn’t matter) and can’t make them question their worldview or at least spread the seed of enlightenment in their minds, you’re not smart.
>>24744172Yeah I have no idea what that thing is trying to say
>>24744176This one was more clearly pointed, so I'll reply despite the schizoing to say that yes, when I come on here I usually like to discuss literature and authors, but in real-life natural conversation it's rarer and I almost never talk about non-fiction then.I guess you've fixated on dismantling me but, have a good one, anyway
Is Bart Ehrman right about the Bible?
>>24743534No.
The hotel staff, I think, considers us useless freeloaders who have come to America – land of honest laborers with crewcuts – to eat them out of house and home. I know all about this. Everyone bitched about parasites in the USSR too, bullshitted about how you had to be useful to society. In Russia the people who bitched were the ones who worked least. I've been a writer for ten years now. It's not my fault that neither state needs my labor. I do my work – where's my money? Both states bullshit about the justice of their systems, but where's my money?
>>24738344:skull:
>>24734412Communists need to stop randomly saying "nigger" in an attempt to fit in. It really makes you look like the narcs that you are.
>>24744252>"being a bootlicker gives you an n-word pass, otherwise you're committing hecking problematicino"bruh
>>24744265that's not what he said, retard.
>>24744265You're a real annoying presence here aren't you