English is such a shit language. For me the nail in the coffin for English was when I learned that the problem of ambiguity between argument and explanation, where all you have to disambiguate is context, which they talk about in logic books, is not something which is universal in logic, but rather is a problem of English. Other languages don't have this problem. English is a low IQ language. All it's good for is dumbing down the masses.
>>24969317>German is the only language I've come across that was somewhat understandable without studyso now you're just making up stuff
>>24969317Prættig securo þe 𐤏𐤐𐤓icano contratas ear mearcod βάσod on þe coloniale dinguaticas, naƿiht þe nativo anas (of hƿelc þær ear generallice an bunche ƿiþinn an contrata ænig ƿeg)
>>24969159Thanks, ill look into it, I've tried playing games with German audio and English subtitles or English with German subtitles and some parts of it I can understand, but some games as per their nature will use more complex words, like if you play Helldivers 2 or whatever you'll notice
>>24969246Romanian and French being easier than German? Since when? See pic for reference, and look at this video, https://youtu.be/ryVG5LHRMJ4? French isn't even comparable, only the more "refined" words are similar or the same.
>>24967483In context 2 I can't imagine anyone just saying "It's raining, so the ground is wet", there would be something indicating conjecture thrown in (even if not as a grammatical feature):>It's raining so the ground is definitely wet>It's raining so the ground is probably wet>It's raining so the ground is wet, right?>>24968050Japanese has a crazy amount of these subtle evidentiality distinctions too at the clausal level. It gets even more interesting in that it's generally ungrammatical to speak about the mental state of another person (e.g. the "He left because he was angry" example mentioned upthread) and you need to include some kind of evidentiality marker to couch the statement
What the fuck was AM's problem?
>>24967429>He was written by a shitty author and lives in a shitty story.fpbp
>>24966494Unrelated, but does anyone have recommendations for good posthumanism literature?
Is this actually worth reading? I see this edition sell for ridiculous prices, but it seems to me the hype is solely based around the cover.
>>24969150>Is this actually worth reading?Nope. Highly overrated.
>>24966494This has the distinction of being one of the lamest short stories I've ever read. Absolutely baffling to me that it's somehow stood the test of time.
Its one of sci-fi's greatest sneak disses on feminism and feminized men.>an emotional female calls for a superior race of beings to come conquer earth "for our own good">a feminized humanity hands the most important job in the solar system to a woman, because we have pretty men now>said female is handed the most important job to keep humanity's enemy at bay and she fails within 10 minutes of having the job. a man held the same job before her for 50 years and forgot how to talk because he took his job so seriously>that same woman takes back control of her company from a more than capable man so that he wouldn't work on a tech that could save most of humanity>said woman then is saved by the same tech she tried to stifle and gets to be counted as one of the last representatives of humanity>a simp who just happened to accidently get stuck with her at the end of the world tries to let her off the hook for her failures. at least we can farm and fuck comfortably in our own universe for the next 10 years amirite!Women and simps will be the downfall of humanity just wait and see.
>>24966596“For your own good” is a paternalistic drive though.
>>24968628It’s a 10/10 classic tv show if only for being one of many sources I draw my humor from.>And this is an image which I created of you as Sheila, queen of the lost city of ants! >>and that’s Arkmed your lover, be careful though since he’s only a drone and you’re the queen the love which you share is forbidden…
>>24966596Yeah it's anti female I noticed that too
>>24967143why? it's better than the english translation?
>>24967726you would know why they care about humans if you had just... read the book
Any book recommendations that are similar to this
Let me break down for you why Monsieur le Bronze Age Pervert and his fans make /lit/spergs freak out so hard: because they have fun with reading. That's literally it. The people on this board hate that they're not huffing the farts of the Church Fathers or Guenon or whatever faggot shit they've decided needs to be taken super seriously. Also a lot of you are brown and not hiding it very well.
>>24960584What exactly is the OP pic trying to convey
>>24960598>thread is immediately derailed by third worlders arguing about white womenthat's all /litpol/ is anyway
>>24969360Your 50 year old homosexual Jewish Zionist e father is not going to see thisTS shit not tuff>>24969370You missed his point
>>24969205>mention Rome and ancient Germanics>abrahamic prudesTo this day americans freak out when they find out people in Europe can hang out nude without it turning into an orgy
Literally just learn them. For the effort expended (a few years at most, and you'll still be able to maintain a social life and read in English), the rewards are immense. You'll get to enjoy a lifetime of reading in them. A hundred years ago every educated man could read them. Not to mention that learning to read other romance languages will be a joke after this.With the advent of AI it's never been easier to learn languages on your own, at this point your're just lazy and a midwit.>hurr durr i dont have timeThen stop cooming and watching tiktok and browsing 4chan>but i will miss out on reading by studying themNo, most of the learning of these languages is reading in them to build up to fluency>i can just read translationsok, your loss, lazybones
>>24969374To my mind, the reason to learn Greek lies more firmly in the classical and pre-classical eras, though the Greek language has continued into the present.Of course, the reason to learn Greek is Homer, which makes it somewhat unfortunate that learning Epic Greek is even less common than learning Classical Greek. Hesiod also wrote in the same dialect as Homer.Then, of course, we must speak of the contribution of Athens. Although the Pre-Socratics are interesting, not much of their writings survive, and so one should really begin philosophy with Plato. Xenophon of Athens also wrote Socratic dialogues; they are not as good as those of Plato, but one may find it interesting to read them after having read Plato. Aristotle (though not strictly Athenan, a student of Plato) also provides one a lot of reading; most people do not bother, however, to read his biological works. The tragedians, Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides are quite good, and the comedian Aristophanes is often found amusing.The Greeks also invented history, at least in the West. Herodotus, who I should mention wrote in a slightly different dialect of Greek, wrote his Histories, which, though nominally about the Persian Wars, contain a wealth of other information. Although generally considered the first historian, he is frequently considered less reputable than Thucydides, who wrote about the Peloponnesian War.And, of course, if one learn Koine Greek, one can read the New Testament in the original. You can also read many other notable early Christian writers; I recommend the epistles of St. Ignatius of Antioch.There are countless other classics written in Greek all worth one's attention, but I would recommend two lesser known Greek authors: Theocritus, who invented the pastoral genre of poetry, and Nonnus of Panopolis who wrote and epic about the god Dionysus and a poetic paraphrase of the gospel of John.If somehow this is insufficient, you could explore Byzantine literature, but I am less equipped to write thereabout. I also imagine it is quite easy to learn Modern Greek after learning Greek, as it is easy to learn French after Latin, but I cannot say for certain. Greek also contributes a great number of terms to the technical vocabulary of English and other languages.
>>24969389With French or German, the returns are not nearly as great as with Greek or Latin, but there are many notable writers in each.In French, Proust stands out. But, there are many others of note: Voltaire, Rousseau, Montesquieu, de Staël, de Maistre, de Chateaubriand, Dumas, Hugo, de Balzac, Flaubert, Zola and many others therebeside. There is also some historical advantage to learning French due to its former status as the language of diplomacy. Contemporary French literature is also probably better than contemporary English literature, but that isn't saying all that much.In German, Goethe stands out, especially his famous Die Leiden des jungen Werthers or Sorrows of Young Wether. Then, of course one's mind is brought to Kant and Hegel and the many minor idealists. But again, there are many others of merit: Nietzsche, Novalis, Hölderlin, Herder, Schopenhauer, Kafka, Ernst Jünger, Schmitt, Heidegger, Thomas Mann, Stauss and some others.There has also been a great deal of scientific literature published in both French and German, especially linguistic and philological literature, most of which is not translated.
>>24968512>bragging about your own ignorancevery unitedstatesian of you
>>24966843Das vergüenza socio. Me da vergüenza que hagas del español una frikada tercermundista.
>>24968945German US would be so based
You need to start spelling words with “w” instead of “ v” wherewer “v” appears. This is because “w” is an inherently heroic and wholesome shape, whereas “v” embodies ewerything harmful, deceitful, and willainous (note, I’m only talking about written language, I make the “v” sound as normal when speaking) Trust me, this will improwe your entire way of life.
V is the bvsed trve Roman letter thovghbeit
>>24962800In the original she’s just simping for russian thugs
>>24968989She’s a based EuraZianistAfrica, Jews, Russia, Tartaria all belong to same civilization
>>24969373deboonked.>>24965485
>>24962509Anon I'm literally crying right now
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The Quran is making islam thrive and grow right now while Christianity dwindles. It should be higher than the Bible
>>24969234The quaran confirms the bible and then contradicts it, gets stories wrong, ignores history, and has no miracles. Its in the same box as the book of Mormon and other cults. It wouldn't be so popular if it wasnt forced down the throats of the middle east at the threat of death. Come to Christ, friend. Bible is the best collection of books and history, always number 1.
>>24969234what does that village do during an avalanche
>>24969319>in the same box as the book of Mormonboth are true read Doctrine and Covenants
Is nominalism really that bad? A lot of galaxy brained people seem to say so. CSP says that individualism (his term for the combination of nominalism and the belief that particulars are ontologically fundamental) is "a tool of the Devil if Devil there be" in a letter.
>>24964982>So is that why guys like Rorty, Nietzsche, and Deleuze seem so relativistic in many ways?But then how do they say anything at all. For instance, for Nietzsche, overcoming is clearly good and slave morality is not good (or substitute good with some other term, but the point is obviously normative). Likewise, Deleuze obviously values creativity and freedom. Rorty holds up preventing cruelty as a sort of good. If these measures didn't exist, I don't think their philosophy would make much sense. So is that the problem then, both the relativism (which the latter see as a perk, it supports freedom) but also the self-contrdiction (which is presumably bad)?Yup. People want their goodness and they want their justification of absolute freedom. But you can’t have both. Hence the needless coping by radical nominalists (not the based pre-modern nominalists).
>>24964982>>24969192you guys actually have to read nietzsche this shit makes you look retarded people primarily focused on greek and medieval philosophy have the most to gain from it moderns trying to read it will basically not be able to actually understand it because they never put the effort in to deal with the greeks that is required anyone who uses the word "relativism" is a retard on either side. Actual greek/medieval morality is fundamentally relative it's not about a set of rules, it's about the perfection of specific objects and the intellect grasping them and willing to bring them to that, there is no "rules" apart from things derived from engagement with particular things. Goodness is just a being expressing it's nature, and for humans that includes using the intellect, seeing the natures of things and willing to bring them about and user their powers in accord with their own nature. It has literally nothing to do with rules or objective laws apart from to the extent things share a nature.
>>24969342What's your point? To deny relativism is not to subscribe to some sort of deontological, law-based morality. Teleological approaches are not relativist in the relevant sense, particularly not those embracing the Doctrine of Transcendentals. There is a real (objective) distinction between what appears good (what appears desirable/is desired) and what is truly good (truly most desirable).Every philosopher allows for some sort of relativism. It is good to scoop your child off the ground after they bang their knee. It isn't so good to scoop a stranger's kid up at the park. It is good for a tiger to eat a monkey. It is not good for a monkey to be eaten by a tiger. And yet this not the sort of relativism people talk about vis-á-vis ethics. It doesn't deny an anchoring point in the Good. Plenty of modern thought absolutely does deny this sort of anchoring though, and so are relativistic in a more thoroughgoing sense.So too with truth and perspectivism, e.g., "there is no truth, only interpretations."
>>24964982You are asking good questions
>>24964982>>24969359The questions are unanswerable though. The advocates of the "ontologies of violence" will show that their contradictory assertions simply make plain how discourse and philosophy is ultimately always a power struggle. Identity thinking is just a move in this power struggle, a way to assert one's own will or delusions over others.The partisans of the Good will claim that this is ridiculous sophistry, and that that the advocates of discourse as power battles make themselves vice-addled and miserable. Thinking themselves free, they embrace slavery to their vices.One must know them by their fruit then. Any routine checking of bookstore philosophy sections will reveal that Nietzsche is easily the most popular philosopher over the past 50+ years. The most copied philosopher in the West over the Middle Ages was Boethius. I feel like that's a good comparison point.
Is he really *that* important?
>>24966128Sonic Youth's Bad Moon Rising 1985Ruscha's painting is 1988, apparently he was inspired by *the 1948 comedy-western Pale Face. In this film, Bob Hope turns to Jane Russell as they are being attacked by Indians and exclaims, "Brave men run in my family" and promptly turns to flee the scene.*Internet infers same source for SY but maybe they just riffed on "brave men":**Seven days and seven nightsI dreamt a sailor's dream at seaSeven days and seven nightsI dreamt a sailor's dream of meSeven days and seven nightsThe world was made and lost againSeven days and seven nightsBrave men runIn my familyBrave men runInto the setting sunComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24964599Foucault has been tool boxed. My guess is that most people who use this tool box have no idea of Foucault's theory and could not explain his base terms like statement. It's similar for Derrida especially his differance is something some people have in their toolbox. However, Foucault is clearly more popular. My guess is that he seems easy to read and accessible at the surface
>>24964599You will die and eventually that information will be useless or to simply state, Suprlus information is useless and you're just farming for attention at that point other than Academical research
>>24966117Seriously how to get into post structuralists without hegel
>>24964599What are you reading? I don’t care about those other readers…
I got 4 years of college paid for(with a housing allowance). How should I use this to /lit/max?. Learn and language and take English and creative writing classes? I already make a lot of money so any talk of jobs is irrelevant
>>24968190Posting better on 4chan just means you adapted for the audience of demoralized pseuds
>>24965680God I hate Mcmansions. Americans can't buy class
>>24968640that's a victorian estate from like 125 years ago, seems like maybe u just have no taste.
>>24968640>>24968644What a shit courtyard
>>24968214>is richIt's not, though, you dumb pajeet.
>If you meet the Buddha, kill him.What does he mean?
>>24966582You... are ... GAY.
>>24967870>enlightenment incomi-ACK!
>>24966582It means you’re the Buddha. Someone else can’t be the Buddha. It’s all on you.
>>24967870is it about breaking duality?
>>24966684based fellow lotus Sutra EnjoyerNam Myoho Renge Kyo!https://www.bdk.or.jp/document/dgtl-dl/dBET_T0262_LotusSutra_2007.pdf
Surprisingly Enough(NOT), Common Sense Is Overpowered in Cliché Writing Website EditionStubbed >>24958783>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24969408>If I see a long, rambling post, spread across multiple paragraphsjust wondering what the 3k character limit is for then. What pray tell is your character limit you wish to enforce. Does your limit go by words, sentences, or characters. I would not want to cross you, you obviously are in charge herekek. (that was sarcasm, also knows as verbal irony. An accepted literary technique)
>>24969435(caddyshack voice)"Well? We're waiting."
>people keep dragging me out late at night>try to wake up early to write in the morning>totally burnt out this morning>can't write a single word>grumpy and a late night planned tonight, too0.5 star morning ;_;On the other hand I found a website that has exactly what I need for the finale of my current fiction (it's gonna have pictures), so I can plan that out today while people talk around me...Merry Christmas everyone
>>24969435https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story>>24969459What's the point of writing long posts when they communicate nothing intelligible?
why does this thread have to be infested with lolcows and schizos fucking everything up
Will I like Anna Karenina if I'm an unapologetic mysoginist?
>>24969243You don't know anything about the book? Even I knew beforehand without reading that Anna Karenina herself is a cheating whore, and she is the main character. It's just Russian Madame Bovary
>>24969257Yeah but I thought it would only be one storyline and the other one is pure love. Even in this thread there are people saying you're meant to like Levin. Why would I root for him to get together with yet another whore?
>>24969270Stick to comics or something idk
>>24969238I’m talking about her friendship with Varenka and her mother and how she initially admired her but then changed her opinion
>>24969405I haven’t read it in a few months but isn’t Varenka the condescending and malicious gossiping lady who also plagued Karenin with bad advice?
>dude this book is totally like a COGNITIVE INFO-HAZARD bro>read it>its scp dogshit written by a 15 year old
>>24967906What are some that are good despite being memes? I enjoyed The Secret History and Piranesi.
>>24959589is the point of it that there actually isn't an antimemetics division? it's all a big conspiracy created by people to build their own walls and shadow monsters to fight against? i would read it if that's the case, scp's biggest problem is that everything has to tie back to their massive canon, and every short story in order to not just be entry #3284 in a faceless list of numbers essentially has to boil down to a few random human experiences trapped in a dead end created by the lore.
>>24959589haven't read the new version. original web version had some fun bits early on but went downhill towards the end.ra was much better.
>>24968407>is the point of it that there actually isn't an antimemetics divisionIt's conceptual sci-fi about things that erase themselves from your memory and perception. It's called "There Is No Antimemetics Division" because people keep forgetting even that the division itself exists.I would read your idea though. Reminds me of The City & The City.>scp's biggest problem is that everything has to tie back to their massive canonIt uses the SCP framework but it doesn't tie into the canon. The new version (which I haven't read) actually has all the direct SCP references taken out for traditional publishing.
>>24959589You found this book on TikTok.
Specifically this translation, if you’ve read it.
Be sure to vote for it >>24951578
>>24962648That's all good thou, morality does not change based of a time period
>>24966321>PedophileYou are a feminist who worship Victorian morality. If so then all ancient Greeks and romans were pedos and all their material was pedophilia material. Outside of the hajnal line European marriage age was 11-13
>Pickthall-onlyistIt would be kufr to say it’s as good as the original text, but it’s very high up. Clear Quran is like the NIV for Islam.Saheeh Int is Najdi propaganda Muhammad Asad is very good writing, but unfortunately rationalist. Barely any difference between the rest.
>>24960437This is the same with how people don’t even understand where the values of America are based off, and what the groundwork really is of enlightenment and human rights. People often don’t know where things come from, and truths are just illusions we have forgotten are illusions. Myth that has become canonized after being poetically embellished.
