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THE ETERNAL SCHOPENHAUERIAN WISDOM

I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.
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>>24716983
This would be more helpful if you translated it into normal talk.
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>>24716983
>Self-subsistence pushed to the point of the one as a being-for-self is abstract, formal, and destroys itself.
You can think of reality as an interplay of unity (being in general) and plurality (various kinds of being). Neither of these exists in its own right, each is immediately the transition into the other. But many philosophies take unity and set it off on its own in its own world; religion also does this.
> It is the supreme, most stubborn error, which takes itself for the highest truth, manifesting in more concrete forms as abstract freedom, pure ego and, further, as Evil
As you can see unity can be determined as being different things - freedom or pure ego in Fichte, evil in Schelling's freedom essay and also in Schopenhauer who plagiarized Schelling in retarded form.
>It is that freedom which so misapprehends itself as to place its essence in this abstraction, and flatters itself that in thus being with itself it possesses itself in its purity.
Again freedom (or the Will, or substance, etc.) is being set off to one side from everything else in abstraction.
>More specifically, this self-subsistence is the error of regarding as negative that which is its own essence, and of adopting a negative attitude towards it.
In reality the many are the negative of the one, but they're also part of the one's own self and process as it were. Philosophies like Schopenhauer make being-for-itself into an abstraction that negates reality in just this way.
>Thus it is the negative attitude towards itself which, in seeking to possess its own being destroys it, and this its act is only the manifestation of the futility of this act.
Should be self-explanatory with what was said above.
>The reconciliation is the recognition that the object of this negative attitude is rather its own essence, and is only the letting go of the negativity of its being-for-self instead of holding fast to it.
Ditto
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>>24717072
>also in Schopenhauer who plagiarized Schelling in retarded form.
Youre supposed to defend SchopGod retard >>:(
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>>24717072
>As you can see unity can be determined as being different things - freedom or pure ego in Fichte, evil in Schelling's freedom essay and also in Schopenhauer who plagiarized Schelling in retarded form.
You're supposed to defend Fichte retard >>:(
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>>24717049
>good
lol. einstein was a hackfraud kike, he was "influenced" by many
>have to fundamentally be contrary to science or come from a place non within science, to truly advance science.
galileo shifted away from a less scientific, metaphysical view not toward it. People like tesla and schope aren't taken seriously in academia because modern academia is a joke, shrimple as

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>inb4: "t.ranny, troon/trooner/pooner, worthless moid/scrote kissless virgin incel loser, seething (((christcuck))), &c."
I'm sure what you have to say is just as helpful as whatever comes out of this retard's mouth, holy shit.
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>>24715419
404 Incoming troon
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>>24715658
I'm not a Jew let alone Israeli, what was your point?
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>>24716630
I'm not transsexual, much less a "trans-identified male" that Feminists like Rowling use all the time, which is basically just plain misandry with the inclusion of deluded freak who believe they are of the opposite sex.
>>24715928
>t."No, U!"
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>>24715419
I spit on Feminists
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>>24715476
did your mom molest you?
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>>24715931
Maas being outed as one would make me cum. Bust all over those tatas

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what are the some difficult books ever written?
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>>24716754
>what are the some difficult
Good morning saar
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>>24717019
good morning sir :)
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good morning everyone, in my case it was "The Castle" by Franz Kafka, one of the most difficult books to motivate myself to finish
I hope this helps
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>>24716754
Fichte's Foundation of the Entire Wissenschaftslehre.
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>>24717071
still has the last chapter to read

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What are your thoughts on this short story published in the recent issue of Harper’s Magazine? It’s a short read, less than five minutes.

https://harpers.org/archive/2025/09/girl-talk-weike-wang-story-sauna/

“Girl Talk” by Weike Wang
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>>24715021
Whitewashed Asian feminists are the worst creatures on Earth
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>>24716887
>he's never had a whitewashed asian feminist who was part of her college's asian women's club beg him to call her a chink while fucking
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is she like the diaspora Juanita who doesnt speak a lick of Spanish outside of a few words but fights for la raza?
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>>24716860
>>24716100
hot, would
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>>24715021
>by weinke wang
they don't name themselves ling ling and ding ding anymore, they've transcended to dick dick

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Notable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Richard Matheson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many more

Discuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
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>>24716332
>folk horror
memeshit buzzword
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>>24716283
Cool story, now do the other 50+ novels.
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>>24716343
folk horror is a subgenre of cosmic horror
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>>24716917
How?
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Don’t buy this guys book. I regret purchasing it myself. Just read the decline of the west if you want to understand the nature of the west.

This guy is a verminous subversive progressive liberal globalist elite shitlib that wears a mask of a non shitlib philosopher that he constantly lets slip. He gives decent takes about the nature of the west while at the same time conflating it with modernism and progressive liberal leftist managerialism while also making up subtle subversive lies about the wests nature like some late 20th century postmodernist. His passion for the west is entirely surface level. He makes it clear in his books that he doesn’t actually give a shit about by constantly regurgitating leftist propagandistic talking points that can be easily debunked and refuted with better takes. I suspected the book might be like that and my intuition was sadly right. I now understand why some people on this board hate him. Fuck this cunt.
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>>24717001
the nature of the west is being gay with your buddies
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>>24717010
Time to log off, Raj
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>>24717001
2017 was 8 years ago, pal

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>God invented and made the universe — like a man making a picture or composing a tune. A painter is not a picture, and he does not die if his picture is destroyed. You may say, "He's put a lot of himself into it," but you only mean that all its beauty and interest has come out of his head. His skill is not in the picture in the same way that it is in his head, or even in his hands.
but what’s the paint and canvas supposed to be?
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The canvas is nothingness/non-existence. A blank page.
The paint is the underlying substrate of the universe/reality or what it's all made of; energy or information, a divine substance, et cetera.
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>>24716829
>nothingness/non-existence
nonsense category
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>>24716858
this. there was no beginning imo
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does flux/chaos count as nothing or is it still 'something'
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Why is it absurd to posit nothingness as a concept and indeed a reality? Too simple, too obvious? The nothingness underlying all that is. The nothingness on which the buddhist ascetic meditates. The nothingness before God spoke the world into being. That which is not as opposed to that which is. And which it is now fashionable to recant as if it were a heresy.

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Assuming you were around in '86 when this was published, would you have taken in this poor girl?
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>>24715268
So, Honor Levy
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>>24716571
she would reappear 40 years later
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>>24716964
After your death, probably, to slander you endlessly.
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>>24715691
I was 4 that year. All I remember is preschool and having babysitters who liked Bon Jovi and watched Headbangers Ball. Got my first taste of extreme metal in 1992 seeing Napalm Death on TV. now I can't go a day without blast beats.
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>>24717059
bon jovi was probably still pretty new at that point. mid-80s i'm guessing was like madonna, prince, mj and george michael

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does /lit/ have an opinion on Johnathan Haidt? I remember him floating around the Sam Harris/Rogan circles a decade ago then vaguely recall falling off for being a junk science charlatan but I still see him pop up in mainstream interviews about cog-sci culture matters.
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>>24716765
He's utterly mindblowing if you're the type who thinks psychoanalysis is bullshit. If you think psychoanalysis is correct, he's repetitive and boring.
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great indicator someone is a midwit and I can totally disregard their opinion if they even think about johnathan haidt at all
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>>24716977
I don't know what you mean by that, can you elaborate?
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>>24717007
cognitive science as a field is just yelling "Freud is bullshit!" at the top of your lungs and then five years later publishing a paper where you stuck a bunch of 20 year olds in an MRI machine and showed them pictures of random shit that empirically verifies a psychoanalytic idea from 100+ years ago. In this case, it's
>bro you think you're motivated by reason bro
>but like bro that's like, stick with me here, not right bro
>actually bro like this chart shows that... bro... uuuughhh... bro my head hurts... ghhuhhuhhhhhughhhh... it shows... uhhhughuh... MY HEAD... UGHUGHUHHHHHHH... IT SHOWS YOU'RE REALLY MOTIVATED BY EMOTION BROghuhuhuhhhuughhughughmyheadhurtsssssssss
>heavy exhausted panting
>this is groundbreaking bro don't you get it bro nobody's said this before bro
like I said, completely revolutionary to people who think they're too clever to take psychoanalysis seriously
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>>24717031
I think both have their merits

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have you ever invented a word? zoomers recently invented chalant

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What even is Young Adult fiction?
If you’ve got a young guy doing wild acrobatics, slicing through the air with a sword, and launching an energy wave while he's at it, does that make it Young Adult?
And what exactly counts as adult fiction? Is it just the "boring" stuff, even if it’s written with beautiful prose and explores deep, complex themes that resonate with both young (aged 13 to 18 yo) and older (19 to 50s) readers?
Can adult fiction be fun or flashy? Can it be fantasy? Is “adult fantasy” even a thing?
Also… what are the best Young Adult fantasy series out there?
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>>24716924
a long time ago there used to be this ever so weird fucking concept. The child is too young to see or do thing X. Young Adult fantasy means that just about any parent would read it or thumb through it, and not complain it was inappropriate for a 10-14year old. No explicit sexual stuff. No weird stuff. This is pretty self explanatory, anon. You're just posting to post.
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>>24716935
Not really. A lot of anons here throw around “YA” as a derogatory label, as if it automatically means the writing or story is inferior.
But why should that be the case?
Just because a book doesn’t include explicit sex or graphic violence, does that really make it lesser?
Does the presence of gore or erotic content somehow elevate a book’s literary worth?
If YA fiction simply means stories that a parent wouldn’t object to their 10-14 year old reading, then that doesn’t inherently make it shallow or simplistic.
With a skilled enough writer, a YA book can be just as complex and memorable as any so-called “literary classic.”
So why dismiss a book just because it’s YA?
Sex and violence aren't prerequisites for great storytelling.
Also, that post wasn’t just rambling, it ended with a genuine question, asking for recommendations on quality Young Adult fantasy series.
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>>24717032
/lit/ pseuds look down on anything not featured on a top 100 books of all time list. It's not about the book, it's not about the genre, it's not about the content and it's not about the writing. Almost everyone on this board is most interested in looking intelligent and sophisticated, and all their efforts go into reading books that they think will make them look intelligent and sophisticated.

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Any dreams you guys had that was /litty/ themed? Here’s my that I had last night

> Had a dream about cormac McCarthy. I was watching a movie adaptation of his nonexistent novel, it was filmed like an old black and white 50’s film. Something about a fedora wearing vagabond in a city. the movie ends with a closing narration from the actor Fredric march. The camera panned down, he was on a sound stage of a alleyway caked with foamite snow. The video quality was a fuzzing vhs tape. I was then in front of Cormac McCarthy and some person next to him. Cormac was sitting behind this wooden table while the person was standing next to him. We were in this cabin, behind them I could see shelves with glass doors and felt chairs circling around a tv; the latter was in the corner of my eye, and outside looked to be noon. Cormac spoked to me about his novel and the movie adaptation I just watched. He might have gave me some life advice as well. In his hands was a leather notebook. He placed it down on the table and cracked it open while telling me about his editor’s thoughts on both works. He then looked down at the notebook and read aloud his editor’s exact words about the matter. Then I woke up
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>>24713814
Things are not synesthetic, everything is just a very strong impression but not impressionistic, I just get the impression, the effect. The best way I have been able to come up with describing it is i you were to zoom in on a painting to the point you can see nothing but brush strokes and color, the painting would be my life and the brush strokes and color would the dreams but it is not just the visual information I am zooming in on, it is the auditory and emotion of it as well, they are all magnified for me in my dreams, intensified to the point that is all there is.

But it is very difficult to explain, how do you zoom in on an emotion like contentment so you only feel one aspect of it? What is an aspect of contentment in that sense? Maybe the literal present, the feeling at a single moment too small to perceive extended for hours so it consumes you? That over simplifies since the emotion of the dream is far more dynamic and varied than that. I have never figured out a way to explain any of this.

Life like dreams have become fairly regular for me but also have a tendency to be almost hilariously banal, things like going grocery shopping and running into someone I know, the contrast from my normal dreams tends to make even the most banal dreams quite memorable. Perhaps the abstract dreams would be best described in terms of a normal dream, they are like the exact moment a dream becomes so intense that it wakes you up, the abstract dreams are like that exact moment stretched out for hours but I still experience the entire dream, often over and over and over each time doing things slightly different.
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>>24712910
The only /lit/ centred dream of late barely qualifies, but I had a dream that was loosely "about" Madame Bovary, as in it featured that name/title although don't recall ever having heard of the book before said dream. Although it is obviously a famous piece of literature. The dream was as follows: I was attending school in an old manor house in the countryside, my peers were various friends from throughout my life; some I have known since childhood, some from college, some from university. We were moving from a computer room to a lesson in another part of the building, when I found myself lost and alone. I had the sensation of at once being frozen to the spot, unable to move. An ethereal white cloud or smoke-like substance began to fill the room and I was filled with terror. Out of the ether a woman made of the cloud itself took the form of an early 19th century woman, dressed in a large dress with corsett and hoop skirt/crinoline. My fear was compounded upon seeing her and for some reason I was only able to shout the words "Madame Bovary!" In some kind of subconscious realisation of the identity of the spirit and seemingly the knowledge that this spirit and her name signalled something truly awful and terrifying. When I awoke I found myself taken by the vividity and odd features of the dream, so rushed to my PC (my phone was dead) and googled Madame Bovary to see if there was a woman with such a name that died in my area at some point in history. Instead I found only the book by Gustave Flaubert.
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>>24712910
What causes the huge enjoyment gap between telling about your dreams and listening to others talking about theirs? Is it the inherent unrelatability or what is it? No other subject seems to make people so covertly annoyed, and yet at the same time think that their example is exempt from the annoyance. I can vividly remember some youthful nights, the taste of beer in my mouth and an overwhelming smell of "fine I'll listen to your shitty dreams but only because i can't wait to tell you mine" in the air. It's really weird and uncomfortable and i try to derail it asap or at least after I've told my own wacky dream.
You could tell the greatest story ending with "anyhow that's the dream i had last night" and suddenly people wouldn't give two shits about it.
Am I onto something or just projecting?
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>>24716412
Oh you're 100% on to something. I have always thought this, and often encountered it; I think I have a slightly higher tolerance for others dreams and am often genuinely interested but part of me is still secretly waiting for my turn because mine is infinitely more crazy and unique and maybe even could only be the result of a deeply profound and profoundly deep mind at work. Me and my Mum would joke about this when I was young, not caring about the others dream but then launching into a passionate telling of their own dream when the other had finished.
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>>24712982
Hey, same here. I have these dreams roughly every three months. No sensory stimuli, no scenes to see, no incoherent narrative to follow, no touch. I would describe it as total darkness but even that is missin, just emptiness. And then theres one concept that fills up everything. Most often it is an emotion but it also has been a movement or a transition. And it is INTENSE. Unbearably intense, so much that I suspect that I turned off all sensory input on porpuse. Experiencing any miniscule amount more would... Actually I don't know what would happen. All I know is that I will never go that far

So, how do you become the Knight of Faith?
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>>24716930
First step would be reading Kierkegaard
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>>24716930
Believe that you believe even if you feel like you dont and then stop doubting that you believe until you believe sincerely
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>>24716930
Iirc you have to become a knight of infinite resignation first so read fear and trembling

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What periodicals do you subscribe to?

I use to subscribe to Tin House, back when that was still a thing. I miss looking forward to a new, physical thing I could read.
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>>24716252
No, I said good ones.
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>>24716818
Fuck off chud
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>Not a single good magazine recommended
Just accept it already, newspaper and magazines are dead and books will follow soon since we're heading towards a post-literate society
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>>24717030
>doesn't recommend a magazine
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>>24715238
At the moment, only First Things.

The most tragic figure of the 21st century
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>>24714423
Have any of you actually read his book?
His whole thesis is:
>Hegel has perfectly described history and we are still stuck at his stage of description
And
>Nietzsche identified the pathetic Last Man who languishes in this era.
Thats it. A couple graphs, historical anecdotes, and name dropping, but thats it.

The essay and book has been bastardized to fit the public discourse more closely, but none of it really goes against what this wanna be Hegel fanboy wrote.
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>>24716663
>the Person of Jesus Christ i
Kind of the whole problem with this isn't it? kek
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>>24714977
Please check out https://byzantinus.net/ some time, it's a textboard centered around the humanities and you two have an spirit that would very fitting for the site's purpose. It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
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>>24716741
>It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
who do you do this and who owns/runs it?


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