>I'm bored by normies>I'm bored by nature>I'm bored by videogames & internet content>I'm bored by sex & porn>I'm bored by consumerism>I'm excited for creating things and studying but then I'm forced to stop and do something I'm bored because of money or lonelinessWhat can I read to help with this? It's ruining my life
>>24595579I'm bored even more by internet weirdos than normies btw
>>24595579this is everyone who wakes up don't worry
>>24595579I think you should think about what you really do love and make that the focus of your life, creation /worship of such. want to get married?
>>24595579Ayo what the fuck is it with this blogposting? nigga boo hoo go read a book or something. Matter'o'fact, ask for recommendations for books on this thread, I'd suggest Sissy-Hypno de-converter literature (as you seem to have a problem) or you could go for the good ol' Evola rec thread, maybe go a little spicy with a classic Guenon one, or a favorite of many: The Nietzsche rec thread. I'd recommend the trifecta thread, Heidegger, Aristotle and Nietzsche. Your call, OP-fagAny readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?Any readers?>Any readers?
>>24595758want to get married? blogposting is lit though IMHO and thats all the sorrows of young werther is
>>24595579Hit the meditation mat lil nigga
>>24595579it doesn't actually bore you, you want it to bore you because it'd mean bad things if it didn't and so you inhibit/repress your non-boredom>>24595734yeah>>24595758you sound erpable
>>24595788>it'd mean bad things if it didn'tto be more precise, thinking it'd say bad things about yourself to yourselfsolution: you are what you are and you can have your cake and eat it too, don't be a chud>>24595764and yes. meditate, find something therapeutic
>>24595579You have depression.
>>24595788ill erp with you but im not that anon
>>24595760OP greentexting is not comparable to Goethe (at least not yet, give it 50 more years until the great Greentext novel comes out) this is more of a diary of a wimpy fag style of situation plus the Write what's on your mind thread was made for diary posting so write write write, I once saw a beautiful thread that posed as a Haiku thread but was just a greentext thread that experimented with the limits between a greentext and a Haiku, it was lovely I even went and found itAny writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?Any writers?>Any writers?
>>24595801hehei cant rn and am a noob at it anyway ;(are you >>24595734>>24595808you are one interesting poster who evidently makes idiosyncracies his prerrogative
>>24595808>Be me>see anon with cute pictures while complaining about OP (who does seem like a bit of a pooper)>want to marry (anon) (the physical can be fixed if its a problem, tech is getting good these days>decide to write a haiku>a mental sister>i really want to kiss her>a writer? I wish...
>>24595814no, i am not, but such things are about fun and passion : )
>>24595824that much is for certaintellyahwat, do you have shitcord or something, maybe we can when im free>>24595817niceoh OP, btw, I've had those bouts of extreme indifference as well. just keep moving, and keep your eyes open, something WILL snag you
>>24595836uhm uh I post very often and worried my name will get tossed around, maybe an email or something else you wouldn't be too embarrassed to share?
>>24595758>>24595808Your life is sadder than mine (OP)... I don't want advice from you...>>24595743Yes I'm working towards this but everything gets in the way, also why the marriage proposal?>>24595734>>24595764I've meditated and done all that before, doesn't really do anything other than the placebo and identity>>24595788>it doesn't actually bore you, you want it to bore you because it'd mean bad things if it didn't and so you inhibit/repress your non-boredomIn what way? I have an above-average normie life and it still feels bad overall. There's people richer and more gifted than me that probably feel even worse. The sad rich kid trope is very visible>>24595798Are people really excited about what they do daily? Are people who fill spreadsheets at work and have some fat asian gf really happy? I have that and sometimes I skip work to spend all day in bed
>>24595836>>24595841stop doing faggot things, it only leads to dismay
>>24595842marriage proposal because an affinity of soul is the hardest part to find in someone you want in the most personal of circles. We probably wouldn't actually get along that well, such is rare, but if you don't look or attempt where such a fancy strikes, rarities slip by probably. worst thing that could happen is mockery, probably, or a huge waste of time and broken trust and whatnot, but such is any relationship. I think people should be selective to not devalue such connections but searching with taste reserving the vulgarity for later is a compromise i have found myself in the mood for. This paragraph will be aversive or attractive and such will fulfill its purpose
>>24595842Your thread is shit anyways, OP, and people are trying to have sex in it yabettta watch out fo' that! anyhow, Heidegger calls me, did you know one can gain deep exposure to what Nietzsche called the 'will' via the detailed (and handheld with Heidegger) reading of Aristotle? Shit's cash, AND the rethorics is his most ontological book. Anyhow, keep being a boring faggot, OPAny deadends?>any deadendsAny deadends?>any deadendsAny deadends?>any deadendsAny deadends?>any deadendsAny deadends?>any deadendsAny deadends?>any deadendsAny deadends?>any deadends
>>24595842>Are people who fill spreadsheets at work and have some fat asian gf really happy? >I have an above-average normie life and it still feels bad overall.ah so the issue might be is you're not being quite honest with what attracts you - and/or possibly not following through on what does>>24595841okay https://litter.catbox.moe/jpxtrxjmmo85c5xp.txt as i said im busy so just send me a mail and ill come back to it>>24595848...speaking from experience?>>24595852ah, the ability to say simple things in contrived ways
>>24595854be nice. nothing wrong with the pursuit of romance either.what about your will makes you dislike such?
>>24595854You're the proof that shit doesn't work, I don't wanna be like you
>>24595856>...speaking from experience?Literally yes>ah so the issue might be is you're not being quite honest with what attracts you - and/or possibly not following through on what doesYeah maybe these specific desires arent really mine but from the "other" reinforced throughout my childhood and life... What I really want is probably impossible nowadays though
>>24595854your "will" lead u to on 4chan b bitching in ur moms house and masturbate to drawings bc u cant get a girl?
>>24595899>Literally yesi can see how it could lead to dismay as collateral with a life lived as not of one's own>>24595899>Yeah maybe these specific desires arent really mine but from the "other" reinforced throughout my childhood and life...hence the meditation/therapeutic practice suggestion, they can help you discern in general>What I really want is probably impossible nowadays thoughlike what? this seems like a core tension for you
>>24595912It is not a property of the world, that being ourselves is entirely possible, or that being true to oneself is possible while maintaining material stability and health. to have our cake and eat it too, until such can happen i think there will be sadness
>>24595915but why. what is the resistance here
>>24595924I am loyal to myself, im someone else. Sorry fren. Or i try to be. As for why, if your nature is such that gravity offends you, or you like being in space, such things are difficult to achieve in a healthy/clear way. Social view affects material ends. I could use examples, I suppose. I myself have faced consequences for "being who I am". Nonetheless, I stand by my side.
>>24595935>if your nature is such that gravity offends you, or you like being in space, guilty as charged>such things are difficult to achieve in a healthy/clear way. >I myself have faced consequences for "being who I am".indeed, there lies the careful balancing act, and yet it does not require as much care as one might think. conscientiousness does not have toimply its other associated, pesky qualities. it can and does come naturally, rather.
>>24595912You should be a therapist, anonthe poster >>24595915 is NTA but sums it up>hence the meditation/therapeutic practice suggestion, they can help you discern in generalWhere do you start? Because no one I met that does meditation or therapy seems happy or stable. And I was less when I did it. But I'll try again carefully if you can recommend some quality material>like what? this seems like a core tension for youBills, health, having to care for people, then just disliking the societal alienation and zeitgeist of the people around me, among more violent things. Generally things outside of my control that can only be "cured" if I become a bum or psycho that leaves my girlfriend to do LSD and fuck dozens of hippie girls while shooting indie movies like a boomer in the 60s
>>24595946I think the amount of care it requires differs from person to person. Every decision and word I make is difficult to make prudently. Even my words here are a sacrifice to potential data mining, to potentially be used against me. The level of dedication you give to anything, how (you) feel, what (you) think is right, i don't think its so easy for everyone, to be loyal to themselves.
>>24595946Therapistanon, what's your view on >>24595949? It looks like a type of repressing cynical behavior to act morally or not get myself in danger? Why does that bring tension and quiet pain? Is this what those angry gen X guys who beat tf out their wife feel?
>>24595961therapists are rapists of good sense dont insult repression is a tool and also an outdated pyschological term for the cessation of semiotic nature
>>24595579If you are bored so much then perhaps what you need to do, is nothing. No really, do not create, do not consume anything. Just take a long shower. Or look at the sky, the stars, nature (outside, not a picture on a computer) and think. Do not look at your phone, do not read, do not talk to anyone; actually be alone. Just think, about nothing, about everything, about others, about yourself, about time, about real events and abstract concepts. And keep doing that until you are no longer bored by things you said you were bored by.
>>24595975I already did all that and it makes me feel worse
>>24595975spent some time in a cell and nothing isn't as encouraging as exposure to what you love so you can want more of it
>>24595966Tomato, tomato. What's your take on that anyways?
>>24595986you wrote the same word twice, but yet I heard two different pronunciations. I like puns and such statements where you read in beyond the literal because it is a sign towards the nature of the language game. I am going to ___ you, lovingly, or I might ____ you, brutally. I think its something that people should think about more.
>>24595842>I've meditated and done all that beforeDefine "all that." It's more than the cushion. For just one example, if you spent that era of your life lying no matter how small, gossiping, or even just calling anons faggots, you weren't actually on the path that meditation is supposed to help with.
>>24595961>therapistanonhahaha please, you give me too much credit ^^">>24595966i take therapy to mean something far more general than its lame institutionalized state>the cessation of semiotic naturewhatever therapy does that misses the point, because among other things, it's supposed to help you integrate and find paper tigers>>24595949>You should be a therapist, anoni've considered it>And I was less when I did it. it does depend on what you were doing, but keep in mind that it can get worse before it gets better, you must bring forth the tension to dissolve it after all>if I become a bum or psycho that leaves my girlfriend to do LSD and fuck dozens of hippie girls while shooting indie movies like a boomer in the 60swait, but my question was "what do you really want that you think is impossible nowadays". this sounds like an overcompensatory reaction. >Where do you start?considering the situation, try something more physical, like somatics and internal martial arts or some shit. if you're interested i'll give references>>24595953look i've been this paranoid before too. being vulnerable isn't easy but you clearly crave it in a way. so try it a little sometimes>>24595961right on, someone who's annoyed at their conscientiousness because they think they must castrate themselves to uphold it. a latent case of crime of passionsorry if this isn't helpful or as assertive as i'd like to, i'm a bit busy
>>24596004i do find that being vulnerable gets easier though. those people who seem like forces of nature in this sense really inspire me. more than we are willing to admit (let alone act on), many of us do want a piece of the spontaneous pie.
>>24596004I obviously want to be vulnerable anon. I have done so and been punished. Its called vulnerability for a reason. I am loyal to who I am, and do my best to do so, there is no fear of myself and what i am from me. Its the world that fears.
>>24596032what kind of thing were you opening up on and what was your punishment
>>24596040maybe if we talk later you can find out. if you mean only speech, speech leads to action often, and I also desire action.
>>24596044>maybe if we talk later you can find out. okay. did you catch my email from earlier?>if you mean only speech, i'm not sure what you did and/or said at all, and don't want to assume, so that is precisely why i asked>speech leads to action often, though i'll have a guess here: you say it as if you did that more than you consider appropriate (by what standard?)>and I also desire action.of course!
>>24596071I acted according to what I thought was right. What I still believe to be so. What was inappropriate was not considering others contempt. I sent an email, but did not receive one. My defensiveness is stemmed from what i see as a misunderstanding of my moral values. Betrayal of self, if you aren't going to love yourself for who you are, if you do not love yourself, then there is no reason to take affront against oneself. I am in under no circumstance advocating changing who you are for the sake of anything but your own love.
>>24595579Take some drugs, either recreational or psychiatric, depending on how self-destructive you're feeling
>>24596089>I sent an email, but did not receive one.i can't log in right now so that'll be in like five hours or something>I am in under no circumstance advocating changing who you are for the sake of anything but your own love."your own love" as in self-love?honestly, i'm having trouble parsing thoughts right now and i can be more careful when i can actually sit down so maybe it's better if we leave this for later if you wishthat being said, my impression here is that you might be constantly checking against yourself whether you are being genuine or not or if others are
>>24596125It is very important to me to be genuine to myself, and would like others to be genuine as well as long as it doesn't create an ugly world. As such, I think its important to let others speak for themselves, and to be sure of only our own experience.
>>24596129>>24596125and "your own love" can be self-love, or anything else. It's all self-love in the end, for I love what makes me happy for it's own existence. This can get existential if you would like, but it boils down to simply this>one did not choose to be born into this world>one should not be ashamed over what one is, and what one loves
>>>/adv/
>>24595579You need anti-depressants.