Should I get the Oxford edition? I saw posted on here that The Book of Mormon is considered unreadable; what is the best way to get into this classic text/sacred volume?
If you get this version it explains the whole origin thingy
>>24655297>The Book of Mormon isA frican bibleNice.
Are you on /his/?>>>/his/17937805
This thesis has yet to be refuted
>>24655297>Timbuktu>Chad>Beta Israel: Where the Book of Mormon took place
Are these the real buried classic here?
>>24655333What translation of the Qur'an do you recomend?
>>24655294>Oxford editionIs that the same as this one?
>>24655371Koran is separate from the Book of Mormon
We just had this thread
>>24655395>black sheepMetal.
>Great American Novel>should be underrated at its time>should be critically re-evaluated and endure from that
>>24655294>classichttps://www.amazon.com/Book-Mormon-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143105531?sr=8-1
>>24655371>>24655283
>Another BoM Astroturfing thrheadISHYGDDT
>>24655465
>>24655471>Book of MormonIt's not real
>>24655476>It is.
>>24655436>by joseph Smith: Author and Proprietor
>performing miracles on /lit/ISHYGDT
>>24655333It's available in Doctrine and Covenants.
>>24655471like
>>24655294Get the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith and read all of it, and read at least the first of the Lectures on Faith. Neither is LDS canon but both are very illuminating. Then read the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, Pearl of Great Price. BoM is most interesting when it is explaining doctrine or taking a philosophical stance. But D&C and PoG are more condensed doctrine and philosophy, and so they (plus LoF and TPJS) are where you go for the deep stuff. In Paul's terms, the BoM is the milk. The meat is everything else. For more, you may want to research into the LDS revelations which haven't been added to the D&C yet. These are mainly revelations to Joseph Smith and John Taylor, plus a few to Wilford Woodruff. They're very interesting doctrinally. Lastly, supplement your study of the scriptures with the LDS edition of their scriptures with the footnotes (very good cross-referencing), and use resources like Biblical interlinears, Biblical commentaries, alternative Biblical translations, Strong's Concordance, and what theologians and secular historians both say about the Bible. For the rest of the LDS scriptures you can also research commentaries. Also not a bad idea to research into the ante-Nicene Church Fathers, there's surprising parallels with Mormon theology there. You can often find a lot of interesting Mormon speculation and research done on online spaces like the FAIR wiki and various Mormon blogosphere sites, in case you don't have access to commentaries in print. Sites like biblehub have integrated access to Strong's, multiple historical commentaries, interlinears, and alternative translations. Use everything you can find and master Mormon theology.
>BoM is milkBoM is a Geode you have to crack to get to the gems
>>24655311>off topic spamMOOOOOOOODS
Getting it now just for the meme:
>>24655615That's not a good enough reason to buy a book
>>24655562>LecturesWas that by Joseph Smith or a scribe?>TeachingsKF should be canon, at least the part where he says he is receiving words direct from God
>>24655562>the BoM is the milk The meat is everything elseBook of Mormon is everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHXLMleC8HI
>>24655617no fun allowed: meme police
>>24655562I have mine right here. It has the King Follet discourse, and the letter from Liberty Jail that was abridged for D&C 121, 122, and 123. Both are essential.I am curious about what of Joseph Smith hasn't been canonized. Is there a resource that contains them all?
>>24655776I want that for my bookshelf.
Get a load of this loser >>24655777
this is good discourse ITT. I hope we can continue.
>>24655554Get that Satan spam out of here.
>>24655562>AI slopdidnt read
>>24655433To what extent is this true?
>99% fillerLet me guess. The 1% is gold?
>>24655304 Unfortunately /his/ had a lot harder time receiving this I am glad /lit/ is so open.
>>24655615Joelden plates
>>24655300>Africacould it be?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HldyUz5FR_MThread theme:
>>24655893What the hell is that?
>>24655788FUCK OFFFF.
>>24655915no.
>>24655554>tares of satanMore like
>>24655471?????St.t Augustine reference?
>>24655935It's sod.
/lit/ should be a Mormon board
>>24655969/pol/ should be.
>>24655562>>24655433Can I have an explanation that isn't just babble?
>>24655412>$80IS there a less expensive option?
Someone keeps leaving copies in the "Free Library" near me and I keep taking them. I have three now. What should I do with them?
>>24656032My porch is not a free library satan
>>24655398Is it?
>>24656032You can just read the same book through again—You don't need a new one just to read the same material.
>>24655915Not going to happen.
>>24655617>>24655615>buy You guys know that the book is not only free but it will also be delivered for free to your house almost immediatly by two caucasic twinks, don't you?
>>24656177>causticThere is no need to be so crude.
You are, without a shadow of a doubt, the single worst missionary I have ever seen. No concept, no nuance, no guile, no skill in eloquence or humour. You are doing your faith a legitimate disservice by 'championing' it.
>>24656181>no skill1v1 ?
>>24656181https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfVbscfwMgk
>>24656181Only winners, not losers, is who I appeal to. I accept your concession.
>>24655471Qué?
>>24655297Mormon posteristhatyou?
>>24656305Yes.
>>24656181>No concept, no nuance, no guile, no skill in eloquence or humourGuile? Literally the worst trait for any kind of missionary to have
>>24656387Missionary work is psychic rape. Don't be naive. You are the unwilling puppet of the psychological virus you call a faith. It uses you to replicate itself in others. Like lichen, like nationhood, like all tribes. Your only hope is find those with weak immune systems. I know your secret. I know your heart is empty.
>>24656395You lose access to God when you condemn all who work in his name, and not only those evil-doers
>>24655297 (OP)Extremely based and redpilled. Well done, OP.
ENTERhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%201&version=HWP
Mormonism is just recoded Freemasonry.
Mormonism is just American Islam.
>>24656395it's actually just imperialism>we will help starving and suffering people>go to an area where nobody is starving>meddle around and ruin efforts already made by plenty of orgs>spread american interests where they're not wanted then go back to utah and yap about how you helped the poors
William Miller's predictions from Daniel line up exact enough with Joseph Smith.
>>24655874How is what I wrote AI slop? Are you anons so AI-brainrotted you can't tell AI apart from effortposts? Why do I even bother with this site.>>24655978Not with that attitude. If that's babble for you, no explanation I can give will be less babble to you. You're on your own.>>24655776STPJS is great, has cross-reference footnotes, really makes reading TPJS even more informed.>I am curious about what of Joseph Smith hasn't been canonized. Is there a resource that contains them all?Kind of? The entire Joseph Smith Papers project (many, many volumes) has basically everything he wrote and other things of historical significance related to him. You can use their website to find some revelations not in the D&C, but it won't have easy to read formatting. There's this Fundamentalist Mormon who collected a lot of the unpublished revelations in a book called "Unpublished Revelations, Vol. 1" that I saw sold at the BYU bookstore (!). The revelations included are also in the JSP volumes that came later, so this guy was legit the whole time. It includes other revelations (and sermons of Collier's picking) from Brigham Young up to Wilford Woodruff pre-1890 Manifesto. But he also has these long asides where he speculates about banker Jews and Masons running the world, I'm not a fan of that (although I know 4chan's usual anons will love that /x/-tier stuff...whatever). Plus he's heterodox (Fundamentalist). So the collection has a conspiratorial/heretical bent. But the revelations themselves are accurate. There's probably other collections of the unpublished revelations, but you would need to search. Good luck anon.>>24655660There's some really sublime stuff under the surface. It's milk for the initiate for sure though. The meat under the surface comes through after reading the other LDS stuff. I think more people should study Alma 32 and Ether 4 in close detail. But see, that makes most sense after reading TPJS and D&C and the New Testament really really closely.
>>24656874Opinion on Ethiopian origin theory?
>>24656874Is it Joseph Smith's Uncanonized Revelations Edited By Stephen O. Smoot and Brian C. Passantino?
>>24656874>How is what I wrote AI slop?it's basically a snarl word at this pointon this board it's pretty exceptionally obvious when things are AI and it's almost certainly way rarer than it is on other boards (ie /pol) or websites like r*ddit
>>24657958I use it to show respect to effortposts
>>24656883>It's really impressive how coincidentally Fichtean, how Feuerbachian, how Kierkegaardian, Joseph Smith is, when you look deep into him. Very Emersonian, though they were contemporaries. Some of Joseph Smith's Emersonian work was written before Emerson's main work by a few years though.American national ethic was just being born onto the world
>>24657934I have the Fred Collier book, he's the fundamentalist.>>24657857I don't think the Book of Mormon took place in Ethiopia myself, but it's creative to think it did. I can see how one can make it fit.>>24657988I posted the post you're quoting in the other thread.
>>24658267>I don't think the Book of Mormon took place in Ethiopia myself
Mormonism is satanic/thread
>>24658551>Catholic garbeldygookYour post is false.
>>24655980>>24655980>>24655980>>24655980Holy Get
>>24658555checked
>>24657857Gibberish. Book of Mormon clearly happened in Antarctica and was written by Nazi Time Travelling Aliens. Everyone knows niggers cant read
>>24659217Except the Nephites did not become black like the Lamanites did by mixing with the natives.
>>24659279they became black because they were cursed by God
>>24659300>curseIt was more a curse to be set out into the gentile race nearby and confounded from their moral brethren, it isn't a specific condemnation of black people.
>>24655300These are the same poster.
>>24659361?
>>24659361No those are real people.
>>24658555Catholicism is true.
>>24655294Is this of literary merit like the Bible and Quran or is it fanfic tier
>>24661489>Quranmore like>>24655333
>>24661489>literary meritHow can something false be any good? And if it is not the word of God it is false.
>>24661489It's horrible. All the best turns of phrase are copy-and-pasted from the KJV. Whenever Joseph Smith was rambling from his own stream-of-conscience it becomes unbearably repetitive. The most glaring absence from the Book of Mormon is any variety in genre. Within the true canon of Sacred Scripture, there is a pleasant variety of genre from history to devotional prayers to prophecy. The Book of Mormon does not have a Job. It doesn't have a Romans. It doesn't have an Exodus. It doesn't have the gravity of the Psalms or the pessimism of Ecclesiastes. When Jesus shows up, he (lowercase because Joseph Smith's version doesn't deserve respect) just repeats everything He truly said on earth. The drama and angst of Israel waiting for a Messiah? Gone. In the Book of Mormon, everyone knows Jesus is coming. They call themselves Christian before he even comes. The tone of the Book of Mormon equivalent of the Old Testament is more like St. Paul in English than anything remotely Old Testament. Of course, the true tone of books written throughout many centuries in North/South America B.C. would be very alien compared to the Old Testament texts. The only explanation for otherwise intelligent people remaining Mormon is that they have a mental block on analyzing the Book of Mormon seriously. It is so clearly fraudulent that it makes the Gnostic Gospels appear inspired.
>>24661537>All the bestI wish you well as good, but I think you should totally read the book all the way through before casting judgment like you have some authority on the matter. It is especially useful as a standard text for learning a language (when the Holy Ghost opens that up to you) because you can just read it aloud for 300 pages and nothing is too essential to worry about missing because Jesus doesn't give his discourse until Nephi (originally not called 3 Nephi).
>>24655395>>24655410??
>>24655311Signal boost to share awareness
>>24661266>>24661146It is.
>>24661668youtube.com/watch?v=6cwVjgWy3gc
>>24658555The Holy Ghost himself confirms with these digits. Call your local missionaries and accept their invites to go to church on Sunday. The truth has been witnessed in this thread.
>>24655294Just steal one from your hotel.
>>24661537Lmao you haven’t read the Book of Mormon. The Nephite authors were aware of the existence of the Pentateuch and didn’t include any analogs for that reason. Their writings were intentionally aimed at being novel and spiritual, and even then you have genre distinctions like prophesying, psalm-esque, and historical accounts.
>>24662341Bwaha! The Hiby Jiby doth declare unto you my rigteous plebians that I the Lord doth earneth submission via my check'ems
Mormon Kryptonite:>Greek psalter>Salamander letter>CES letter>SEC release 96951>Swedish Rescue>blood tokens>oath of vengeance>second anointing>Jupiter talisman>"dare to be a Mormon" / "a victory for Satan">new names/temple names are given based on the day of the year>Kolob>early patriarchal blessings>Book of Abraham "translations" (so bad the official story had to change twice)>Gospel Topics essays>Adam-God theory>Sun dwellers>Joseph's destroying angel>court statements of Smith's plural wives
>>24662477"Krypton" is a planet in Superman"Kolob" is a planet in MormonismThe Book of Abraham is unfinished (translation) and does indeed require accomplishment via an actual irl prophet to be justified.
>>24661474So is the Book of Abraham
>>24662341Confirm that you know the Book of Mormon is true?>>24655311>>24655297
>>24656186lel
>>24662477>CES letterr/exmormon core
>>24662477>didn't happen—guy had common sense not to fall for an obvious fraud "le mystery book" somehow in print?>doesn't disprove original movement>but it's from Africa>doesn't disprove original movement>irrelevant>Freemasonry>reasonable>who cares>?>who cares>a fair point but not "Kryptonite">a word>I don't see a problem>"official story" is obfuscation via hand of man God allows like the book being from Africa>Gospel Topics on Abraham refutes criticisms against Abraham scribe work vs. sacred scripture translation>God breathed his spirit of life into Adam and also Holy Ghost>idk; this doesn't refute the base claims of the scriptures>angels on behalf of God do ensure the word of God is kept>Joseph Smith only had children by one wife
>>24664287>Testimony of the Three Witnesses>Testimony of the Eight Witnesses>Testimony of Joseph Smith>Testimony of the CES letter
>>24655412>Still stuck here on this planet earth>20th century + 1GDI
>>24664638https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-m/1?lang=eng
>>24662477>CES LetterWith how many times I have heard this letter thrown around with regard to members leaving the church, I thought it would be some rock-solid anti-Mormon literature. I read it last night because of your post and was immensely disappointed. In my estimation the entire work to basically boils down to two core arguments, being archeological/historical evidence and “If Mormon church good, then why bad?” To combat the first point, archeology has fought a losing battle against Mormonism since the beginning, assuming the Americas are the setting for the Book of Mormon. First archeological deboonks were based on the claims that the hebrews never recorded on metal plates, and that Egyptian hieroglyphs had never been transliterated. Both of these claims were later shown to be false with new discoveries. Mind, these claims are not the only two that have outpaced archaeological scrutiny, just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Secondly, whoever wrote the CES letter has laughably a poor understanding of Mormonism. Multiple CES arguments are iterations of “How come if X was supposed to be a prophet he did/didn’t do Y?” Mormonism does not believe in leadership infallibility. Brigham Young’s headcanon does not mean the church is not led by God. Joseph Smith having connections to masonry and esotericism does not mean he wasn’t a prophet. Another poignant example of this is the account of Heber C Kimball being asked to wed his daughter to Joseph Smith. The letter mentions that Kimball went without food or water for three days, seeking a confirmation from the Lord. The author then turns around and asks why Kimball was so troubled as to turn away from food. To the untrained eye that might be a valid question, but to anyone who has ever been familiar with Mormonism, we call that fasting. Mormons often refrain from food or water and turn to God to seek answers to tough spiritual questions like “Can I trust the guy who is asking me to give him my daughter”, but the author knows so little about the process that he/she mistakes fasting for starving due to emotional turmoil. I could go on, but I think I’ve rambled enough for one post. Thanks for listening.
>>24661266People like you should use a tripcode.
>>24654626>It's a giant turdSame goes for.
Mormons, among other spiritual degenerates, will be executed in the coming war.
>>24662759Aye
>>24665831>If the people let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion with the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood…from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a 2nd Muhammad, whose motto in treating for peace was: The Al-Qur’an or the sword. So shall it be with us — Joseph Smith or the sword!
>>24662178Schizo song.
>>24655294This one? It's probably based, but it probably also says the Book of Mormon is from America.>>24655395I don't know about that.
>>24655294>unreadableYep. That's why the good stuff is hidden in it.
>>24662354It's free.https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/bofm-title?lang=eng
>>24656618see>>24665005>>24665011>>24665640
>>24655436>penguin>>24655465It's not astroturfing if its true
From the classic thread -> What makes this good?
>>24655403link??
>>24667177It is the word of God.He inspired it. He let it be sealed for so many generations as it took for the world to grow to be ready for its realities.
>>24655294Mormonism is just islam for whyte pipo
>>24669243That's why >>24655333 is like the Qur'an.>>24668551>sealedSort of like how the Qur'an is sealed behind a veil of unbelief (surah 2)
>>24655294so, this is what you atheists are trying now to fool people?
>>24670460I would say, if we were pretending, we would be disingenuous, and refutable.
haiii!! just wanted to say that mormonism is the work of satan ;3
>>24670536Repent
>>24655893Unironic cancer.
