Um guys what the fuck did I just read?
>>24685497I don't know, i haven't read it
>>24685624You better get to it then, if you want to understand the modern world
>>24685497A fantastic work on the plethora of christian philosophy that however should have left the buddhism, hinduism and modernists out.I read this the first time on a island sailing trip in the aegean with a friend who wanted to originally become an orthodox monk. If he had been born maybe just 100, certainly 200 years earlier he would have never left Greece in his life. It was fantastic asking him about all these different heretically Christian sects and get a 10 minute unexpected explanation of them.
>>24685682I think you need a well edited edition to get all the references
>>24685785What references did you need footnotes for?
>>24685497Esoteric garbage.
>>24686193>implying you know all the pre Nicean Council christian sects
The ending is very dostojevskian.
>>24686193Everything basically. He named 50 different Christian sect leaders, heretics and martyrs alone I didn’t know. Also all the foreign ancient gods among others.
>>24686241How so?
>>24686233Are the details important? Which details?>>24686252What do these details bring with them? Did Flaubert write this for a general audience or Doctors of the Church? The edition pic in the OP has a glossary for all the names. Was this sufficient? >>24686209What's esoteric about it?
>>24686254>...and then he remembered he was a good Christian and Christ appeared (smiling) and all was good.>>24686273>Are the details important? Which details?yes, the plot makes no sense if you dont know who the characters are that are speaking to Anthony.>which detailsall of them!
>>24686273All of those names stand for something, if I don’t know what they stand for, I won’t understand why Flaubert named them. I didn’t read the edition in OP, just an example pic, mine didn’t have a glossary sadly.
>>24686286But Christ appeared in matter, I found the afterword by Foucault interesting. It’s not clear whether he started praying because he found peace in Christ or whether it would be the start of the temptations once again.
>>24686286>>24686292>all of them!So my understanding without precise knowledge of what each martyr died for—except that they were martyred for heresies—my understanding is incorrect? I'm certain, unless you have evidence otherwise, that it's sufficient to Flaubert's intention to know that martyrism isn't proof of a religion, whichever religion it is on behalf. That's why they're presented to Anthony. No??
>>24686316You won’t even know they’re martyrs or heretics without background info, they’re just random names to you
>>24686316just read the wikipedia article or anything. You are talking completely out of your ass. We are not your google or Chatgpt.
>>24686325So was the Divine Comedy a bunch of names...and they didn't add exposition to the story much like Saint Anthony
>>24686325>You won’t even know they’re martyrs or heretics without background infoYou didn't read the book. Flat out. It's completely explicit lol. Open your copy. "Argument" lays out the overview. Then part IV is completely explicit. I'm no longer clear on your stance. >>24686326See above. I'm confused as to why anyone who read it would be gatekeeping when at least OP's edition, with the Argument and a translation that leaves nothing unclear, unless you're just sparring and practicing posing? You're not even passing for midwits. You can read the book cover to cover in one sitting, so why pretend? I don't get it.
>>24686330You know nothing about Dante's Divine Comedy either it seems. His work was immediately commentated upon by contemporaries who knew him and gave direct insights. Large reason why the Divine Comedy (it also only got its name "divine" via commentator ^_^) is so famous is precisely because of the commentary is an essential part of it.
>In September 1849, Flaubert completed the first version of a novel,The Temptation of Saint Anthony. He read the novel aloud toLouis BouilhetandMaxime Du Campover the course of four days, not allowing them to interrupt or give any opinions. At the end of the reading, his friends told him to throw the manuscript in the fire, suggesting instead that he focus on day-to-day life rather than fantastic subjects.What a fucking lad and this is after plowing a pockmarked Arab twink people used to fucking live
Some really stupid people itt!
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>>24686345But the commentary is so blatant and heavy handed. That's not what sparked my interest anyhow. Too many online ghouls and goblins decrying God every which way for me to care out of context. Thanks for clarifying but I've only read Inferno
>>24686360Have you ever considered reading western literary classics (and I mean real classics, so nothing American or generally 20th century) without any prejudice at all; like literally no prejudice?YOU = idiotHistorical Book = the world
>>24686374I had started with the Greeks but I just prefer post modern philosophy. Stories should be conveyed a multitude of times, not just in specific contexts.
>>24686383yep, retard. self-admitted retard even.
>>24686398Considering I don't have to meet your world view, I could care less. Try getting people to care about your specifics.
>>24686405nope, don't care to. Much prefer you kill yourself now rather than a few years down the line though.